Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Ok so I have never ever had any symptoms associated with gluten intolerance. I just switched to a new holistic Dr and he said because I have auto immune thyroid disease he wanted to test me for gluten intolerance. We did the saliva test which also showed low morning cortisol although I have had no symptoms of that either. My Giadin Ab, SigA test showed 20 on a scale of 13-15 being border line and over 15 being positive so he told me I must go gluten free. I am having such a hard time doing it that I am wondering if anyone has any input on these results. I am certainly going to avoid wheat but avoiding oat meal for instance had been a problem. I bought gluten free Bobs Red Mill oats only to find that they were not organic so I called them up hoping they would say they were ok but the person said they had no idea what pesticides and herbicides have sprayed on them! I returned them to the store and bought my usual organic oatmeal and have been using that. I am a vegetarian and my breakfast had been raw fruits and some nuts but due to low cortisol I was told to eat something more substantial in the morning and not have fruits at that time Thanks for any input Brit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I am not sure if this link will help you, as I have not ask Pure Farms if they are organic because I can't handle oats anyway, but here is certified GF Oats http://www.onlyoats.com/quality If you continue to eat a food that contains gluten, you will continue to be sick. Have you considered trying other flaked cereals such as buckwheat, quinoa or amaranth in place of the oats? BL On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, britral<britral wrote: > > > Ok so I have never ever had any symptoms associated with gluten intolerance. > I just switched to a new holistic Dr and he said because I have auto immune > thyroid disease he wanted to test me for gluten intolerance. We did the > saliva test which also showed low morning cortisol although I have had no > symptoms of that either. My Giadin Ab, SigA test showed 20 on a scale of > 13-15 being border line and over 15 being positive so he told me I must go > gluten free. I am having such a hard time doing it that I am wondering if > anyone has any input on these results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 I've just recently figured out I'm G-intolerant, and I'll tell you it's not always obvious. While I've had dermatitis problems for the past ten or twelve years, my stomach issues developed in the past six months, even with whole wheat. I've been vegan for nearly seventeen years, and can usually tell when I eat something not 'allowed.' The issue with oats isn't organic so much as being non-contaminated with other grains. I bought a cheapie brand last month and my body quickly told me it wasn't ok. The one brand I have found offhand to be safe is Kashi's Heart to Heart, but I'm sure there are others. Welcome to the group. There are plenty of recipes in the files, and several of the members have their own blogs. Be well, Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Hi Brit, My story is similar. I too was tested and diagnosed by a holistic doctor after a diagnosis of autoimmune thyroid disease. I too thought I had no symptoms and the diagnosis was a complete surprise. I resisted the gluten free diet at first. My doctor told me to try it for 3 months and see how I felt after that. At first, I didn't notice any changes. The changes came gradually. Often I didn't realize I was feeling so much better until accidentally eating gluten, which began to make me sick as a dog! Now I realize I was symptomatic all my life and never knew it. Like a frog in a pot of water. For me, telling myself if was only for 3 months worked wonders. It didn't feel like a permanent life sentence. Then when I started to feel better, there was no way you'd get me to eat gluten again! Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T " britral " <britral Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:09:01 result of my test - am I gluten intolerant for sure? Ok so I have never ever had any symptoms associated with gluten intolerance. I just switched to a new holistic Dr and he said because I have auto immune thyroid disease he wanted to test me for gluten intolerance. We did the saliva test which also showed low morning cortisol although I have had no symptoms of that either. My Giadin Ab, SigA test showed 20 on a scale of 13-15 being border line and over 15 being positive so he told me I must go gluten free. I am having such a hard time doing it that I am wondering if anyone has any input on these results. I am certainly going to avoid wheat but avoiding oat meal for instance had been a problem. I bought gluten free Bobs Red Mill oats only to find that they were not organic so I called them up hoping they would say they were ok but the person said they had no idea what pesticides and herbicides have sprayed on them! I returned them to the store and bought my usual organic oatmeal and have been using that. I am a vegetarian and my breakfast had been raw fruits and some nuts but due to low cortisol I was told to eat something more substantial in the morning and not have fruits at that time Thanks for any input Brit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Thanks Brit for bringing this subject to my attention. I, too, have an auto immune disease of the thyroid - Hashimoto's disease and I've tried only recently to live gluten free. I have been vegan for some time. I haven't tested for gluten intolerance so I've had a not so serious attitude about eating products containing gluten because I thought I was symptom free. Thanks to you I'm going to take the plunge and take the saliva test. I'm interested in the morning/fruit connection as I usually start my day with a fruit/green/hemp powder smoothie. I feel that it gives me energy as I drag so in the morning. I wonder if this is a cortisol issue as well? Besides the other grains that have been mentioned already there are a number of breads that are gluten free - tapioca, brown rice, etc. I particularly like toasted tapioca bread with hummus and tomato and or avocado. That's a really substantial breakfast, and tasty too. I think once you start experimenting you'll be able to let go of you oat meal with no problem. Millet is a nice hot breakfast cereal as well, for instance. Good luck and thanks for turning the light bulb on in my head.... Denial is not a river in Egypt. Diana - britral<britral To: <\ om> Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:09 PM result of my test - am I gluten intolerant for sure? Ok so I have never ever had any symptoms associated with gluten intolerance. I just switched to a new holistic Dr and he said because I have auto immune thyroid disease he wanted to test me for gluten intolerance. We did the saliva test which also showed low morning cortisol although I have had no symptoms of that either. My Giadin Ab, SigA test showed 20 on a scale of 13-15 being border line and over 15 being positive so he told me I must go gluten free. I am having such a hard time doing it that I am wondering if anyone has any input on these results. I am certainly going to avoid wheat but avoiding oat meal for instance had been a problem. I bought gluten free Bobs Red Mill oats only to find that they were not organic so I called them up hoping they would say they were ok but the person said they had no idea what pesticides and herbicides have sprayed on them! I returned them to the store and bought my usual organic oatmeal and have been using that. I am a vegetarian and my breakfast had been raw fruits and some nuts but due to low cortisol I was told to eat something more substantial in the morning and not have fruits at that time Thanks for any input Brit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 -Thanks to everyone for wonderful responses. Only trouble I am having, aside from not wanting to eat pesticide covered GF oats, is the bread!!! ITs disgusting! I don't want to eat cornstarch/tapioca starch etc etc and I don't know what to use I bought some GF bread at Whole Foods and it tastes like cake :(As it cost over $5 I am taking it back. What on earth can I use for a sandwich I want to go GF and give it a try but not sure what to eat for breakfast, do the quinoa flakes taste any good? Although I am not strict vegan btw I am strict vegetarian and try to be vegan. I will look in files for some breakfast ideas, must have some protein. thanks again brit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 http://www.schar.com/us/gluten-free-products/breads/ These are the best tasting breads I've found. I especially like the multigrain for sandwiches. On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM, britral <britral wrote: > > > -Thanks to everyone for wonderful responses. Only trouble I am having, > aside from not wanting to eat pesticide covered GF oats, is the bread!!! ITs > disgusting! I don't want to eat cornstarch/tapioca starch etc etc and I > don't know what to use I bought some GF bread at Whole Foods and it > tastes like cake :(As it cost over $5 I am taking it back. What on earth can > I use for a sandwich I want to go GF and give it a try but not sure what > to eat for breakfast, do the quinoa flakes taste any good? Although I am not > strict vegan btw I am strict vegetarian and try to be vegan. I will look in > files for some breakfast ideas, must have some protein. thanks again brit > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Brit like you I thought I was having no symptoms so why go gluten free? For me there were 3 things, my doctor who I trust suggested it. I had testing for mineral absorption and I am way low on most save iron. (I figure cooking in cast iron is helping there.) And finally once I stopped eating gluten I found that the stomach discomfort I was having after meals began to go away. I'm not able to say if you are having absorption problems or not. It isn't uncommon though to have that with gluten, dairy and soy intolerances. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Brit, Don't give up on the breads yet. I've found that some stores have better GF breads than others. For instance Vitamin Cottage has a tapioca bread that I would agree is like cake, but Sunflower (don't know if this store is national) carries a delicious tapioca bread when toasted and a nice brown rice variation, too. I don't eat much bread, but when I have the craving its nice to know its there in the freezer and I can toast myself a piece. But it did take some time to find breads that work. You can always make your own bread if you're so inclined. Diana - britral<britral To: <\ om> Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:48 PM Re: result of my test - am I gluten intolerant for sure? -Thanks to everyone for wonderful responses. Only trouble I am having, aside from not wanting to eat pesticide covered GF oats, is the bread!!! ITs disgusting! I don't want to eat cornstarch/tapioca starch etc etc and I don't know what to use I bought some GF bread at Whole Foods and it tastes like cake :(As it cost over $5 I am taking it back. What on earth can I use for a sandwich I want to go GF and give it a try but not sure what to eat for breakfast, do the quinoa flakes taste any good? Although I am not strict vegan btw I am strict vegetarian and try to be vegan. I will look in files for some breakfast ideas, must have some protein. thanks again brit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Brit, I too felt repulsed by gf bread initially. For me, me taste for it improved over time, as withdrawal pangs from wheat abated. I found that going without any bread for awhile helped me become more interested in the gf stuff because I was no longer comparing it to the gluten bread that I had enjoyed for many years. I agree with what Diana said. From what I've seen, it seems that many people on this list take that attitude towards gf bread. I've been eating gf a LONG time at this point and I rather enjoy some gf bread now and then as a treat: it's simply better than nothing. Initially, I made a lot of flat breads in the frying pan with yeast and whole grain gf flour like quinoa, millet, rice, buckwheat, teff. I tend to prefer my own baking better than commercial products, but that was true even before I went gf. :-) Also, please check out this information on protein. You may be getting a lot more protein in your diet than you realize. http://www.pcrm.org/health/veginfo/protein.html I hope that helps you feel more confident that you can get all you need easily from a varied vegan diet. Deborah Brit, Don't give up on the breads yet. I've found that some stores have better GF breads than others. For instance Vitamin Cottage has a tapioca bread that I would agree is like cake, but Sunflower (don't know if this store is national) carries a delicious tapioca bread when toasted and a nice brown rice variation, too. I don't eat much bread, but when I have the craving its nice to know its there in the freezer and I can toast myself a piece. But it did take some time to find breads that work. You can always make your own bread if you're so inclined. Diana -Thanks to everyone for wonderful responses. Only trouble I am having, aside from not wanting to eat pesticide covered GF oats, is the bread!!! ITs disgusting! I don't want to eat cornstarch/tapioca starch etc etc and I don't know what to use I bought some GF bread at Whole Foods and it tastes like cake :(As it cost over $5 I am taking it back. What on earth can I use for a sandwich I want to go GF and give it a try but not sure what to eat for breakfast, do the quinoa flakes taste any good? Although I am not strict vegan btw I am strict vegetarian and try to be vegan. I will look in files for some breakfast ideas, must have some protein. thanks again brit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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