Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I posted here some time ago regarding RA and diet. I have had RA for 10 years, have taken anti inflams, Panadol and Codeine in spite of being diagnosed with severe RA have not moved on to methotrexate or the harder drugs. I was diagnosed finally with gluten sensitivity late last year and have stuck to a g/f vegan diet for this year. Am a long time vegetarian who has had too much dairy over the years. My inflammation rate is normal but I still flare, quite severely but they only last 24 hrs. I am still flaring quite frequently. Is this pattern familiar to anyone. I dont quite understand what is happening. Also I have low grade infections which I believe are common to RA but would like to boost my immune system to stop this happening. Any advice for me please. Sherene I read your post on RA with interest and wonder if I am not getting enough nutrients. I have quite a small appetite, a lot of fatigue and while I am g/f and vegan dont take in a lot of food. I dont think I would feel happy about taking fish oil from an ethical position - I am not convinced fish oil is healthy anyway but it does cross my mind at times, pain can be so wearying. Can you tell me what you would eat over a few days please. Any help from here would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 On Jun 20, 2009, at 12:18 AM, hollyhedge_2004 wrote: > Sherene I read your post on RA with interest and wonder if I am not > getting enough nutrients. I have quite a small appetite, a lot of > fatigue and while I am g/f and vegan dont take in a lot of food. > I dont think I would feel happy about taking fish oil from an > ethical position - I am not convinced fish oil is healthy anyway but > it does cross my mind at times, pain can be so wearying. Can you > tell me what you would eat over a few days please. > Any help from here would be appreciated. ============ I can only comment on what I do per Dr Fuhrman's prescription. I know it worked for me. I have normal blood tests and the only time I flare is if I eat one of the forbidden foods. If I skip the fish oil (like I tried to do on and off this year), my asthma flares, I develop bad seasonal allergies, I struggle with allergic folliculitis, my dry eye becomes very bad, I sink into a deep depression and I get sore joints. I've tried vegan DHA and it made no difference. my quality of life is so poor without the fish oil that I overcame my ethical objections to the stuff here's my daily diet. ====== Breakfast - a smoothie. I am a boring eater and eat the same breakfast day after day. I make a huge smoothie in a Vitamix. 1 cup each frozen blueberries and cherries 8 oz frozen spinach third of a bunch of watercress (add far less if you are new to the stuff) 1 tablespoon flax, chia or hemp seeds water to get things moving. I crave this smoothie. I switch out the spinach for kale or collards sometimes. plus a glass of juiced cruciferous greens. I make up a quart at a time. I generally use kale, collards, beet, some grapes, an apple, celery and cucumber LUNCH - salad made from finely shredded spring mix, arugula and watercress. Shredded red cabbage. Spring onion or vidalia onion, sometimes broccoli slaw. sliced banana and some raw sunflower seeds. I like to dress it with a dressing I make by blending 1 cup water, 1/2 cup cashews, 2 tablespoons sodium free dijon mustard, 4 tablespoons lemon juice, some roasted garlic. this makes enough dressing for a week. Soup made with cruciferous greens. DINNER tonight I had warm curried cauliflower salad with the same salad as lunch but this time I used an apple, not a banana. Last night I had a great mushroom stew with the same salad but this time dressed it with a pea and cilantro dressing and added avocado to it. used my fruit in a mango sorbet ( just pureed frozen mango with banana) The night before I made aloo gobi burgers (but subbed the potato with cauliflower) on a bed of arugula and watercress with a mango and cilantro dressing drink a glass of cruciferous juice as I make dinner Am fasting for the next three days. I try to fast every 2-3 weeks. just drink water. it does wonders for inflammation. I had some cake this week and my hands are hurting from the sugar. a short fast will fix it very quickly. Does that help? Shez -- Giving you the latest news and information about homeschooling http://www.examiner.com/x-10127-Norfolk-Homeschooling-Examiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 -Thanks so much Sherene. I try to take in 5 or 6 fruit and veg a day but your intake seems to be much higher. I will try to up my fruit and veg. I am so attached to food, sigh. How long have you been in remission. I also have been looking at LDN after my dr. recommended it but I am so wary of medication it will be a last resort. Where do you get your recipes from. Are they from the files here. Do you eat pulses, any grains at all. I need some mainmeal suggestions please if possible. Thanks again. Many thanks. -- In , Sherene Silverberg <sherene wrote: > > > On Jun 20, 2009, at 12:18 AM, hollyhedge_2004 wrote: > > > Sherene I read your post on RA with interest and wonder if I am not > > getting enough nutrients. I have quite a small appetite, a lot of > > fatigue and while I am g/f and vegan dont take in a lot of food. > > I dont think I would feel happy about taking fish oil from an > > ethical position - I am not convinced fish oil is healthy anyway but > > it does cross my mind at times, pain can be so wearying. Can you > > tell me what you would eat over a few days please. > > Any help from here would be appreciated. > ============ > > I can only comment on what I do per Dr Fuhrman's prescription. I know > it worked for me. I have normal blood tests and the only time I flare > is if I eat one of the forbidden foods. If I skip the fish oil (like > I tried to do on and off this year), my asthma flares, I develop bad > seasonal allergies, I struggle with allergic folliculitis, my dry eye > becomes very bad, I sink into a deep depression and I get sore > joints. I've tried vegan DHA and it made no difference. my quality > of life is so poor without the fish oil that I overcame my ethical > objections to the stuff > > here's my daily diet. > ====== > > Breakfast - a smoothie. I am a boring eater and eat the same breakfast > day after day. > I make a huge smoothie in a Vitamix. > 1 cup each frozen blueberries and cherries > 8 oz frozen spinach > third of a bunch of watercress (add far less if you are new to the > stuff) > 1 tablespoon flax, chia or hemp seeds > water to get things moving. > > I crave this smoothie. I switch out the spinach for kale or collards > sometimes. > > plus a glass of juiced cruciferous greens. I make up a quart at a > time. I generally use kale, collards, beet, some grapes, an apple, > celery and cucumber > > LUNCH - salad made from finely shredded spring mix, arugula and > watercress. Shredded red cabbage. Spring onion or vidalia onion, > sometimes broccoli slaw. sliced banana and some raw sunflower seeds. I > like to dress it with a dressing I make by blending 1 cup water, 1/2 > cup cashews, 2 tablespoons sodium free dijon mustard, 4 tablespoons > lemon juice, some roasted garlic. this makes enough dressing for a > week. > > Soup made with cruciferous greens. > > DINNER > tonight I had warm curried cauliflower salad with the same salad as > lunch but this time I used an apple, not a banana. > > Last night I had a great mushroom stew with the same salad but this > time dressed it with a pea and cilantro dressing and added avocado to > it. > used my fruit in a mango sorbet ( just pureed frozen mango with banana) > > The night before I made aloo gobi burgers (but subbed the potato with > cauliflower) on a bed of arugula and watercress with a mango and > cilantro dressing > > drink a glass of cruciferous juice as I make dinner > > Am fasting for the next three days. I try to fast every 2-3 weeks. > just drink water. it does wonders for inflammation. I had some cake > this week and my hands are hurting from the sugar. a short fast will > fix it very quickly. > > Does that help? > > Shez > -- > Giving you the latest news and information about homeschooling > http://www.examiner.com/x-10127-Norfolk-Homeschooling-Examiner > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 On Jun 20, 2009, at 1:14 AM, hollyhedge_2004 wrote: > -Thanks so much Sherene. > I try to take in 5 or 6 fruit and veg a day but your intake seems to > be much higher. I will try to up my fruit and veg. I am so attached > to food, sigh. > How long have you been in remission. > I also have been looking at LDN after my dr. recommended it but I am > so wary of medication it will be a last resort. > Where do you get your recipes from. Are they from the files here. > Do you eat pulses, any grains at all. > I need some mainmeal suggestions please if possible. > Thanks again. > Many thanks. >> ======================= my fruit intake is limited to 3 fruits a day (the two cups of berries in my morning smoothie count as one fruit) and I try to stick to low GI fruits. The key to treating RA with food is a very high intake of cruciferous veg. you need to juice them as well as it is impossible to eat as much as you need. you need to saturate your body's tissues with phytonutrients. The nutrients from cruciferous veg heal dna damage I don't eat grains iin the normal course of my life because I am supersensitive to them. I'll only eat them one in a while. I do eat beans, but I keep them to less than a cup a day and don't eat them daily. There were beans in some of the dinner meals I listed. I find beans can give me problems if I eat too many of them. Shez -- Giving you the latest news and information about homeschooling http://www.examiner.com/x-10127-Norfolk-Homeschooling-Examiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 Hi, I haven't posted here ever...I'm always trying to gain knowledge and learn from others experiences. I'm also on the " LDN lowdosenaltrexone " . I always see many people posting about RA. I'm on there bc of MS but I have read that LDN has helped many RA sufferers. LDN is for cancer & many other autoimmune diseases incl. autism. Seems to be a fascinating discovery. I've been on LDN for about a week so it is too soon to tell you if I feel better. I need to give it some months to take charge. Sorry I can't give you much more info for I am still learning & wouldn't want to mislead you. You can also google " LDN and RA " to see what type of info you get or sign up to that . I believe you'll learn lots for there's many there that have lots of knowledge to help you & answer your questions. Make sure you research LDN & if you decide to start on it maybe alot of your pain will be alleviated. Just don't give up hope. Hang in there. Oh and you'll get lots of info on the types of food diet you can do to benefit your situation. God Bless~ Eleni , " hollyhedge_2004 " <bethbell wrote: > > I posted here some time ago regarding RA and diet. I have had RA for 10 years, have taken anti inflams, Panadol and Codeine in spite of being diagnosed with severe RA have not moved on to methotrexate or the harder drugs. I was diagnosed finally with gluten sensitivity late last year and have stuck to a g/f vegan diet for this year. Am a long time vegetarian who has had too much dairy over the years. My inflammation rate is normal but I still flare, quite severely but they only last 24 hrs. I am still flaring quite frequently. Is this pattern familiar to anyone. I dont quite understand what is happening. > Also I have low grade infections which I believe are common to RA but would like to boost my immune system to stop this happening. Any advice for me please. > Sherene I read your post on RA with interest and wonder if I am not getting enough nutrients. I have quite a small appetite, a lot of fatigue and while I am g/f and vegan dont take in a lot of food. > I dont think I would feel happy about taking fish oil from an ethical position - I am not convinced fish oil is healthy anyway but it does cross my mind at times, pain can be so wearying. Can you tell me what you would eat over a few days please. > Any help from here would be appreciated. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2009 Report Share Posted June 22, 2009 > I don't think I would feel happy about taking fish oil from an ethical position - I am not convinced fish oil is healthy anyway but it does cross my mind at times, pain can be so wearying. Fish oil is recommended for the omega fatty acids. Hemp contains all the omegas and is a healthy vegan alternative to fish oil. I drink chocolate hemp milk for the omegas. As for inflammation, lemon tea in the morning and valerian root tablets before bed help me a lot. Sometimes I take the valerian in the afternoon as well if the pain gets really bad. I have unexplainable cronic pain in all the bones of my right leg, all my joints, and pain is spreading to other bones. Before I started taking the valerian I couldn't stand or walk most days for the pain! http://www.wonderlabs.com/muscle-spasms/index.html Vitamin C, Vitamin E and Selenium where recommended to me by my GI doctor. I have not found a vegan vitamin E as a stand alone pill. I had an unusual reaction to selenium so I can't take that. Vitamin C does help the immune system. Echinasea tea when you feel something coming on will boost you immune system to help fight it off. You don't want to use it continuously though because it will become ineffective after about 3 months of continuous use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I will up my cruciferous veg and try your diet Sherene. Also like the sound of Valerian for pain - I have some valerian for insomnia, didnt think about pain relief. Is the lemon tea you mention Jae lemon slices in hot water or similar? LDN I am not so sure about. Dont feel there has been enough research regarding LDN - it sounds great but..... I will exhaust natural methods first and see how it goes. From all the books and research I have read on RA it seems to me the common denominator for a cure is a diet high in nutrients even though there are variations in the diets. Thanks again everyone, always good advice and support from this site. , Jae Jones <recyclednew wrote: > > > I don't think I would feel happy about taking fish oil from an ethical > position - I am not convinced fish oil is healthy anyway but it does cross > my mind at times, pain can be so wearying. > > > Fish oil is recommended for the omega fatty acids. Hemp contains all the > omegas and is a healthy vegan alternative to fish oil. I drink chocolate > hemp milk for the omegas. > > > As for inflammation, lemon tea in the morning and valerian root tablets > before bed help me a lot. Sometimes I take the valerian in the afternoon as > well if the pain gets really bad. I have unexplainable cronic pain in all > the bones of my right leg, all my joints, and pain is spreading to other > bones. Before I started taking the valerian I couldn't stand or walk most > days for the pain! http://www.wonderlabs.com/muscle-spasms/index.html > > Vitamin C, Vitamin E and Selenium where recommended to me by my GI doctor. I > have not found a vegan vitamin E as a stand alone pill. I had an unusual > reaction to selenium so I can't take that. Vitamin C does help the immune > system. Echinasea tea when you feel something coming on will boost you > immune system to help fight it off. You don't want to use it continuously > though because it will become ineffective after about 3 months of continuous > use. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I usually just buy lemon herbal tea bags, but you could make your own tea with fresh lemons. You could also drink a glass of cold water with lemon juice squeezed into it, if you prefer it that way. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:03 AM, hollyhedge_2004 <bethbellwrote: > > > Thanks everyone for your suggestions. > I will up my cruciferous veg and try your diet Sherene. > Also like the sound of Valerian for pain - I have some valerian for > insomnia, didnt think about pain relief. Is the lemon tea you mention Jae > lemon slices in hot water or similar? > LDN I am not so sure about. Dont feel there has been enough research > regarding LDN - it sounds great but..... I will exhaust natural methods > first and see how it goes. > From all the books and research I have read on RA it seems to me the common > denominator for a cure is a diet high in nutrients even though there are > variations in the diets. > Thanks again everyone, always good advice and support from this site. > > > --- In <%40>, > Jae Jones <recyclednew wrote: > > > > > I don't think I would feel happy about taking fish oil from an ethical > > position - I am not convinced fish oil is healthy anyway but it does > cross > > my mind at times, pain can be so wearying. > > > > > > Fish oil is recommended for the omega fatty acids. Hemp contains all the > > omegas and is a healthy vegan alternative to fish oil. I drink chocolate > > hemp milk for the omegas. > > > > > > As for inflammation, lemon tea in the morning and valerian root tablets > > before bed help me a lot. Sometimes I take the valerian in the afternoon > as > > well if the pain gets really bad. I have unexplainable cronic pain in all > > the bones of my right leg, all my joints, and pain is spreading to other > > bones. Before I started taking the valerian I couldn't stand or walk most > > days for the pain! http://www.wonderlabs.com/muscle-spasms/index.html > > > > Vitamin C, Vitamin E and Selenium where recommended to me by my GI > doctor. I > > have not found a vegan vitamin E as a stand alone pill. I had an unusual > > reaction to selenium so I can't take that. Vitamin C does help the immune > > system. Echinasea tea when you feel something coming on will boost you > > immune system to help fight it off. You don't want to use it continuously > > though because it will become ineffective after about 3 months of > continuous > > use. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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