Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 In a message dated 12/7/03 3:12:37 AM, writes: > question: I know a woman who swears that she feels better eating > lots of protein and few carbs. I believe she is that meat blood > type. (Whatever on that one....I'm not sure I buy the whole blood > type thing anyway even though I'm an A.) How do we explain people > who just swear they feel so much better and more energetic by eating > vast amounts of meat and protein and few vegetables and > carbohydrates? Of course, she has lost weight along with this too. > Do we explain this by just saying that it's just a way to excuse all > that meat eating?????? > not necessarily. some people's systems are just more sensitive to carbs than others are. she may have a pre-diabetic or diabetic condition. or she may just be trying to justify her eating meat for your " benefit. " a lot of people say they can't go veg because they just feel better eating all that protein without realizing how much quality protein is in a well-planned vegetarian diet. i must say, though, that in the 12+ years i've been a trainer, i never heard many non-diabetic people say how much better they felt with a high-protein diet until atkins got popular... coincidence? i think not... melody http://www.melodysmusic.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Some people will say and/or believe anything to justify their new diets, won't they ;=) Of course, if your pal is losing weight, that'll make her feel good too. A lot of the dreadful Dr A's customers feel 'better' on his diet once they go into ketosis - just as a lot of people start to feel 'better' and happier on semi-starvation. Also, she might just like the me*at. The trouble with talking about this bloody-y diet even among veggies is that it forces one into discussing, to some extent, the *value* of me*t to the diet as protein and defending the *value* of vegetable or ovo-lacto protein. I find this a most uncomfortable position to be in on a list such as this *lol* Can we not just all agree that these wretched diets supported by the me*at industry are just that - propaganda for the meat industry? We all know that the theories - blood type or whatever - is just so much rot, don't we. Truly. Best, Pat > > question: I know a woman who swears that she feels better eating > lots of protein and few carbs. I believe she is that meat blood > type. (Whatever on that one....I'm not sure I buy the whole blood > type thing anyway even though I'm an A.) How do we explain people > who just swear they feel so much better and more energetic by eating > vast amounts of meat and protein and few vegetables and > carbohydrates? Of course, she has lost weight along with this too. > Do we explain this by just saying that it's just a way to excuse all > that meat eating?????? > I know for me personally, I felt soooo much better NOT eating meat!!! -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Can we not just all agree that these wretched > diets supported by the me*at industry are just that - propaganda for the > meat industry? We all know that the theories - blood type or whatever - > is just so much rot, don't we. Truly. > > Best, > Pat I would truly love to say that these diets are a bunch of rot myself. I do believe that the meat industry has created a mass amount of propaganda. I will not jump over the fence and start eating meat. I am, however, a curious person and I like to explore both sides. I have on occasion been wrong! I mean, if my friend says she feels better and I have no scientific or other evidence otherswise, then I have to believe what she says. Maybe for her that is her reality and the truth. Maybe for me it's a bunch of rot. It's hard for me to challenge her personal statement. She lives in her body and not me. I'm also an open-minded person and even though it's not for me in any way, who am I to say it's not for her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 ----Original Message Follows---- nadiana1 In a message dated 12/7/03 3:12:37 AM, writes: " not necessarily. some people's systems are just more sensitive to carbs than others are. she may have a pre-diabetic or diabetic condition. or she may just be trying to justify her eating meat for your " benefit. " a lot of people say they can't go veg because they just feel better eating all that protein without realizing how much quality protein is in a well-planned vegetarian diet. i must say, though, that in the 12+ years i've been a trainer, i never heard many non-diabetic people say how much better they felt with a high-protein diet until atkins got popular... coincidence? i think not... " False sense of beliefs perhaps.....people convincing/coercing themselves onto a particular path...or others doing it to them, for them.....maybe the comfortability factor of riding/believing in a system and clinging on.... makes people feel better or good (or not guilty) about themselves and what they are doing or eating.. no different from much else for most people, perhaps... *shrugs* S. _______________ Wonder if the latest virus has gotten to your computer? Find out. Run the FREE McAfee online computer scan! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 i must say, though, that in the 12+ years i've been a trainer, i never > heard many non-diabetic people say how much better they felt with a > high-protein diet until atkins got popular... coincidence? i think not... > That is interesting!!! I have another question......I have known diabetics and hypoglycemics who simply swear they could not be vegetarian since they have to eat protein. Is it possible to eat a vegetarian/vegan diet while being diabetic or hypoglycemic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 you're talking to one right now. :-) Megan - Is it possible to eat a vegetarian/vegan diet while being diabetic or hypoglycemic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 , " Megan Milligan " <yasminduran@c...> wrote: > you're talking to one right now. :-) > > Megan I'm sorry about your condition, but glad that you are able to be veg*n at the same time!! Do you control it with diet alone? What do you have to eat to maintain normal levels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 I have to agree here Sheryl. I really believe some foods have different effects on people. To give a VERY crude example... i could eat 1/2 a pound of fudge and suffer no ill side effects (well, besides weight gain! but i mean like a queasy tummy) and i have friends and family that can only eat one small bit and they are done. Now, this is a goofy example... but people react differently to different things. I have also noticed when i cut out dairy i feel great in only a few days. Just one of those things. peace nikki I would truly love to say that these diets are a bunch of rot myself. I do believe that the meat industry has created a mass amount of propaganda. I will not jump over the fence and start eating meat. I am, however, a curious person and I like to explore both sides. I have on occasion been wrong! I mean, if my friend says she feels better and I have no scientific or other evidence otherswise, then I have to believe what she says. Maybe for her that is her reality and the truth. Maybe for me it's a bunch of rot. It's hard for me to challenge her personal statement. She lives in her body and not me. I'm also an open-minded person and even though it's not for me in any way, who am I to say it's not for her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 My dad's blood sugar stablized and went down when he went Vegan. --- Megan Milligan <yasminduran wrote: > you're talking to one right now. :-) > > Megan > - > > Is it possible to eat a > vegetarian/vegan diet while being diabetic or > hypoglycemic? > New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 > if my friend > says she feels better and I have no scientific or other evidence > otherswise, then I have to believe what she says. . . . But there's lots of evidence to show that eating a lot of animal protein is *not* healthy, however one 'feels'. Lots of things that are not good for our bodies make us feel good - initially at least. > I'm also an open-minded person and > even though it's not for me in any way, who am I to say it's not for > her? A vegetarian? Okay, you don't want to argue with your friend, and I respect that. I wasn't suggesting that you should. But your friend doesn't appear to be on this list ;=) But here we are, all the same, talking to death a subject that is (properly, imo) banned from many vegetarian lists - the pros and cons of an animal-based diet - because someone has written a book about blood type and diet. No way. I won't risk becoming empty headed in an attempt to keep an open mind. Best all the same ;=) Pat -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Nice, Megan ;=) Another myth exploded! Best, Pat > > you're talking to one right now. :-) > > Megan > - > > Is it possible to eat a > vegetarian/vegan diet while being diabetic or hypoglycemic? > -- SANTBROWN townhounds/ vegetarianslimming/ HOMEPAGE: http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/ ---------- * " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi * " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci ---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 heh, I'm borderline Hypoglycemic. I get the best of both worlds. My mum is a type II diabetic & my dad is the hypo. lolol if I don't eat something every so often, my blood sugar can dip to 60 or below (last time i checked it on my mom's blood monitor when i was feeling lightheaded & sick to my stomach). The key with hypoglycemics & protein is protein helps give a longer-sustaining boost, for lack of a better term, for blood sugar. To me, doesnt' matter what the protein is as long as I eat something. If I have an attack I'll grab for a piece of candy or glass of orange juice. In psuedo defense of the blood-type diet, I have to say it's weird. I ran across a copy of it when i was shopping at whole foods (keep in mind this is after all the discussion started about this particular diet), and me being a type-a blood person, I was curious. So, I picked it up, read it a bit, and that describes me to a T. :-) megan - Sant & Brown Monday, December 08, 2003 4:51 AM Re: blood type diet Nice, Megan ;=) Another myth exploded! Best, Pat > > you're talking to one right now. :-) > > Megan > - > > Is it possible to eat a > vegetarian/vegan diet while being diabetic or hypoglycemic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 eek! make that " doesn't matter what the protein is " as in tofu, veggie burgers, whole grains, etc. lololol M. - The key with hypoglycemics & protein is protein helps give a longer-sustaining boost, for lack of a better term, for blood sugar. To me, doesnt' matter what the protein is as long as I eat something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 In psuedo defense of the blood-type diet, I have to say it's weird. I ran across a copy of it when i was shopping at whole foods (keep in mind this is after all the discussion started about this particular diet), and me being a type-a blood person, I was curious. So, I picked it up, read it a bit, and that describes me to a T. :-) megan ***** ***** ***** That's what i meant too... just kinda cool that it " fit " me so well ) Also... hyper or hype glycemic... is there both? I get VERY shakey when i haven't ate in a while. I mean head spinning and can barely hold a glass! It's a bit bizarre and embarassing... i don't understand because i am about 80 pounds overweight and can't quite understand why that happens. I know a tad about nutrition but not much about the glycemic stuff nor diabetes. peace nikki --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.541 / Virus Database: 335 - Release 11/14/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Your friend may in fact feel better after eating meat. This could be entirely the placeebo effect. The mind is a powerful thing and if you convince yourself that something makes you feel better it will. There are no amino acids in meat that cannot be found in vegetable sources, Certainly if one refuses to eat many legumes, rice, or other vegetable protein sources one will feel like crap without eating meat. This does not in anyway make meat essential. > > > I would truly love to say that these diets are a bunch of rot > myself. I do believe that the meat industry has created a mass > amount of propaganda. I will not jump over the fence and start > eating meat. I am, however, a curious person and I like to explore > both sides. I have on occasion been wrong! I mean, if my friend > says she feels better and I have no scientific or other evidence > otherswise, then I have to believe what she says. Maybe for her > that is her reality and the truth. Maybe for me it's a bunch of > rot. It's hard for me to challenge her personal statement. She > lives in her body and not me. I'm also an open-minded person and > even though it's not for me in any way, who am I to say it's not for > her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 hyperglycemic would be the same thing as diabetic. Hyper means " too much " (kind of like hyperactive for overactive). Hypo means " too little " . I would get it checked out by a doc but be sure to eat every so often and have some hard candy on hand in your purse or pocket to suck on in an emergency when you need some sugar. Megan - Also... hyper or hype glycemic... is there both? I get VERY shakey when i haven't ate in a while. I mean head spinning and can barely hold a glass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 i've actually read " eat right for your type " and the author doesn't necessarily encourage meat consumption. in fact, for two of the blood types (a and ab) he encourages a vegetarian diet. susie --- Megan Milligan <yasminduran wrote: > In psuedo defense of the blood-type diet, I have to > say it's weird. I ran across a copy of it when > i was shopping at whole foods (keep in mind this is > after all the discussion started about this > particular diet), and me being a type-a blood > person, I was curious. So, I picked it up, read it > a bit, and that describes me to a T. :-) > > megan New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 true, but neither does he discourage meat consumption, as any sensible person with the slightest bit of knowledge about nutrition would. I think this particular diet is motivated solely by the desire of the author to make money from selling the book; i don't think he's in cohoots with the meat industry the way some of us suspect atkins may have been. I am even skeptical of that theory. if you want to make money it makes sense to design a diet that tells people what they want to hear; eat steak, no fruit or veggies. , " artichoke72x " <artichoke72x> wrote: > i've actually read " eat right for your type " and the > author doesn't necessarily encourage meat consumption. > in fact, for two of the blood types (a and ab) he > encourages a vegetarian diet. > > susie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 well, i busted out the " eat right for your type " book because it's been several years since i read it. btw, the book was given to me by my boss at one of the health food stores where i worked....i don't follow the diet. i do think it's interesting from an anthropological standpoint. anyway, in the introduction the author (who is blood type a) states that he is actually a VEGETARIAN! he highly recommends that people with all blood types eat lots and lots of fruits and vegetables. so, i dont' think it's meat propaganda. the book actually came out before the atkins diet got popular. but, i dont' doubt he's out to make money. --- dave <dave4sale wrote: > true, but neither does he discourage meat > consumption, as any > sensible person with the slightest bit of knowledge > about nutrition > would. I think this particular diet is motivated > solely by the > desire of the author to make money from selling the > book; i don't > think he's in cohoots with the meat industry the way > some of us > suspect atkins may have been. I am even skeptical of > that theory. if > you want to make money it makes sense to design a > diet that tells > people what they want to hear; eat steak, no fruit > or veggies. New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Has anyone here tried the blood type diet. I am a type A which is thankfully best suited to a veg. diet but it is limiting as it cuts out yet more food choices. If anyone has tried this diet I would love to hear of your experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 I did try it for a short time a few years ago. I lost weight initially and felt SO much better healthwise and not so tired, etc. I do believe it works! On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:06 AM, hollyhedge_2004 <bethbellwrote: > > > Has anyone here tried the blood type diet. I am a type A which is > thankfully best suited to a veg. diet but it is limiting as it cuts out yet > more food choices. > If anyone has tried this diet I would love to hear of your experience. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 I tried it and then I cross referenced it with my Ayurveda type, which really got confusing! Some foods should be avoided on one list but enjoyed freely on the other, so it took a lot of time and experimentation to find a balance. With any type of diet, you really need to listen to your body and weight loss should not be the priority! Weight loss will occur normally when you find the right balance. I think the blood type diet makes a lot of good points and has benefit. The basic point of it is to neutralize your pH balance to an ideal alkaline pH so that your body can function better. You may be interested in the acid/alkaline diet as well. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Holly, I'm glad you brought this up! I was reading about this the other day and was so shocked to see that it really does sound like me! I was really wondering how well it worked. Aside from all the descriptions, it also said to focus on lean meats, fruits, veggies and avoid wheat and dairy! Ha! I'm already on my way! Of course, they also said to get lots of exercise. Blah. Why does everyone keep saying that? Jennifer, I'm so glad to hear it worked for you. Maybe I'll give it a try! Clara I. Ogren-Rubalcaba http://www.sixfoodintolerance.com http://starredcreations.blogspot.com On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Jennifer McCreary < 7wonderfulblessings wrote: > > > I did try it for a short time a few years ago. I lost weight initially and > felt SO much > better healthwise and not so tired, etc. I do believe it works! > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:06 AM, hollyhedge_2004 <bethbell<bethbell%40clear.net.nz> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > Has anyone here tried the blood type diet. I am a type A which is > > thankfully best suited to a veg. diet but it is limiting as it cuts out > yet > > more food choices. > > If anyone has tried this diet I would love to hear of your experience. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Where could I find more details on the blood type diet? I'm type A too. Is there a difference if you are positive or negative? Thanks! --- On Fri, 6/5/09, hollyhedge_2004 <bethbell wrote: hollyhedge_2004 <bethbell Blood type diet Friday, June 5, 2009, 12:06 AM Has anyone here tried the blood type diet. I am a type A which is thankfully best suited to a veg. diet but it is limiting as it cuts out yet more food choices. If anyone has tried this diet I would love to hear of your experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 While it seems to work for some people, it may be for reasons other than blood type per se. Here are some critiques: http://www.vegsource.com/articles/blood_hype.htm http://www.earthsave.org/news/bloodtyp.htm http://www.vegsource.com/klaper/diet.htm Eat Right for Your Type? Excerpt from The Food Revolution: How Your Diet Can Help Save Your Life and Our World John Robbins, Conari Press. (2001: 340pp.) blood type diet The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com, Last Updated: 23.02.09 (Accessed: 13 April 2009) The Blood Type Diet: This popular eating plan ought to be sacked Andrew Weil MD, AARP (September & October 2008) I'm O positive, so according to his theory, I should eat lots of meat. Been there, done that. I'm happier and healthier eating a vegan diet. While I need to avoid dairy products and gluten, as recommended for O types, as most of the articles state, dairy/gluten intolerance occurs in people with other blood types too. :-) Deborah Has anyone here tried the blood type diet. I am a type A which is thankfully best suited to a veg. diet but it is limiting as it cuts out yet more food choices. If anyone has tried this diet I would love to hear of your experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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