Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Look at this article... They call gluten " the new cholesterol. " ? http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/07/06/betty-crocker-launches-new-gluten-free-\ deserts?icid=webmail|wbml-aim|dl4|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.walletpop.com%2Fblog%2F\ 2009%2F07%2F06%2Fbetty-crocker-launches-new-gluten-free-deserts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 That was a very good article, amazingly good coming from a mainstream commercial source! That gives me a lot of hope! They even hint at a favourite theory of mine: that the reason diets like Atkins and South Beach help some people is not because they are " low carb " , it is because they are essentially gluten free. Gluten being the " new cholesterol " is an interesting comparison. I've been thinking similarly, only in my mind, gluten is the new B12. :-) What I mean by that is, we had to fight for years to get vegetarians to believe that vitamin B12 was a necessary supplement. We have made significant general progress in that area and now gluten is coming forward as the next issue that needs a similar degree of attention. As the article details, there are still many people suffering it's consequences without any idea that it is their problem. Deborah Look at this article... They call gluten " the new cholesterol. " ? http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/07/06/betty-crocker-launches-new-gluten-free-\ deserts?icid=webmail|wbml-aim|dl4|link6|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.walletpop.com%2Fblog%2F\ 2009%2F07%2F06%2Fbetty-crocker-launches-new-gluten-free-deserts . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a grossly negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for many people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image driven diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten was a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had to go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed to the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with people and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've had people make comments like this to me! I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife is celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some garden burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to him that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this is not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound like a joke and a Hollywood Fad! It's Not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 No, it doesn't mean that at all. The statement " gluten is the new cholesterol " is just a manner of speaking. Society seems to wake up as a group to issues. It just means that there was a period of time when our society became more and more aware of cholesterol as a health issue. During that phase, we learned the what, how, when, where and why of it pretty well. Now that that is done, gluten is coming to the fore in the collective consciousness. So, let's be glad that is happening. :-) It's about time. :-) Deborah So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a grossly negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for many people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image driven diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten was a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had to go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed to the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with people and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've had people make comments like this to me! I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife is celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some garden burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to him that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this is not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound like a joke and a Hollywood Fad! It's Not!! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'm sorry you took offense to that article... I certainly wouldn't have posted it if I had thought it was anything other than encouraging!? I am delighted to see people sitting up and taking notice...? And I am thankful that more and more options are becoming available for those who want to avoid gluten.? I think the article made a good point....? I took it to mean that a generation ago cholesterol was a huge health concern.? Today, gluten is becoming the new, huge health concern.? More and more people have genuine gluten intolerances AND it is being recognized as a legitimate problem by the medical community. I don't socialize in gluten-free circles, but I am meeting more and more people who have gluten issues... Not Celiac disease, but gluten intolerances...? My sister developped it first, then my baby, then my best friend's baby (who lives several states away), my father in law, my friend's mother, my neighbor's sons, a lady we go to church with, the sons of another friend of mine who live in Australia...? I've heard that our wheat has changed over the past 100 years... I don't know for sure if that's true or not, but something is going on because it is becoming more and more common.? I've been telling my father in law for a few years now that I think he has a gluten intolerance (not celiac... just an intolerance) and he has been mocking me.? (He is French and he likes his bread!)? And guess what... His doctor JUST diagnosed him as being gluten intolerant... and he problem has been all his life.? The man is 70 years old and he is only now being diagnosed...? One day I was frustrated with not knowing what to cook for my children and I set my facebook status to " Gluten-Free is taking over the world " ? I couldn't believe the response I got!? Lots and lots people were having gluten issues or knew someone who can't have gluten. As for doctors, you have to realize that they are experts in medication... not in nutrition.? The same doctor who diagnosed my son's gluten intolerance was *very* concerned about our vegan lifestyle.? She wanted to know where the baby gets his protein from.? I told her beans and nuts and she seriously said to me, " There is no protein in beans. " ? Uhhh...? Apparently my doctor missed they day they taught basic nutrition in her medical school!? And this was a specialist! Anyway, people will be people.? As a vegan you have probably gotten the " just a little won't hurt " line over and over again. ? They just need to have it explained to them.? They truly don't know. Alina Joy Deborah Pageau <dpageau Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57 pm Re: Betty Crocker No, it doesn't mean that at all. The statement " gluten is the new cholesterol " is just a manner of speaking. Society seems to wake up as a group to issues. It just means that there was a period of time when our society became more and more aware of cholesterol as a health issue. During that phase, we learned the what, how, when, where and why of it pretty well. Now that that is done, gluten is coming to the fore in the collective consciousness. So, let's be glad that is happening. :-) It's about time. :-) Deborah So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a grossly negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for many people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image driven diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten was a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had to go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed to the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with people and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've had people make comments like this to me! I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife is celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some garden burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to him that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this is not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound like a joke and a Hollywood Fad! It's Not!! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 My husband had a nutritionist (not one he went to for a consultation, just someone he met at an event) tell him that he couldn't be getting enough protein on a vegetarian diet (and he is lacto ovo) and needed to add meat or fish into his diet. Good grief! I also have an increasing number of people in my circle with gluten intolerance. When we put my son on gluten-free, we found out that hubby and I were both gluten intolerant as well (and DS is adopted, so none of us are blood related). My dad has discovered that he is gluten intolerant (I think he and I are actually celiac), and I suspect my one brother is as well. His wife has been trying to feed him gluten-free, as she believes one of their children is gluten intolerant. A cousin on my mother's side is gluten intolerant, I think celiac. My husband's niece has found out that her daughter is gluten-intolerant, with a bunch of other allergies. And the niece is adopted, so she is not blood-related either! Pam On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:01 PM, <alinajoydubois wrote: > > As for doctors, you have to realize that they are experts in medication... > not in nutrition.? The same doctor who diagnosed my son's gluten intolerance > was *very* concerned about our vegan lifestyle.? She wanted to know where > the baby gets his protein from.? I told her beans and nuts and she seriously > said to me, " There is no protein in beans. " ? Uhhh...? Apparently my doctor > missed they day they taught basic nutrition in her medical school!? And this > was a specialist! > > Anyway, people will be people.? As a vegan you have probably gotten the > " just a little won't hurt " line over and over again. ? They just need to > have it explained to them.? They truly don't know. > > Alina Joy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I misinterpreted the cholesterol thing. Sorry for that. The article itself seemed to have a joking tone to it. I forwarded it to some friends/family without saying anything to influence them in any way, and they all wrote back asking is this suppose to be a joke? So I'm not the only one who got that impression from the article! I'm not offended that you posted it and I'm glad you did. Gluten is a serious issue and I'm thrilled that it is becoming more and more in the forefront of things and major companies are stepping up to the plate to bring us products that we can enjoy with are families and friends. I'm sure the article was not intended to sound like a joke. Whoever wrote it was probably quite sincere. Their writing style, however, came across as a SNL kind of joke news report. Because we deal with the issue nonstop and know how serious and real it is, we know it's not a joke! People who do not deal with it on a daily basis and know little or nothing about it can read an article like this one and think it's a joke and then when dealing with someone like us later, will discredit the seriousness of the problem! That is what bothers me! Your right about doctors knowing nothing about nutrition! It infuriates me as a HHP who has studied nutrition in depth, yet legally I have to tell a client to consult with their PCP before starting a diet! I have studied on my own in depth about foods that react with medications, and herb-drug interactions, etc. Yet a doctor who had one or two days of " this is the food pyramid and adults should have about 2000 calories a day,etc " , is somehow more qualified to give nutritional and dietary advice? Oh, and did you know you can eat fish because it's not technically meat. That's why it's ok during lent! I actually was told that by a doctor! It's the only non meat protein source! I just said ok and left! I didn't even want to get started with him because I think I would have killed him! I hate doctors! I could write a book about all the things that made me hate them! I will leave it alone for now though! Yes wheat has changed and corn is becoming a major problem now too. During WWII there was a shortage of wheat and sweat potato flour was being used instead of wheat flour. This triggered genetic/evolutionary changes to start. It's complicated and difficult to explain. Basically our cells have memories and our parents/grandparents who lived through the shortage passed on the cell memories to us to adapt to the dietary changes, because our cells didn't know the shortage was temporary. That was part of the problem. The other part was scientist started playing around with the wheat trying to clone it and make it grow faster so there wouldn't be a shortage again. They have been doing this with corn now too! That's going to be our next epidemic! I think scientist manipulating our food supplies is the biggest problem contributing to food allergies/intolerance's! It's not just wheat and corn either! Egg allergies are really high now too. I'm sure all those hormones and whatnot we pump into chickens are a big part of that! I've heard of lots of people having problems with meat. I know this is a vegan group and most of us don't eat these things, but we do know people who do and it is an issue that we face at least on a moral level! My family has always been a meat and potato kind of people and my grandmother grew up on a farm, which was a small family, humane farm. They didn't use all those chemicals back then and you didn't see obesity, cancer, diabetes, ect as common everyday things. My family still eats the same basic foods my grandparents and great grandparents ate, but all these health problems plague my family now! They are always complaining of diarrhea, gas, bloating, nausea, inability to loose weight, aches and pains, diabetes, headaches, high blood pressure, etc. They are all unwilling to change what they eat, so the choose to suffer! The point is, for at least the past 5 generations, except for me, the diet of my family has been pretty consistent. Even 2 generations ago they where fairly healthy people most of their lives. My grandmother is still alive and at 80, but she has developed a lot a problems over the past 20 or so years. Since her diet has been consistent all those years, you have to look at the food supply and how it has changed! We are our own worst enemy! Man will be the destruction of mankind! On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:01 AM, <alinajoydubois wrote: > > > > I'm sorry you took offense to that article... I certainly wouldn't have > posted it if I had thought it was anything other than encouraging!? I am > delighted to see people sitting up and taking notice...? And I am thankful > that more and more options are becoming available for those who want to > avoid gluten.? I think the article made a good point....? I took it to mean > that a generation ago cholesterol was a huge health concern.? Today, gluten > is becoming the new, huge health concern.? More and more people have genuine > gluten intolerances AND it is being recognized as a legitimate problem by > the medical community. I don't socialize in gluten-free circles, but I am > meeting more and more people who have gluten issues... Not Celiac disease, > but gluten intolerances...? My sister developped it first, then my baby, > then my best friend's baby (who lives several states away), my father in > law, my friend's mother, my neighbor's sons, a lady we go to church with, > the sons of another friend of mine who live in Australia...? I've heard that > our wheat has changed over the past 100 years... I don't know for sure if > that's true or not, but something is going on because it is becoming more > and more common.? I've been telling my father > in law for a few years now that I think he has a gluten intolerance > (not celiac... just an intolerance) and he has been mocking me.? (He is > French and he likes his bread!)? And guess what... His doctor JUST > diagnosed him as being gluten intolerant... and he problem has been all > his life.? The man is 70 years old and he is only now being > diagnosed...? > > One day I was frustrated with not knowing what to cook for my children and > I set my facebook status to " Gluten-Free is taking over the world " ? I > couldn't believe the response I got!? Lots and lots people were having > gluten issues or knew someone who can't have gluten. > > As for doctors, you have to realize that they are experts in medication... > not in nutrition.? The same doctor who diagnosed my son's gluten intolerance > was *very* concerned about our vegan lifestyle.? She wanted to know where > the baby gets his protein from.? I told her beans and nuts and she seriously > said to me, " There is no protein in beans. " ? Uhhh...? Apparently my doctor > missed they day they taught basic nutrition in her medical school!? And this > was a specialist! > > Anyway, people will be people.? As a vegan you have probably gotten the > " just a little won't hurt " line over and over again. ? They just need to > have it explained to them.? They truly don't know. > > Alina Joy > > > > Deborah Pageau <dpageau <dpageau%40dccnet.com>> > To: <%40> > Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57 pm > Re: Betty Crocker > > No, it doesn't mean that at all. The statement " gluten is the new > cholesterol " is just a manner of speaking. Society seems to wake up as a > group to issues. It just means that there was a period of time when our > society became more and more aware of cholesterol as a health issue. During > that phase, we learned the what, how, when, where and why of it pretty well. > Now that that is done, gluten is coming to the fore in the collective > consciousness. So, let's be glad that is happening. :-) > > It's about time. :-) > > Deborah > > So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my > > cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a grossly > > negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for many > > people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! > > I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest > > Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image > driven > > diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten was > > a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had to > > go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a > > comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to > > loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on > > that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from > > proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed > to > > the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with > people > > and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't > > hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've > had > > people make comments like this to me! > > I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife is > > celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some > garden > > burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to > him > > that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems > > until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this is > > not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! > > I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound > like > > a joke and a Hollywood Fad! > > It's Not!! > > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 My son just started a gluten free diet and has been doing so much better (he's 21 month old - and is now putting on more weight to along w his height) any way - I get that line all the time 'just a little won't hurt' (from family mainly) what are some nice ways to combat/explain this gently? I have tried to do a lot of research but am still a little confused! (ex like the 'hidden' ingredients for gluten in products ) any suggestions ? Thanks! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld alinajoydubois Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:01:50 Re: Betty Crocker I'm sorry you took offense to that article... I certainly wouldn't have posted it if I had thought it was anything other than encouraging!? I am delighted to see people sitting up and taking notice...? And I am thankful that more and more options are becoming available for those who want to avoid gluten.? I think the article made a good point....? I took it to mean that a generation ago cholesterol was a huge health concern.? Today, gluten is becoming the new, huge health concern.? More and more people have genuine gluten intolerances AND it is being recognized as a legitimate problem by the medical community. I don't socialize in gluten-free circles, but I am meeting more and more people who have gluten issues... Not Celiac disease, but gluten intolerances...? My sister developped it first, then my baby, then my best friend's baby (who lives several states away), my father in law, my friend's mother, my neighbor's sons, a lady we go to church with, the sons of another friend of mine who live in Australia...? I've heard that our wheat has changed over the past 100 years... I don't know for sure if that's true or not, but something is going on because it is becoming more and more common.? I've been telling my father in law for a few years now that I think he has a gluten intolerance (not celiac... just an intolerance) and he has been mocking me.? (He is French and he likes his bread!)? And guess what... His doctor JUST diagnosed him as being gluten intolerant... and he problem has been all his life.? The man is 70 years old and he is only now being diagnosed...? One day I was frustrated with not knowing what to cook for my children and I set my facebook status to " Gluten-Free is taking over the world " ? I couldn't believe the response I got!? Lots and lots people were having gluten issues or knew someone who can't have gluten. As for doctors, you have to realize that they are experts in medication... not in nutrition.? The same doctor who diagnosed my son's gluten intolerance was *very* concerned about our vegan lifestyle.? She wanted to know where the baby gets his protein from.? I told her beans and nuts and she seriously said to me, " There is no protein in beans. " ? Uhhh...? Apparently my doctor missed they day they taught basic nutrition in her medical school!? And this was a specialist! Anyway, people will be people.? As a vegan you have probably gotten the " just a little won't hurt " line over and over again. ? They just need to have it explained to them.? They truly don't know. Alina Joy Deborah Pageau <dpageau Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57 pm Re: Betty Crocker No, it doesn't mean that at all. The statement " gluten is the new cholesterol " is just a manner of speaking. Society seems to wake up as a group to issues. It just means that there was a period of time when our society became more and more aware of cholesterol as a health issue. During that phase, we learned the what, how, when, where and why of it pretty well. Now that that is done, gluten is coming to the fore in the collective consciousness. So, let's be glad that is happening. :-) It's about time. :-) Deborah So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a grossly negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for many people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image driven diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten was a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had to go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed to the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with people and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've had people make comments like this to me! I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife is celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some garden burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to him that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this is not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound like a joke and a Hollywood Fad! It's Not!! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 When people say something along the lines of, " Oh, it just has a little soy in it, " or " Oh, it just has a bit of wheat, " my husband (when he's present) usually replies, " Unfortunately, just a little bit of ____ for Sally is like saying just a little bit of arsenic. " He says it nicely. People get the point. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM, <tbozek77 wrote: > My son just started a gluten free diet and has been doing so much better > (he's 21 month old - and is now putting on more weight to along w his > height) any way - I get that line all the time 'just a little won't hurt' > (from family mainly) what are some nice ways to combat/explain this gently? > > I have tried to do a lot of research but am still a little confused! (ex > like the 'hidden' ingredients for gluten in products ) any suggestions ? > > Thanks! > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > > alinajoydubois > > Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:01:50 > > Re: Betty Crocker > > > > I'm sorry you took offense to that article... I certainly wouldn't have > posted it if I had thought it was anything other than encouraging!? I am > delighted to see people sitting up and taking notice...? And I am thankful > that more and more options are becoming available for those who want to > avoid gluten.? I think the article made a good point....? I took it to mean > that a generation ago cholesterol was a huge health concern.? Today, gluten > is becoming the new, huge health concern.? More and more people have genuine > gluten intolerances AND it is being recognized as a legitimate problem by > the medical community. I don't socialize in gluten-free circles, but I am > meeting more and more people who have gluten issues... Not Celiac disease, > but gluten intolerances...? My sister developped it first, then my baby, > then my best friend's baby (who lives several states away), my father in > law, my friend's mother, my neighbor's sons, a lady we go to church with, > the sons of another friend of mine who live in Australia...? I've heard that > our wheat has changed over the past 100 years... I don't know for sure if > that's true or not, but something is going on because it is becoming more > and more common.? I've been telling my father > in law for a few years now that I think he has a gluten intolerance > (not celiac... just an intolerance) and he has been mocking me.? (He is > French and he likes his bread!)? And guess what... His doctor JUST > diagnosed him as being gluten intolerant... and he problem has been all > his life.? The man is 70 years old and he is only now being > diagnosed...? > > One day I was frustrated with not knowing what to cook for my children and > I set my facebook status to " Gluten-Free is taking over the world " ? I > couldn't believe the response I got!? Lots and lots people were having > gluten issues or knew someone who can't have gluten. > > As for doctors, you have to realize that they are experts in medication... > not in nutrition.? The same doctor who diagnosed my son's gluten intolerance > was *very* concerned about our vegan lifestyle.? She wanted to know where > the baby gets his protein from.? I told her beans and nuts and she seriously > said to me, " There is no protein in beans. " ? Uhhh...? Apparently my doctor > missed they day they taught basic nutrition in her medical school!? And this > was a specialist! > > Anyway, people will be people.? As a vegan you have probably gotten the > " just a little won't hurt " line over and over again. ? They just need to > have it explained to them.? They truly don't know. > > Alina Joy > > Deborah Pageau <dpageau > > Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57 pm > Re: Betty Crocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it doesn't mean that at all. The statement " gluten is the new > cholesterol " is just a manner of speaking. Society seems to wake up as a > group to issues. It just means that there was a period of time when our > society became more and more aware of cholesterol as a health issue. During > that phase, we learned the what, how, when, where and why of it pretty well. > Now that that is done, gluten is coming to the fore in the collective > consciousness. So, let's be glad that is happening. :-) > > > > It's about time. :-) > > > > Deborah > > > > So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my > > cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a > grossly > > negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for > many > > people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! > > > > I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest > > Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image > driven > > diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten > was > > a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had > to > > go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a > > comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to > > loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on > > that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from > > proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed > to > > the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with > people > > and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't > > hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've > had > > people make comments like this to me! > > I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife > is > > celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some > garden > > burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to > him > > that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems > > until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this is > > not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! > > > > I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound > like > > a joke and a Hollywood Fad! > > It's Not!! > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 well said. -------------- Original message ---------------------- Sally Parrott Ashbrook <sally.parrott > > When people say something along the lines of, " Oh, it just has a little soy > in it, " or " Oh, it just has a bit of wheat, " my husband (when he's present) > usually replies, " Unfortunately, just a little bit of ____ for Sally is like > saying just a little bit of arsenic. " He says it nicely. People get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 For all your friends and family who just don't think it's that big a deal, forward this link to them! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC0nHFblLcE & feature=related Hidden ingredients are becoming a lot less hidden. Labeling is becoming less obscure. You may see Modified Food Starch (Wheat), and that tells you there's gluten in it. The biggies to watch out for are Natural Flavors, Soy Sauce (unless it specifies wheat free), and Food starches that are not identified, and malt (ie. barley malt, malt flavoring). Also look under the ingredients for " manufactured on shared equipment " disclosures. When in doubt, don't get it. Most companies will try to answer you questions and let you know if a product is safe if you call them. Many of the people answering phones are complete idiots and don't have a clue. If you call and have to explain what gluten is, play it safe and don't buy the product. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:59 PM, <tbozek77 wrote: > My son just started a gluten free diet and has been doing so much better > (he's 21 month old - and is now putting on more weight to along w his > height) any way - I get that line all the time 'just a little won't hurt' > (from family mainly) what are some nice ways to combat/explain this gently? > > I have tried to do a lot of research but am still a little confused! (ex > like the 'hidden' ingredients for gluten in products ) any suggestions ? > > Thanks! > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > > alinajoydubois > > Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:01:50 > > Re: Betty Crocker > > > > I'm sorry you took offense to that article... I certainly wouldn't have > posted it if I had thought it was anything other than encouraging!? I am > delighted to see people sitting up and taking notice...? And I am thankful > that more and more options are becoming available for those who want to > avoid gluten.? I think the article made a good point....? I took it to mean > that a generation ago cholesterol was a huge health concern.? Today, gluten > is becoming the new, huge health concern.? More and more people have genuine > gluten intolerances AND it is being recognized as a legitimate problem by > the medical community. I don't socialize in gluten-free circles, but I am > meeting more and more people who have gluten issues... Not Celiac disease, > but gluten intolerances...? My sister developped it first, then my baby, > then my best friend's baby (who lives several states away), my father in > law, my friend's mother, my neighbor's sons, a lady we go to church with, > the sons of another friend of mine who live in Australia...? I've heard that > our wheat has changed over the past 100 years... I don't know for sure if > that's true or not, but something is going on because it is becoming more > and more common.? I've been telling my father > in law for a few years now that I think he has a gluten intolerance > (not celiac... just an intolerance) and he has been mocking me.? (He is > French and he likes his bread!)? And guess what... His doctor JUST > diagnosed him as being gluten intolerant... and he problem has been all > his life.? The man is 70 years old and he is only now being > diagnosed...? > > One day I was frustrated with not knowing what to cook for my children and > I set my facebook status to " Gluten-Free is taking over the world " ? I > couldn't believe the response I got!? Lots and lots people were having > gluten issues or knew someone who can't have gluten. > > As for doctors, you have to realize that they are experts in medication... > not in nutrition.? The same doctor who diagnosed my son's gluten intolerance > was *very* concerned about our vegan lifestyle.? She wanted to know where > the baby gets his protein from.? I told her beans and nuts and she seriously > said to me, " There is no protein in beans. " ? Uhhh...? Apparently my doctor > missed they day they taught basic nutrition in her medical school!? And this > was a specialist! > > Anyway, people will be people.? As a vegan you have probably gotten the > " just a little won't hurt " line over and over again. ? They just need to > have it explained to them.? They truly don't know. > > Alina Joy > > Deborah Pageau <dpageau > > Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57 pm > Re: Betty Crocker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it doesn't mean that at all. The statement " gluten is the new > cholesterol " is just a manner of speaking. Society seems to wake up as a > group to issues. It just means that there was a period of time when our > society became more and more aware of cholesterol as a health issue. During > that phase, we learned the what, how, when, where and why of it pretty well. > Now that that is done, gluten is coming to the fore in the collective > consciousness. So, let's be glad that is happening. :-) > > > > It's about time. :-) > > > > Deborah > > > > So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my > > cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a > grossly > > negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for > many > > people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! > > > > I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest > > Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image > driven > > diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten > was > > a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had > to > > go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a > > comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to > > loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on > > that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from > > proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed > to > > the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with > people > > and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't > > hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've > had > > people make comments like this to me! > > I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife > is > > celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some > garden > > burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to > him > > that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems > > until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this is > > not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! > > > > I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound > like > > a joke and a Hollywood Fad! > > It's Not!! > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I've been on vacation and haven't read the original article yet, but Jae, have you tried supplementing with magnesium yet as a way to try to lower your cholesterol? Amanda , Jae Jones <recyclednew wrote: > > So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my > cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a grossly > negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for many > people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! > > I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest > Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image driven > diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten was > a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had to > go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a > comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to > loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on > that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from > proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed to > the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with people > and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't > hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've had > people make comments like this to me! > I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife is > celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some garden > burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to him > that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems > until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this is > not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! > > I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound like > a joke and a Hollywood Fad! > It's Not!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 I have tried everything except pharmaceutical drugs because I believe they will do more harm than good. I have a mutated CF gene, is is suspected as the cause. I don't have the traditional, commonly known form of CF, but I have a lot of digestive problems that are believed to be rooted in that gene. I really don't feel it's an issue to be concerned with because dietary wise I can't possibly have a risk of stoke, heart attack, or any serious complications. If any such problems come up, it's beyond any possible control and is meant to be! Thanks though! On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:38 PM, aldohert <amandakirby wrote: > > > I've been on vacation and haven't read the original article yet, but Jae, > have you tried supplementing with magnesium yet as a way to try to lower > your cholesterol? > > Amanda > > > --- In <%40>, > Jae Jones <recyclednew wrote: > > > > So basically gluten is the cause of high cholesterol? Then why is my > > cholesterol still high with no logical reasoning? I think that is a > grossly > > negligent comment that can have potentially dangerous consequences for > many > > people! Now we are down playing cholesterol to a fad diet too! > > > > I really hate when gluten free diets are made to sound like the latest > > Hollywood fad diet! It makes it sound like it's some vain, body image > driven > > diet that nobody really needs to be on! When I first figured out gluten > was > > a problem and eliminated it, I mentioned gluten as an allergy when I had > to > > go to the hospital and the doctor laughs at the gluten free and made a > > comment, " is that the new Angelina Jolie diet? " Like I'm just trying to > > loose weight and look good! It's scary when medical professionals take on > > that attitude and it's that attitude that has kept so many people from > > proper diagnosis and dietary changes for so long! And when it's portrayed > to > > the public as a fad diet, then it makes it harder for us dealing with > people > > and trying to eat out, because then they think, " oh, a little bit won't > > hurt. They won't even notice it and they are thin enough as it is! " I've > had > > people make comments like this to me! > > I recently went to visit an old professor of mine and found out his wife > is > > celiac. We started talking about foods and he said he bought her some > garden > > burgers because they had very little gluten in them! I had to explain to > him > > that very little is still not safe and she will continue to have problems > > until it's all eliminated! Doctors are not doing thier job because this > is > > not the first insident in which someone has thought a little bit is ok! > > > > I didn't like the article simply because it makes the whole thing sound > like > > a joke and a Hollywood Fad! > > It's Not!! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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