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What would be a good sub for soy flour in pumpkin muffins? It calls for 1 1/2

cups brown rice flour and 1/2 cup soy flour? We don't do soy, potato or any

flours with wheat/gluten.

 

I have to say I'm getting really frustrated with baking. We have been gluten

free for almost 3 weeks and I keep trying recipes for stuff like gluten free

pancakes, waffles, pumpkin bread, cookies, brownies. I have not had one success

yet and the ingredients are costing me a fortune. I'm so sick of throwing stuff

out. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I did find one pizza crust recipe

that has worked but everything else I've made using gluten free flours has

failed miserably! I'm guessing it's because we are so restricted and have to

sub so many ingredients but I can't find any recipes that work with all our

restrictions. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

Amy

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Hey, Amy. I admire you for jumping right in there trying to make things---I

did the same thing when I was diagnosed---but then I discovered two things

are true: 1. Three weeks in, your palate hasn't adjusted yet. What tastes

gross to you now will taste fine to you 3-6 months from now. (Not

everything, of course, but many things---your body forgets much more than

you would think it can. I say that as a total foodie, not someone who just

eats because she has to.) 2. It's hard to sub in various flours---especially

if you have additional restrictions beyond gluten-free---before you begin to

have an understanding of how gluten-free flours interact with each other,

and that takes some time. What I did was back off from using homemade flour

mixes for a while (even though that's my natural inclination) and start

using mixes. I found which mixes I liked, and I paid attention to which

flours those mixes used. I also d to groups like this one (setting

them up so that I would get every post as an email) so that I would read

about other people's flour choices (among other things), and at times, I did

Google searches to read up on the properties of different flours. Nearly

two years into it, I still don't come close to having a perfect

understanding of the twenty or so flours I have in my kitchen, but I can

usually go in the kitchen, mix up a few flours for a recipe I make up, and

have the recipe come out well. (If it doesn't come out great the first

time, I can usually tell why and fix it---something I never could have done

in the early days.)

 

So . . . you will get there. It just takes time and patience.

 

These two lists of flour descriptions may help you make good choices about

subs:

 

http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreeingredients/tp/20-Gluten-Free-Fl\

ours.01.htm

 

http://gnowfglins.com/2008/04/01/a-grain-primer/

 

If you're someone with a sensitive palate, especially early on, I wouldn't

make a recipe that calls for 1.5 cups brown rice flour and only .5 cup of

other flour. Unless you've purchased superfine brown rice flour (which you

can find on the web), the rice flour is likely to taste a bit gritty when

it's used in the proportion the recipe you're trying calls for. Some people

aren't bothered by the grittiness at all, but those of us with more

sensitive palates tend to be.

 

In general, there's a reason that a lot of gluten-free recipes call for a

mixture of four or more flours. When you're replacing what wheat can do in

a recipe, you tend to need to get a variety of flours to fulfill the needs:

lightness, protein, taste, texture, etc.

 

But to answer your specific question directly, I would either sub in 1/2 cup

sorghum flour for the soy flour, or (for a different taste) I'd try 1/4 cup

coconut flour and 1/4 cup sorghum.

 

If you can eat certified gluten-free oats, you could put some in the blender

or food processor, process it into a flour, and replace half the brown rice

flour with that in your muffin recipe. I think that would help with the

texture issues of the brown rice flour.

 

Take heart---it will get better, even if it just seems like a giant pain

now.

 

Sally

http://aprovechar.danandsally.com

 

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Amy <awilkins23 wrote:

 

> What would be a good sub for soy flour in pumpkin muffins? It calls for

> 1 1/2 cups brown rice flour and 1/2 cup soy flour? We don't do soy, potato

> or any flours with wheat/gluten.

>

> I have to say I'm getting really frustrated with baking. We have been

> gluten free for almost 3 weeks and I keep trying recipes for stuff like

> gluten free pancakes, waffles, pumpkin bread, cookies, brownies. I have not

> had one success yet and the ingredients are costing me a fortune. I'm so

> sick of throwing stuff out. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I did find

> one pizza crust recipe that has worked but everything else I've made using

> gluten free flours has failed miserably! I'm guessing it's because we are so

> restricted and have to sub so many ingredients but I can't find any recipes

> that work with all our restrictions. Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Thanks

> Amy

>

>

>

 

 

 

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" How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,

compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of

the weak -- because someday you will have been all of these. "

--George Washington Carver

 

 

 

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I would use another kind of bean or pulse flour like besan (chickpea)

navy or pinto bean, or white lentil. If you don't like the taste of

bean flours you could use sorghum or millet, but bean flours add the

extra protein rice doesn't have.

 

BL

 

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Amy <awilkins23 wrote:

> What would be a good sub for soy flour in pumpkin muffins? It calls for 1

> 1/2 cups brown rice flour and 1/2 cup soy flour? We don't do soy, potato or

> any flours with wheat/gluten.

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I would sub quinoa flour or another bean flour, maybe garbanzo.

 

If you have one baking project that works out (like the pizza crust),

keep in mind that you can use it for other things. Add a bit more

liquid to make crepe-like taco shells. Add some sugar and cinnamon to

that to make pancakes. Use it to make drop-biscuits, focaccia,

garlic bread, etc. It may not be loaf bread, but it satisfies some

needs.

 

We also use rice cakes for open-faced sandwiches (mmm, pb & banana . . .)

 

Pam

 

 

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Amy <awilkins23 wrote:

> What would be a good sub for soy flour in pumpkin muffins? It calls for 1

> 1/2 cups brown rice flour and 1/2 cup soy flour? We don't do soy, potato or

> any flours with wheat/gluten.

>

> I have to say I'm getting really frustrated with baking. We have been gluten

> free for almost 3 weeks and I keep trying recipes for stuff like gluten free

> pancakes, waffles, pumpkin bread, cookies, brownies. I have not had one

> success yet and the ingredients are costing me a fortune. I'm so sick of

> throwing stuff out. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I did find one

> pizza crust recipe that has worked but everything else I've made using

> gluten free flours has failed miserably! I'm guessing it's because we are so

> restricted and have to sub so many ingredients but I can't find any recipes

> that work with all our restrictions. Any suggestions would be greatly

> appreciated.

>

> Thanks

> Amy

>

>

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Can you use tapioca flour? That should sub well. Baking is difficult. I've been

on this diet for years and still waste a lot! Mostly I just avoid breads or buy

them, which buying really isn't an option with your restrictions.

As an alternative to pancakes, you can shred veggies and make similar to a

potato pancake. I've done this with zuchini and carrots. If corn is ok you could

make corn cakes, which I think I posted a recipe in the past, but I can post

again if need be.

For pizza and flatbreads I got pizza pans with holes, which seems to help bake

through better. I put wet paper towels under it on the counter to spread the

dough out. Also you should let them cool about 10 min before cutting. Cupcakes

and mini bunt or loaf cakes turn out better than large cakes.

It's really all trail and error. I'll see if I have any bread recipes meeting

your reqirements.

 

Good luck!

 

 

Amy <awilkins23

Monday, March 30, 2009 3:09 PM

 

Sub for soy flour

 

What would be a good sub for soy flour in pumpkin muffins? It calls for 1 1/2

cups brown rice flour and 1/2 cup soy flour? We don't do soy, potato or any

flours with wheat/gluten.

 

I have to say I'm getting really frustrated with baking. We have been gluten

free for almost 3 weeks and I keep trying recipes for stuff like gluten free

pancakes, waffles, pumpkin bread, cookies, brownies. I have not had one success

yet and the ingredients are costing me a fortune. I'm so sick of throwing stuff

out. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I did find one pizza crust recipe that

has worked but everything else I've made using gluten free flours has failed

miserably! I'm guessing it's because we are so restricted and have to sub so

many ingredients but I can't find any recipes that work with all our

restrictions. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks

Amy

 

 

 

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Just thought I would add this thought....are you sure it is just the

grains....for us soaking and drying and then grinding grains was the answer.

Grains and legumes have a thing called lectins in them and they are as bad as

the grain reaction itself. For us, for example,

chick peas, if we bought the flour would make everyone sick, even the smell was

enough to make some of us sick. But I tried the soaking and toasting...and we

use it all the time. I soak for at least 24 hours if not til they

sprout...changing the water several times...and then put them in the oven at 250

or so and dry em...often we will toast em and make a nutty flavor. I also do

the same with split

golden peas and we add either or both to our flour mix.

 

For us, the secret to living with GF/cf and many other restrictions,

is remembering that food is to nourish the body...or in other words,

eat to live, not live to eat....or get so hung up on taste that it makes life

miserable. That's hard when ya have kids as we do, but sometimes it has to be

that way to get better...for us health supersedes taste. I am not saying that

we don't enjoy foods...it is just that we have found that if it happens to taste

good...then we get a perk....if we are not allergic or intolerant and can afford

it..

then the rule is to shut up and eat it....sounds harsh...but with some of us

having 50+ allergies...it's what it takes to get thru this.

just my two cents.

Ronni

 

 

 

>

> What would be a good sub for soy flour in pumpkin muffins? It calls for 1 1/2

cups brown rice flour and 1/2 cup soy flour? We don't do soy, potato or any

flours with wheat/gluten.

>

> I have to say I'm getting really frustrated with baking. We have been gluten

free for almost 3 weeks and I keep trying recipes for stuff like gluten free

pancakes, waffles, pumpkin bread, cookies, brownies. I have not had one success

yet and the ingredients are costing me a fortune. I'm so sick of throwing stuff

out. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I did find one pizza crust recipe

that has worked but everything else I've made using gluten free flours has

failed miserably! I'm guessing it's because we are so restricted and have to

sub so many ingredients but I can't find any recipes that work with all our

restrictions. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks

> Amy

>

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Amy...

�

Two important pieces of information to take away from the responses you're

getting:

�

1) Give your palate a break for a while and don't try to sub gluten-free baked

goods for your old favorite wheat-based recipes. Eventually your body will

forget what wheat tastes like, and the new GF products won't taste bad. It

really is best to go GF by eating very basic foods for a while.

�

2) Subbing is an art. I have a degree in chemistry, so I tended to understand

better than most that when you sub ingredients, you have to understand the

properties of the ingredient you are replacing and do what you can to replace

those properties. Wheat flour works because�of it's protein content, and

especially the gluten protein which acts like an interconnecting web that gives

structure to baked goods. Gluten-free flours give structure through bulk mostly,

which makes the�final products much more dense. Also, without the

interconnecting web, GF baked goods are crumbly. Rice flour and starches add

bulk and a certain amount of web structure, but alot less protein than wheat.

Protein is important because it is what cross-links (think polymers or plastics)

to give structure�to a final product. This is why you'll see flour mixes

rather than 1:1 subs of rice flour for wheat flour.�The gums are also used to

help provide that web structure and retain

moisture (which wheat also does well), so you'll see most baked-goods recipes

requiring Xanthan gum. Without this gum most baked-goods end up crumbly.

�

[Edited for vegan list] Choose another high protein flour like other bean flours

(if tolerable), or teff, quinoa, amaranth, sorghum, etc. For potato starch, sub

corn starch if tolerable, or increase the tapioca starch (but try corn starch

first). Honey is another good ingredient to add as it helps retain moisture and

has preservative properties. [Edited: Vegan subs are brown rice syrup, maple

syrup, agave syrup, etc.]

�

I don't use alot of corn flour (not corn starch), but I do find that when I add

it to my biscuit recipe (which is otherwise rice/tapioca/potato starch) it makes

them taste and feel more like " real " biscuits. IF you can do oat flour, it is a

good sub in many recipes as it has a protein that works somewhat like gluten,

but it also has a strong flavor that will break through whatever you make. I use

it mostly to make cookies.

�

You really don't need 20 different flours unless you really enjoy the different

flavors each flour imparts. After experimenting, find a couple of starches you

can use, and 2 or 3 high protein flours that you like, and make your mixes from

those. For the most part, MOST recipes (especially cakes, quick breads,

pancakes, etc.) will do well with your basic mix. Look at mix recipes to figure

out the proportions of flours to put in your mix and go from there.

�

HTH,

Andrea

 

 

 

 

 

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I meant to add to my reply earlier that there are so many great meals that

don't require baking that it is entirely possible to ease off baking (just

for a while, just till you adjust a bit) and still eat well, even if you're

having to avoid other foods. Sweet potatoes, plantains, rice, millet,

quinoa, cornmeal (mmm grits), and wild rice all offer great non-gluten,

non-potato starches that you can have with a meal or as a meal.

 

My husband's staple breakfast (if I'm not cooking something specific) is

brown rice grits, because they are inexpensive, they cook easily, and they

take a variety of toppings to make tasty savory or sweet variations. (Of

course, he can eat the same thing day ain and day out because he has no

inclination toward allergies; those of us with food allergies tend to need

to not eat the same food day after day to avoid getting new allergies, which

is also part of why I don't bake foods with the same flour mix every time.)

 

Sally

 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Andrea Andraschko <enviroknowwrote:

 

> Amy...

> �

> Two important pieces of information to take away from the responses you're

> getting:

> �

> 1) Give your palate a break for a while and don't try to sub gluten-free

> baked goods for your old favorite wheat-based recipes. Eventually your body

> will forget what wheat tastes like, and the new GF products won't taste bad.

> It really is best to go GF by eating very basic foods for a while.

> �

> 2) Subbing is an art. I have a degree in chemistry, so I tended to

> understand better than most that when you sub ingredients, you have to

> understand the properties of the ingredient you are replacing and do what

> you can to replace those properties. Wheat flour works because�of it's

> protein content, and especially the gluten protein which acts like an

> interconnecting web that gives structure to baked goods. Gluten-free flours

> give structure through bulk mostly, which makes the�final products much

> more dense. Also, without the interconnecting web, GF baked goods are

> crumbly. Rice flour and starches add bulk and a certain amount of web

> structure, but alot less protein than wheat. Protein is important because it

> is what cross-links (think polymers or plastics) to give structure�to a

> final product. This is why you'll see flour mixes rather than 1:1 subs of

> rice flour for wheat flour.�The gums are also used to help provide that

> web structure and retain

> moisture (which wheat also does well), so you'll see most baked-goods

> recipes requiring Xanthan gum. Without this gum most baked-goods end up

> crumbly.

> �

> [Edited for vegan list] Choose another high protein flour like other bean

> flours (if tolerable), or teff, quinoa, amaranth, sorghum, etc. For potato

> starch, sub corn starch if tolerable, or increase the tapioca starch (but

> try corn starch first). Honey is another good ingredient to add as it helps

> retain moisture and has preservative properties. [Edited: Vegan subs are

> brown rice syrup, maple syrup, agave syrup, etc.]

> �

> I don't use alot of corn flour (not corn starch), but I do find that when I

> add it to my biscuit recipe (which is otherwise rice/tapioca/potato starch)

> it makes them taste and feel more like " real " biscuits. IF you can do oat

> flour, it is a good sub in many recipes as it has a protein that works

> somewhat like gluten, but it also has a strong flavor that will break

> through whatever you make. I use it mostly to make cookies.

> �

> You really don't need 20 different flours unless you really enjoy the

> different flavors each flour imparts. After experimenting, find a couple of

> starches you can use, and 2 or 3 high protein flours that you like, and make

> your mixes from those. For the most part, MOST recipes (especially cakes,

> quick breads, pancakes, etc.) will do well with your basic mix. Look at mix

> recipes to figure out the proportions of flours to put in your mix and go

> from there.

> �

> HTH,

> Andrea

>

>

>

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Thanks for all the responses. I see a lot of people have recommended not baking

or trying stuff from scratch for a bit but that is really tough for us. We have

a large list of restrictions and I don't know what else to eat. We are really

having a difficult time because we've had to cut out so much at once. Here is

our list of restrictions (I'm sure I'll miss some):

 

potato, egg, dairy, coconut of any sort, corn, gluten, soy, orange, pineapple,

grapefruit, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloupe, apple, cabbage, tomato, blueberry,

walnut, peanut, onion, lemon, lime, etc.

 

We can do strawberries, cherries, raspberries but only in limited amounts so I

try to rotate these through smoothies.

 

Any suggestions for breakfast? We used to do lots of pancakes and waffles.

That's why I've been trying those. I did banana pecan pancakes this morning and

they turned out ok. Up til now, when I say things haven't worked, I don't

really mean taste. I wish that was my only problem haha. My husband thinks it

is all awful but I've pretty much learned to live with the different taste. The

pancake recipes have all been way too salty or sugary compared to non-GF stuff I

used to eat but I can work on that. The problem is that the stuff I'm making is

often not edible and has to go in the garbage! The waffles just turn to mush or

they crumble and fall apart in the waffle iron. I've yet to get a waffle to

turn out. My husband has got the Namaste mix to work but nothing I've made from

recipes has.

 

I don't mind buying mixes but Namaste are the only ones I've found that meet our

restrictions and most of them call for lots of eggs. I want to try the bread

mix but it calls for egg whites and I have no idea how to sub those. I use flax

for regular eggs. I actually haven't tried any regular bread, rolls, biscuits

or anything like that. I would love to but am a bit nervous with my track

record so far. The closest thing I've tried is pumpkin chocolate chip bread and

it was tolerable. The brownies I made from the Namaste mix would not solidify

for anything. They were wet and just wouldn't cook through. When they finally

seemed done, they turned to bricks. I couldn't even get them out of the pan.

What I did pry out tasted yummy though. It's just hard to throw out a whole pan

at $7 a mix, kwim?

 

I'd love any suggestions, recipes, websites, etc. People have told me to try

ethnic recipes or stuff that wouldn't typically use gluten but then I find

things call for soy or bbq sauce or worchestershire or other stuff we can't

have. I know there are recipes for subs but they often have things we can't

have either :(

 

If anybody has similar restrictions, I'd love to hear what you eat in a typical

week. Here's some of the things we've done since being gluten free but I'm

having a really hard time coming up with meals. We used to eat out every Friday

and go to dinner at my mom's once or twice during the week. Now we have to eat

home 7 days a week and I'm struggling.

 

pasta and olive oil with turkey meatballs

whole chicken stuffed with rice and mixed veggies

bacon chicken pasta toss

white pizza

meatball and pasta soup

chicken, beans, and rice

turkey burgers (no buns), mushrooms, and sweet potato fries

pasta with kale, chicken, and red peppers

stuffed peppers

chili

sausage, pasta, and broccoli

chicken noodle soup

 

We love soup and I'd like to try more of those but I'm not sure how to sub for

onion.

 

I'm trying to be optimistic and look forward to some great ideas. Thanks for

listening!

 

Amy

 

, Andrea Andraschko <enviroknow

wrote:

>

> Amy...

> �

> Two important pieces of information to take away from the responses you're

getting:

> �

> 1) Give your palate a break for a while and don't try to sub gluten-free baked

goods for your old favorite wheat-based recipes. Eventually your body will

forget what wheat tastes like, and the new GF products won't taste bad. It

really is best to go GF by eating very basic foods for a while.

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Amy,

 

I have found a flax gel works well for an egg sub in the Namaste mixes (a

make the muffins regularly).

 

For Two Eggs: 3 T of Flax Meal and 6 T of hot water. Whisk with a fork and

let stand for 5 or 10 minutes until it's the consistency of eggs.

 

 

Margaret

 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Amy <awilkins23 wrote:

 

> Thanks for all the responses. I see a lot of people have recommended not

> baking or trying stuff from scratch for a bit but that is really tough for

> us. We have a large list of restrictions and I don't know what else to eat.

> We are really having a difficult time because we've had to cut out so much

> at once. Here is our list of restrictions (I'm sure I'll miss some):

>

> potato, egg, dairy, coconut of any sort, corn, gluten, soy, orange,

> pineapple, grapefruit, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloupe, apple, cabbage,

> tomato, blueberry, walnut, peanut, onion, lemon, lime, etc.

>

> We can do strawberries, cherries, raspberries but only in limited amounts

> so I try to rotate these through smoothies.

>

> Any suggestions for breakfast? We used to do lots of pancakes and waffles.

> That's why I've been trying those. I did banana pecan pancakes this morning

> and they turned out ok. Up til now, when I say things haven't worked, I

> don't really mean taste. I wish that was my only problem haha. My husband

> thinks it is all awful but I've pretty much learned to live with the

> different taste. The pancake recipes have all been way too salty or sugary

> compared to non-GF stuff I used to eat but I can work on that. The problem

> is that the stuff I'm making is often not edible and has to go in the

> garbage! The waffles just turn to mush or they crumble and fall apart in the

> waffle iron. I've yet to get a waffle to turn out. My husband has got the

> Namaste mix to work but nothing I've made from recipes has.

>

> I don't mind buying mixes but Namaste are the only ones I've found that

> meet our restrictions and most of them call for lots of eggs. I want to try

> the bread mix but it calls for egg whites and I have no idea how to sub

> those. I use flax for regular eggs. I actually haven't tried any regular

> bread, rolls, biscuits or anything like that. I would love to but am a bit

> nervous with my track record so far. The closest thing I've tried is pumpkin

> chocolate chip bread and it was tolerable. The brownies I made from the

> Namaste mix would not solidify for anything. They were wet and just wouldn't

> cook through. When they finally seemed done, they turned to bricks. I

> couldn't even get them out of the pan. What I did pry out tasted yummy

> though. It's just hard to throw out a whole pan at $7 a mix, kwim?

>

> I'd love any suggestions, recipes, websites, etc. People have told me to

> try ethnic recipes or stuff that wouldn't typically use gluten but then I

> find things call for soy or bbq sauce or worchestershire or other stuff we

> can't have. I know there are recipes for subs but they often have things we

> can't have either :(

>

> If anybody has similar restrictions, I'd love to hear what you eat in a

> typical week. Here's some of the things we've done since being gluten free

> but I'm having a really hard time coming up with meals. We used to eat out

> every Friday and go to dinner at my mom's once or twice during the week. Now

> we have to eat home 7 days a week and I'm struggling.

>

> pasta and olive oil with turkey meatballs

> whole chicken stuffed with rice and mixed veggies

> bacon chicken pasta toss

> white pizza

> meatball and pasta soup

> chicken, beans, and rice

> turkey burgers (no buns), mushrooms, and sweet potato fries

> pasta with kale, chicken, and red peppers

> stuffed peppers

> chili

> sausage, pasta, and broccoli

> chicken noodle soup

>

> We love soup and I'd like to try more of those but I'm not sure how to sub

> for onion.

>

> I'm trying to be optimistic and look forward to some great ideas. Thanks

> for listening!

>

> Amy

>

> --- In

<%40>,

> Andrea Andraschko <enviroknow wrote:

> >

> > Amy...

> > �

> > Two important pieces of information to take away from the responses

> you're getting:

> > �

> > 1) Give your palate a break for a while and don't try to sub gluten-free

> baked goods for your old favorite wheat-based recipes. Eventually your body

> will forget what wheat tastes like, and the new GF products won't taste bad.

> It really is best to go GF by eating very basic foods for a while.

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Okay, some foods that you can eat:

 

Flours/grains/starches:

Amaranth

Kaniwa

Quinoa

Nut/seed flours (cashew, filbert, hazelnut, pecan, almond, sunflower)

Taro/poi

Sago

Jerusalem artichoke flour

Sweet potato flour

Arrowroot

Casava

Tapioca

Bean/dal/pea flours (other than soy)

Mesquite flour

Banana/plantain flour

Millet

Oats

Rice

Sorghum

Teff

Buckwheat

 

Noodle/noodle sub:

Agar agar noodles

Kelp noodles

Sea spaghetti

Spiral cut vegetables

Shirataki noodles

sweet potato noodles

Mung bean/cellophane noodles

Arrowroot vermicelli

Spaghetti squash

Sliced eggplant or zucchini for lasagna

bamboo shoots

Buckwheat noodles

 

Proteins (vegetarian, 'cause this is a vegan list):

Quinoa

Nuts/seeds

Beans/peas/lentils

Algaes

 

Dairy subs:

Nut/seed milks, creams & cheeses

Hemp milk

Bean milks

Millet milk

Rice Milk

Oat Milk

Millet butter

 

Veggies:

Algaes

Greens of all sorts

Beets

Carrots

Celery

Parsnips

All sorts of brassica other than cabbage

Artichoke

Jicama

Sweet Potato

Sprouts

Beans

Jicama

Peas

Fungus

Avocado

Asparagus

Can you manage leeks/ramps/garlic?

Cucumber

Pumpkin

Squashes

Zucchini

Peppers/chilis

Various root vegetables

 

 

Fruits:

Kiwi

Mango

Dates

Cactus fruits

Mangosteen

Cranberry

Currant

Gooseberry

Pomegranate

Durian

Fig

Jackfruit

Banana

Plantain

Guava

Papaya

Passion fruit

Rhubarb

Pear

Stone fruits

Lychee

Grape

Raisin

 

I'm thinking you would benefit from reading some books/sites on raw

foodism. They are mostly gluten-free, low in such things as soy and

corn, and light on sauces. You're going to see lots of fruits and

veggies, nuts and seeds.

 

I'd also look at hare krishna recipes. Dosas (like savoury crepes)

made of rice and lentils, no onions used. Just watch out for dairy,

as they do use yogurt:

 

http://www.harekrsna.com/practice/prasadam/recipes/recipes.htm

 

You might want to look at Fuhrman's " Eat to Live " program and recipes.

Although not entirely gluten-free, he is mostly vegan and limits

flours, breads, starches, etc. Breakfasts are generally a green

smoothie, fruits and nuts, etc. Emphasis on lots of greens, which are

on your " ok " list.

 

There are plenty of Asian dishes that do not use soy sauce. Sushi can

be lots of fun and is generally rice, seaweed, and vegetables. There

are lots of Asian noodles and root vegetables that are gluten-free and

corn and potato-free, and they don't use a lot of tomato.

 

Indian foods you will need to watch out for coconut in curries, and

for potatoes, but otherwise a lot of them will meet your needs.

 

Recipes that call for corn starch, you can sub arrowroot. Those that

call for potato starch, you can sub tapioca starch. Potato flour you

can sub with quinoa flour.

 

Soup is a good idea. You can use other spices and leave out onions.

 

Pam

 

 

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Amy <awilkins23 wrote:

> Thanks for all the responses. I see a lot of people have recommended not

> baking or trying stuff from scratch for a bit but that is really tough for

> us. We have a large list of restrictions and I don't know what else to eat.

> We are really having a difficult time because we've had to cut out so much

> at once. Here is our list of restrictions (I'm sure I'll miss some):

>

> potato, egg, dairy, coconut of any sort, corn, gluten, soy, orange,

> pineapple, grapefruit, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloupe, apple, cabbage,

> tomato, blueberry, walnut, peanut, onion, lemon, lime, etc.

>

> We can do strawberries, cherries, raspberries but only in limited amounts so

> I try to rotate these through smoothies.

>

> Any suggestions for breakfast? We used to do lots of pancakes and waffles.

> That's why I've been trying those. I did banana pecan pancakes this morning

> and they turned out ok. Up til now, when I say things haven't worked, I

> don't really mean taste. I wish that was my only problem haha. My husband

> thinks it is all awful but I've pretty much learned to live with the

> different taste. The pancake recipes have all been way too salty or sugary

> compared to non-GF stuff I used to eat but I can work on that. The problem

> is that the stuff I'm making is often not edible and has to go in the

> garbage! The waffles just turn to mush or they crumble and fall apart in the

> waffle iron. I've yet to get a waffle to turn out. My husband has got the

> Namaste mix to work but nothing I've made from recipes has.

>

> I don't mind buying mixes but Namaste are the only ones I've found that meet

> our restrictions and most of them call for lots of eggs. I want to try the

> bread mix but it calls for egg whites and I have no idea how to sub those. I

> use flax for regular eggs. I actually haven't tried any regular bread,

> rolls, biscuits or anything like that. I would love to but am a bit nervous

> with my track record so far. The closest thing I've tried is pumpkin

> chocolate chip bread and it was tolerable. The brownies I made from the

> Namaste mix would not solidify for anything. They were wet and just wouldn't

> cook through. When they finally seemed done, they turned to bricks. I

> couldn't even get them out of the pan. What I did pry out tasted yummy

> though. It's just hard to throw out a whole pan at $7 a mix, kwim?

>

> I'd love any suggestions, recipes, websites, etc. People have told me to try

> ethnic recipes or stuff that wouldn't typically use gluten but then I find

> things call for soy or bbq sauce or worchestershire or other stuff we can't

> have. I know there are recipes for subs but they often have things we can't

> have either :(

>

> If anybody has similar restrictions, I'd love to hear what you eat in a

> typical week. Here's some of the things we've done since being gluten free

> but I'm having a really hard time coming up with meals. We used to eat out

> every Friday and go to dinner at my mom's once or twice during the week. Now

> we have to eat home 7 days a week and I'm struggling.

>

> pasta and olive oil with turkey meatballs

> whole chicken stuffed with rice and mixed veggies

> bacon chicken pasta toss

> white pizza

> meatball and pasta soup

> chicken, beans, and rice

> turkey burgers (no buns), mushrooms, and sweet potato fries

> pasta with kale, chicken, and red peppers

> stuffed peppers

> chili

> sausage, pasta, and broccoli

> chicken noodle soup

>

> We love soup and I'd like to try more of those but I'm not sure how to sub

> for onion.

>

> I'm trying to be optimistic and look forward to some great ideas. Thanks for

> listening!

>

> Amy

>

> , Andrea Andraschko

> <enviroknow wrote:

>>

>> Amy...

>> �

>> Two important pieces of information to take away from the responses you're

>> getting:

>> �

>> 1) Give your palate a break for a while and don't try to sub gluten-free

>> baked goods for your old favorite wheat-based recipes. Eventually your body

>> will forget what wheat tastes like, and the new GF products won't taste bad.

>> It really is best to go GF by eating very basic foods for a while.

>

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Amy,

 

I can hear how you're struggling and I don't blame you one bit. Since you want

something to work, I'm going to type out the recipe for the muffins I'm making

right now. They look beautiful and are a favorite of my kids and even us

gluten-eating adults! Actually I baked one batch of Betty Crocker blueberry

muffins from a box and one batch of these gluten-free blueberry muffins, and the

gluten-free ones are about 100 times better, in my opinion. I'll try to keep

the recipe generic so you and others can make it work with your restrictions.

It's actually a cranberry bread recipe from the back of the book Cranberry

Thanksgiving. I've altered it a bit and turned it into muffins, which I think

bake better for gluten-free stuff. I always have success with muffins, which is

why I'm recommending them to you. Once you get more comfortable with the

baking, you'll be able to make some of the changes and substitutions I've put in

parentheses. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

 

--Shawn

 

Fruit Muffins

 

DRY INGREDIENTS:

 

2 cups gluten-free flour (Tonight I used 1.5 cups of a mixture that's 2 parts

brown rice flour, 1 part cornstarch, and 1 part tapioca starch. I used 1/2 cup

soy flour for the remainder necessary for the recipe. You could try a mixture

in similar proportions with rice flour and potato/tapioca starch. And you could

use any high protein flour or coconut for that last 1/2 cup. Or you could use

an all-purpose flour mixture for the entire two cups.)

 

1 cup sugar (I haven't experimented with agave in this recipe yet, but I plan to

soon.)

 

1/2 tsp baking powder

 

1 tsp salt

 

1/2 tsp baking soda

 

1 tsp guar guam or xanthan gum, optional but use if you can

 

1 tsp orange zest, optional (if you prefer another seasoning like cinnamon or

vanilla, that would be good instead, although no extra flavoring is necessary)

 

LIQUID INGREDIENTS:

 

1 egg substitute. (I always use either 1/4 cup flax gel or a heaping tablespoon

of soy flour plus two tablespoons of liquid. To make flax gel, I grind 1 part

whole flax seeds in the blender and then add 3 parts water. The mixture will

keep in the fridge for well over a week.)

 

3/4 cup liquid (fruit juice, rice milk, water, whatever you have and can use. I

always try to use rice milk or OJ because it keeps the mixture thin enough and

adds some calcium to the muffins. In my experience, soymilk alone makes the

batter too thick.)

 

FRUIT:

 

1 to 3 cups of fruit. (If I'm using previously frozen berries, I thaw about 1

1/2 cups. I've also rehydrated raisins and cranberries with great success.

Fresh cranberries are really good too.)

 

 

DIRECTIONS:

 

1. Heat oven to 350. Grease muffin tins or use muffin papers.

 

2. Whisk together dry ingredients.

 

3. In a separate bowl, whisk together the liquid ingredients. Add to dry

ingredients and mix.

 

4. Gently fold in fruit.

 

5. Fill muffin tins 3/4 full.

 

6. Bake at 350 degrees for 15-20 minutes. Muffins are done when they have

risen and are starting to brown on top. Makes 12 regular-sized muffins.

 

 

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Sounds great. Let me just ask this because it seems to me that my flour

mixtures must be messing things up. We can't do corn or potato so if I do brown

rice, arrowroot, and tapioca starch that should work? Since we can't do

coconut, sub a bean flour for the last 1/2 cup?

 

Thanks

Amy

 

> Fruit Muffins

>

> DRY INGREDIENTS:

>

> 2 cups gluten-free flour (Tonight I used 1.5 cups of a mixture that's 2 parts

brown rice flour, 1 part cornstarch, and 1 part tapioca starch. I used 1/2 cup

soy flour for the remainder necessary for the recipe. You could try a mixture

in similar proportions with rice flour and potato/tapioca starch. And you could

use any high protein flour or coconut for that last 1/2 cup. Or you could use

an all-purpose flour mixture for the entire two cups.)

>

> 1 cup sugar (I haven't experimented with agave in this recipe yet, but I plan

to soon.)

>

> 1/2 tsp baking powder

>

> 1 tsp salt

>

> 1/2 tsp baking soda

>

> 1 tsp guar guam or xanthan gum, optional but use if you can

>

> 1 tsp orange zest, optional (if you prefer another seasoning like cinnamon or

vanilla, that would be good instead, although no extra flavoring is necessary)

>

> LIQUID INGREDIENTS:

>

> 1 egg substitute. (I always use either 1/4 cup flax gel or a heaping

tablespoon of soy flour plus two tablespoons of liquid. To make flax gel, I

grind 1 part whole flax seeds in the blender and then add 3 parts water. The

mixture will keep in the fridge for well over a week.)

>

> 3/4 cup liquid (fruit juice, rice milk, water, whatever you have and can use.

I always try to use rice milk or OJ because it keeps the mixture thin enough and

adds some calcium to the muffins. In my experience, soymilk alone makes the

batter too thick.)

>

> FRUIT:

>

> 1 to 3 cups of fruit. (If I'm using previously frozen berries, I thaw about 1

1/2 cups. I've also rehydrated raisins and cranberries with great success.

Fresh cranberries are really good too.)

>

>

> DIRECTIONS:

>

> 1. Heat oven to 350. Grease muffin tins or use muffin papers.

>

> 2. Whisk together dry ingredients.

>

> 3. In a separate bowl, whisk together the liquid ingredients. Add to dry

ingredients and mix.

>

> 4. Gently fold in fruit.

>

> 5. Fill muffin tins 3/4 full.

>

> 6. Bake at 350 degrees for 15-20 minutes. Muffins are done when they have

risen and are starting to brown on top. Makes 12 regular-sized muffins.

>

>

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Amy,

 

I think that would work fine. I haven't done too much experimenting with

arrowroot, but I have subbed it for cornstarch before with fine results. I

might even be tempted to just do rice flour and tapioca starch if you know that

would work with your restrictions. And any high-protein flour that you can

handle would be fine for the 1/2 cup. Honestly, I've made muffins many times

with whatever random flour mixture I happened to have on hand and they always

turn out well. The only time they didn't was when I somehow forgot to put in

the baking soda and baking powder. Those were not good!

 

I'll be curious to know if you get something to work soon. I've been where

you're at, the panic of feeling like you have nothing edible to feed the family

and you just want the old easiness back. It will come in time--I promise!

 

--Shawn

 

 

-

Amy

Wednesday, April 01, 2009 5:52 AM

Re:Sub for soy flour

 

 

Sounds great. Let me just ask this because it seems to me that my flour

mixtures must be messing things up. We can't do corn or potato so if I do brown

rice, arrowroot, and tapioca starch that should work? Since we can't do coconut,

sub a bean flour for the last 1/2 cup?

 

Thanks

Amy

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Do you soak your beans at room temperature?

 

Thanks - Amanda

 

, " ronnimike " <HISSPECIALTOUCH

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>

> Just thought I would add this thought....are you sure it is just the

> grains....for us soaking and drying and then grinding grains was the answer.

Grains and legumes have a thing called lectins in them and they are as bad as

the grain reaction itself. For us, for example,

> chick peas, if we bought the flour would make everyone sick, even the smell

was enough to make some of us sick. But I tried the soaking and toasting...and

we use it all the time. I soak for at least 24 hours if not til they

sprout...changing the water several times...and then put them in the oven at 250

or so and dry em...often we will toast em and make a nutty flavor. I also do

the same with split

> golden peas and we add either or both to our flour mix.

>

> For us, the secret to living with GF/cf and many other restrictions,

> is remembering that food is to nourish the body...or in other words,

> eat to live, not live to eat....or get so hung up on taste that it makes life

miserable. That's hard when ya have kids as we do, but sometimes it has to be

that way to get better...for us health supersedes taste. I am not saying that

we don't enjoy foods...it is just that we have found that if it happens to taste

good...then we get a perk....if we are not allergic or intolerant and can afford

it..

> then the rule is to shut up and eat it....sounds harsh...but with some of us

having 50+ allergies...it's what it takes to get thru this.

> just my two cents.

> Ronni

>

>

>

> >

> > What would be a good sub for soy flour in pumpkin muffins? It calls for 1

1/2 cups brown rice flour and 1/2 cup soy flour? We don't do soy, potato or any

flours with wheat/gluten.

> >

> > I have to say I'm getting really frustrated with baking. We have been

gluten free for almost 3 weeks and I keep trying recipes for stuff like gluten

free pancakes, waffles, pumpkin bread, cookies, brownies. I have not had one

success yet and the ingredients are costing me a fortune. I'm so sick of

throwing stuff out. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I did find one pizza

crust recipe that has worked but everything else I've made using gluten free

flours has failed miserably! I'm guessing it's because we are so restricted and

have to sub so many ingredients but I can't find any recipes that work with all

our restrictions. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Amy

> >

>

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, " Amy " <awilkins23 wrote:

 

> I have to say I'm getting really frustrated with baking. We have been gluten

free for almost 3 weeks and I keep trying recipes for stuff like gluten free

pancakes, waffles, pumpkin bread, cookies, brownies. I have not had one success

yet and the ingredients are costing me a fortune. I'm so sick of throwing stuff

out...

 

....have to sub so many ingredients but I can't find any recipes that work with

all our restrictions. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>

 

Amy, I hear your frustration--I have been eating gluten free for more than 2

years and still have things that turn out less than great. But, something else I

am " hearing " from you is that you seem to be focusing more on what you CAN'T

have instead of on what you CAN have. I was doing that too, in the beginning,

and it felt so much more restricting than it actually was. Once I started

thinking in positive terms, thinking more about what I CAN have to eat, I felt

better about the whole process.

 

You can start feeling better about your new way of eating by making a list of

things you CAN have, and go from there. Also, because we all learned how to cook

and bake using wheat, we have certain expectations about how bread should taste

and feel in our mouths. Breads, cookies, pancakes, muffins, etc., made without

wheat just are not ever going to taste and feel that way. We have to re-learn

how to bake things, and how to enjoy eating them.

 

For me, the real pleasure of eating a gluten free bread product is the knowing

that I am not going to be sick if I do. That in itself helps me to enjoy it.

 

Karen in Arizona

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Karen,

 

I totally agree with you and I really am trying to change my mindset. It's a

major shift and I'm really trying. I think I am focusing on what I can't have

because everytime I pick up a recipe it has stuff we can't have:( I've never

had any allergies or food restrictions so to be this restricted is a HUGE life

change for me.

 

I forgot to mention on one of my other posts that I can't add new foods at this

point. My son has reflux and numerous sensitivities. We have recently started

working with a new doctor after doing tons of allergy/sensitivity testing. We

have made numerous changes like starting probiotics and fish oil and removing

gluten and corn. She wants us to wait 4 weeks before adding anything that my

son has not been eating regularly because if he is reacting to the new foods we

won't know if removing gluten and corn is helping. So at this point we are

honestly very limited in what we can have. I'm not nearly as worried about me

as I am my son. If he eats the same thing daily there is a greater chance he's

going to develop a sensitivity to the things he can tolerate right now. So I'm

trying to be creative with the stuff we can have. I was trying to get some

ideas here but I just realized my mistake in asking about meals we can eat

(including meat) on a vegan board. I really apologize for that. If we could

eat more foods, I would seriously consider going vegan but we are so limited

right now that I really need to have some meat in our diet til we get things

sorted out with my son. I hope I didn't offend anybody by posting our recent

meals. I'm sleep deprived and not thinking! I'm still very interested in any

meals that are vegan and gluten free and work with our restrictions.

 

Anyway, I am really trying to focus on what I can eat so let me start by doing

this. This is what we can eat at this point in time (I might be forgetting a

couple things but this is really pretty much it):

 

sweet potato

rice

rice milk

rice pasta

quinoa

banana

strawberry

raspberry

chocolate chips

plums

grapes

pears

peas

some beans

carrots

greens

some meat

raisins

some spices

rice crackers

gluten-free flours

gluten free oats

pumpkin

olives

 

honey, garlic, and nuts are questionable at this point so we do them in small

amounts

 

Most of the other things I have not mentioned here were excluded from our diet

because they caused reactions and can not be added back now til we are through

the next month or so. So I'm trying to find variety each night using these few

ingredients and it's tough. I've tried making monkey platters with all the

things that my son can eat so he can graze all day. I'm just having a hard time

going from large meals with 3 or 4 sides to struggling to come up with anything.

Thanks for the suggestion, though, to focus on what we can eat! I'll keep

trying.

 

Amy

 

> Amy, I hear your frustration--I have been eating gluten free for more than 2

years and still have things that turn out less than great. But, something else I

am " hearing " from you is that you seem to be focusing more on what you CAN'T

have instead of on what you CAN have. I was doing that too, in the beginning,

and it felt so much more restricting than it actually was. Once I started

thinking in positive terms, thinking more about what I CAN have to eat, I felt

better about the whole process.

>

> You can start feeling better about your new way of eating by making a list of

things you CAN have, and go from there. Also, because we all learned how to cook

and bake using wheat, we have certain expectations about how bread should taste

and feel in our mouths. Breads, cookies, pancakes, muffins, etc., made without

wheat just are not ever going to taste and feel that way. We have to re-learn

how to bake things, and how to enjoy eating them.

>

> For me, the real pleasure of eating a gluten free bread product is the knowing

that I am not going to be sick if I do. That in itself helps me to enjoy it.

>

> Karen in Arizona

>

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When you are limited to so few foods, it is going to be difficult to

do a " real " diet rotation. But if you want to attempt that, I would

suggest reading (I think it was) The Complete Food Allergy Cookbook,

which explains how to set up a rotation diet, starting one food at a

time.

 

Realize that it is going to be " boring " until you get enough foods

added back in to provide the variety that you are longing for. That's

okay. Just acknowledge to yourself that it is going to be boring, and

that is okay. It is for a limited period of time, and it will get

better.

 

One thing that I was happy to discover when we were doing rotation was

that you could still have noodles every day of the week. There are

noodles made of rice, beans, starchy roots like arrowroot, and algae

or vegetables. So noodles can have a part in a four day (or more)

rotation.

 

With grains, I would stick to the whole grains (pilafs, curries, etc.)

rather than doing a lot of baking. Rice, quinoa and gf oats are very

versatile for use as breakfast, dinner, snacks, etc. We use rice

cakes for open-faced sandwiches a lot. I note you don't have which

nuts you can have listed, but I know you mentioned pecan in another

recipe, so I assume you could do a pecan-butter and banana topping on

a rice cake, for a simple, no-fuss snack or lunch.

 

For a dessert, you can have " banana boats " (slit bananas lengthwise,

stuff with nut butter) made in the microwave. Since choc chips are

okay, you can even melt those on top. Rice or tapioca puddings are

nice too. They don't need anything special - some rice milk, safe

fruit, sugar and spices if you want.

 

Those peas and beans that he can have (and I assume he can have some

dals/lentils as well) can be made into dips for veggies, into dosas

(flatbreads), etc. as well as used to top salads, have a main course

of rice and beans, etc.

 

We often have fruit and nuts or smoothies for breakfast. When we

first started out with allergy-free eating, my son's two favourite

breakfasts were rice and veggie ham (no spices or anything else, just

cooked rice and veg ham) or ants on a log (you don't list celery,

which is fairly non-allergenic, but you could of course adapt this to

pecan butter and raisins on carrot sticks.

 

Just work on simple, two or three ingredient dishes for a while.

Don't try to do a lot of fancy baking. Certainly ask here if there is

a particular recipe you want to sort out, but I would suggest to

sticking to real simple, whole foods.

 

If you are doing a rotation diet, remember that you can decide which

24-hour period is your " day " . It is much easier if tonight's supper

leftovers can be used for tomorrow's breakfast and lunch, and then

tomorrow's supper leftovers can be used for the next day's breakfast

and lunch, rather than having to use up, toss out, or freeze whatever

is left over from supper and think up new things to eat for the next

breakfast and lunch. Remember that breakfast doesn't have to be

traditional breakfast foods, and lunch doesn't have to be soup, salad,

or sandwich.

 

Pam

 

 

 

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Amy <awilkins23 wrote:

She wants us to wait 4 weeks before adding

> anything that my son has not been eating regularly because if he is reacting

> to the new foods we won't know if removing gluten and corn is helping. So at

> this point we are honestly very limited in what we can have. I'm not nearly

> as worried about me as I am my son. If he eats the same thing daily there is

> a greater chance he's going to develop a sensitivity to the things he can

> tolerate right now. So I'm trying to be creative with the stuff we can have.

> I was trying to get some ideas here but I just realized my mistake in asking

> about meals we can eat (including meat) on a vegan board. I really apologize

> for that. If we could eat more foods, I would seriously consider going vegan

> but we are so limited right now that I really need to have some meat in our

> diet til we get things sorted out with my son. I hope I didn't offend

> anybody by posting our recent meals. I'm sleep deprived and not thinking!

> I'm still very interested in any meals that are vegan and gluten free and

> work with our restrictions.

>

> Anyway, I am really trying to focus on what I can eat so let me start by

> doing this. This is what we can eat at this point in time (I might be

> forgetting a couple things but this is really pretty much it):

>

> sweet potato

> rice

> rice milk

> rice pasta

> quinoa

> banana

> strawberry

> raspberry

> chocolate chips

> plums

> grapes

> pears

> peas

> some beans

> carrots

> greens

> some meat

> raisins

> some spices

> rice crackers

> gluten-free flours

> gluten free oats

> pumpkin

> olives

>

> honey, garlic, and nuts are questionable at this point so we do them in

> small amounts

>

> Most of the other things I have not mentioned here were excluded from our

> diet because they caused reactions and can not be added back now til we are

> through the next month or so. So I'm trying to find variety each night using

> these few ingredients and it's tough. I've tried making monkey platters with

> all the things that my son can eat so he can graze all day. I'm just having

> a hard time going from large meals with 3 or 4 sides to struggling to come

> up with anything. Thanks for the suggestion, though, to focus on what we can

> eat! I'll keep trying.

>

> Amy

>

>> Amy, I hear your frustration--I have been eating gluten free for more than

>> 2 years and still have things that turn out less than great. But, something

>> else I am " hearing " from you is that you seem to be focusing more on what

>> you CAN'T have instead of on what you CAN have. I was doing that too, in the

>> beginning, and it felt so much more restricting than it actually was. Once I

>> started thinking in positive terms, thinking more about what I CAN have to

>> eat, I felt better about the whole process.

>>

>> You can start feeling better about your new way of eating by making a list

>> of things you CAN have, and go from there. Also, because we all learned how

>> to cook and bake using wheat, we have certain expectations about how bread

>> should taste and feel in our mouths. Breads, cookies, pancakes, muffins,

>> etc., made without wheat just are not ever going to taste and feel that way.

>> We have to re-learn how to bake things, and how to enjoy eating them.

>>

>> For me, the real pleasure of eating a gluten free bread product is the

>> knowing that I am not going to be sick if I do. That in itself helps me to

>> enjoy it.

>>

>> Karen in Arizona

>>

>

>

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Yes I do....and I put a couple tablespoons of vinegar in the grains...this is a

lot like the weston price idea...I just do the beans longer because the

sprouting helps to change the structure of

the bean and make it more digestable.

Ronni

 

 

> Do you soak your beans at room temperature?

>

> Thanks - Amanda

>

> , " ronnimike " <HISSPECIALTOUCH@>

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> >

> > Just thought I would add this thought....are you sure it is just the

> > grains....for us soaking and drying and then grinding grains was the answer.

Grains and legumes have a thing called lectins in them and they are as bad as

the grain reaction itself. For us, for example,

> > chick peas, if we bought the flour would make everyone sick, even the smell

was enough to make some of us sick. But I tried the soaking and toasting...and

we use it all the time. I soak for at least 24 hours if not til they

sprout...changing the water several times...and then put them in the oven at 250

or so and dry em...often we will toast em and make a nutty flavor. I also do

the same with split

> > golden peas and we add either or both to our flour mix.

> >

> > For us, the secret to living with GF/cf and many other restrictions,

> > is remembering that food is to nourish the body...or in other words,

> > eat to live, not live to eat....or get so hung up on taste that it makes

life miserable. That's hard when ya have kids as we do, but sometimes it has to

be that way to get better...for us health supersedes taste. I am not saying

that we don't enjoy foods...it is just that we have found that if it happens to

taste good...then we get a perk....if we are not allergic or intolerant and can

afford it..

> > then the rule is to shut up and eat it....sounds harsh...but with some of us

having 50+ allergies...it's what it takes to get thru this.

> > just my two cents.

> > Ronni

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > What would be a good sub for soy flour in pumpkin muffins? It calls for 1

1/2 cups brown rice flour and 1/2 cup soy flour? We don't do soy, potato or any

flours with wheat/gluten.

> > >

> > > I have to say I'm getting really frustrated with baking. We have been

gluten free for almost 3 weeks and I keep trying recipes for stuff like gluten

free pancakes, waffles, pumpkin bread, cookies, brownies. I have not had one

success yet and the ingredients are costing me a fortune. I'm so sick of

throwing stuff out. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. I did find one pizza

crust recipe that has worked but everything else I've made using gluten free

flours has failed miserably! I'm guessing it's because we are so restricted and

have to sub so many ingredients but I can't find any recipes that work with all

our restrictions. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Amy

> > >

> >

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