Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 So does the majority of the soy sauce in Japan or China have wheat in their restaurants too or is it just an american japanese restaurant thing to find it like this? Karen pdw Monday, March 23, 2009 11:43 PM Re: newbie to group I was hoping that someone else would weigh in on the soy issue. I have researched both sides of the soy issue. I found that the negative stuff tends to come from two or three sources, all of them related, who are funded by the meat and dairy industry. Their studies are not unbiased. In order to look more official, they use each other as references, but they are all related. Soy products have been used in Asian cultures for centuries. Those cultures typically have very low rates of cancer and other western diseases. So chances are that if you model your diet after those cultures - plant based diet, with soy used in small amounts, " whole " soy products, mostly in fermented forms, you do not need to worry about the hysterical claims of the meat and dairy industries. There is a big difference between eating the highly processed commercial soy products (meals based around veggie burgers and faux meats, high-sugar soy milk, etc.) and traditional tofu, tempeh, edamame, etc. Pam Pam On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM, uwalburn <uwalburn wrote: > hello all and thank you for allowing me in this group. I am a recovering > vegan trying to find ways to compass our menu around our food allergies. I > was a vegetarian for 5 yrs followed by 5 yrs as vegan. i fell off the wagon > druing the pregnancies of my 3 and 1 yr old. i tned to fall victim to bacon > sometimes. i am vegan for ethical and health reasons and my sometimes > failures mean i'm human. in addition to wheat and gluten , my daughters and > i are also allergic to citrus, strawberry, raw tomatoe and apple based > vinegars. so recipes are hard. i use to loave plenty of soy products until i > read to much about the soy story and currently not sure if i want my girls > consuming it. i am trying to find a balance. i really miss tofu and and > other soy items. if anyone can give some advice about this i would > appreciate it. i know using soy would make it very easy for us to maintain a > vegan diet with out only it rice,potatoe dishes. > thank you, > unita w..birth momma to Wild Horses- Moms in the Outdoors adventure group. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 wheat is an ingredient in traditional soy sauces, although tamari is less likely to have it than chinese style. It's not just a north american trend. In fact I watch an episode of Good Eats in which Alton explained how soy sauces were made and he called anything without wheat a mock or imitation soy sauce because it was not made in the traditional fashion with fermented wheat. BL On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Karen Fielder <karenandbrandon wrote: > So does the majority of the soy sauce in Japan or China have wheat in their > restaurants too or is it just an american japanese restaurant thing to find > it like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I would say that they do in Japan and China as well. When I go to our Asian market, and they have five hundred kinds of imported soy sauce with Asian characters on them, they do have wheat as well. Pam On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Karen Fielder <karenandbrandon wrote: > So does the majority of the soy sauce in Japan or China have wheat in their > restaurants too or is it just an american japanese restaurant thing to find > it like this? > > Karen > > pdw > Monday, March 23, 2009 11:43 PM > > Re: newbie to group > > I was hoping that someone else would weigh in on the soy issue. > > I have researched both sides of the soy issue. I found that the > negative stuff tends to come from two or three sources, all of them > related, who are funded by the meat and dairy industry. Their studies > are not unbiased. In order to look more official, they use each other > as references, but they are all related. > > Soy products have been used in Asian cultures for centuries. Those > cultures typically have very low rates of cancer and other western > diseases. So chances are that if you model your diet after those > cultures - plant based diet, with soy used in small amounts, " whole " > soy products, mostly in fermented forms, you do not need to worry > about the hysterical claims of the meat and dairy industries. There > is a big difference between eating the highly processed commercial soy > products (meals based around veggie burgers and faux meats, high-sugar > soy milk, etc.) and traditional tofu, tempeh, edamame, etc. > > Pam > > Pam > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 4:00 PM, uwalburn <uwalburn wrote: >> hello all and thank you for allowing me in this group. I am a recovering >> vegan trying to find ways to compass our menu around our food allergies. I >> was a vegetarian for 5 yrs followed by 5 yrs as vegan. i fell off the >> wagon >> druing the pregnancies of my 3 and 1 yr old. i tned to fall victim to >> bacon >> sometimes. i am vegan for ethical and health reasons and my sometimes >> failures mean i'm human. in addition to wheat and gluten , my daughters >> and >> i are also allergic to citrus, strawberry, raw tomatoe and apple based >> vinegars. so recipes are hard. i use to loave plenty of soy products until >> i >> read to much about the soy story and currently not sure if i want my girls >> consuming it. i am trying to find a balance. i really miss tofu and and >> other soy items. if anyone can give some advice about this i would >> appreciate it. i know using soy would make it very easy for us to maintain >> a >> vegan diet with out only it rice,potatoe dishes. >> thank you, >> unita w..birth momma to Wild Horses- Moms in the Outdoors adventure group. >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 On Mar 24, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Karen Fielder wrote: > So does the majority of the soy sauce in Japan or China have wheat > in their restaurants too or is it just an american japanese > restaurant thing to find it like this? === can only speak for China. I never found a single wheat free soy sauce in Beijing. Sherene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 There were wheat-free soy sauces in some places in Japan, as I recall, but they weren't the norm. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Sherene Silverberg <sherene wrote: > > On Mar 24, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Karen Fielder wrote: > > > So does the majority of the soy sauce in Japan or China have wheat > > in their restaurants too or is it just an american japanese > > restaurant thing to find it like this? > === > > can only speak for China. I never found a single wheat free soy sauce > in Beijing. > > Sherene > > -- " This isn't a matter of Republican and Democrat. It's not liberal. It's not conservative. It's simply common sense. This is a national emergency. . . . You have to be honest about the way the biosphere works, and we have to move this country very rapidly in a different direction. " --John Orr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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