Guest guest Posted November 1, 2009 Report Share Posted November 1, 2009 One of my close relatives is struggling with infertility. I know we have the genes for (what my doctor and I term) atypical celiac in our family; she recently suffered a miscarriage after not being able to get pg at all for a long time. I know gluten intolerance can cause fertility issues. I have brought up the issue with her, briefly, and she was going to check with her doctor about it when I did, but her fertility doctor is *really* *gung-ho* about some particular, expensive treatment options for her and probably doesn't believe in anything beyond strict celiac disease. I'm wondering if there are people in this group who struggled with infertility related to celiac, and, if so, if any of you have advice about whether or how I should approach my relative about it. I'd like to hear about your experiences with this (either to the group as a whole or in a private email exchange). I haven't been in my relative's shoes and don't want to come across as anything but loving. Is it my place to say anything more? If so, what should it be? Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Personally, I think it is your place to lovingly say whatever you can to help your relative have the best possible outcome. If you tell her that is your intention, that may help her hear you. She'll make her own decision in any case. In the end, she'll take whatever route she wants, what you say. Hopefully, she respects you enough to take you seriously. I hope so for her sake as well as for that of her potential children. My mother was the genetic link in my lineage for gluten intolerance. She suffered menstrual irregularity and had several miscarriages, including an ectopic pregnancy which is potentially life threatening for the mother. She was also growing cysts (one of our shared symptoms) on her reproductive organs that resulted in surgeries, thereby further reducing her chances of conception. When I was conceived against all expectations, they were so desperate to bring me to term (without knowing anything about gluten intolerance in the 50s) my mother took one of the anti-miscarriage drugs that were popular at the time. Fortunately, it wasn't thalidamide, but it could too easily have been! God only knows what side effects today's drugs will have for the fetuses down the road. They ALL have potential side effects. The one she took resulted 20 years later, in the female babies developing exceptionally high rates of cervical cancer. Again thankfully, I was spared. However, it motivates me to encourage you to encourage her to deal with the root cause rather than just treating symptoms. I know no one likes to have change doctors, but it could be necessary. There are research papers in the scientific literature that address this issue. If her doctor wants to know, the information is available! As you may know, one of the symptoms of untreated gluten intolerance is potential interference with the absorption of vitamin B12. Even without going as far as eliminating gluten from the diet, just supplementing B12 has helped some women bring babies to term. If you can encourage her to think in terms of nurturing her own health first and foremost, all the better. Her body needs to be well and strong to support the growth of another human being. She'll need to be in good shape to cope with the demands of mothering too, so if you can convince her to take a step back and focus on creating a really strong foundation of health and vitality first, everything is more likely to just fall into place. :-) Deborah One of my close relatives is struggling with infertility. I know we have the genes for (what my doctor and I term) atypical celiac in our family; she recently suffered a miscarriage after not being able to get pg at all for a long time. I know gluten intolerance can cause fertility issues. I have brought up the issue with her, briefly, and she was going to check with her doctor about it when I did, but her fertility doctor is *really* *gung-ho* about some particular, expensive treatment options for her and probably doesn't believe in anything beyond strict celiac disease. I'm wondering if there are people in this group who struggled with infertility related to celiac, and, if so, if any of you have advice about whether or how I should approach my relative about it. I'd like to hear about your experiences with this (either to the group as a whole or in a private email exchange). I haven't been in my relative's shoes and don't want to come across as anything but loving. Is it my place to say anything more? If so, what should it be? Sally . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I recently found out that I have hypothyroidism and I've read that gluten can certainly be a problem and create thyroid disease. I recently went off of all gluten products and feel so much better already! It's the first time I've had normal bowel function in quite some time. I also take medication for my thyroid, but I've read just going off of gluten for 6 months can help the thyroid to go back to normal. I'm hoping it will. I know that thyroid problems can also lead to fertility problems and this past year I have been experiencing fertility problems despite always getting pregnant easily in the past. Until this year I never felt so bad (I think the gluten foods were also causing problems), but I knew I was having thyroid problems and had to insist doctors test me (I finally found out from the second doctor). Sometimes, we really have to insist on getting the necessary tests. My son has Type I Diabetes and was diagnosed back in April. I took him off of all gluten products as well as cow milk products (though he did not test positive for celiac in the hospital) and all his stomach problems went away. I use various nutritional supplements and thankfully, his blood sugar levels have been wonderful despite not using insulin during the day time. I only pray that it will continue that way. P.S. My sister also experiences a lot of stomach problems and I have been trying to help her. I hope she will also try going off of gluten products. I know it must run on my father's side of the family. A lot of them have stomach problems. We can only try our best to help someone, but unless they make the decision, there is nothing we can do but pray for them and hope they will change their mind. Lori momma to four adorable blessings & owner ~ Mommas Baby Purely Natural & Organic Products for Momma & Baby http://www.mommasbaby.com Toll Free 877-296-BABY Please consider the environment before printing this email. Deborah Pageau [dpageau] Sunday, November 01, 2009 7:52 PM Re: Gluten intolerance and infertility Personally, I think it is your place to lovingly say whatever you can to help your relative have the best possible outcome. If you tell her that is your intention, that may help her hear you. She'll make her own decision in any case. In the end, she'll take whatever route she wants, what you say. Hopefully, she respects you enough to take you seriously. I hope so for her sake as well as for that of her potential children. My mother was the genetic link in my lineage for gluten intolerance. She suffered menstrual irregularity and had several miscarriages, including an ectopic pregnancy which is potentially life threatening for the mother. She was also growing cysts (one of our shared symptoms) on her reproductive organs that resulted in surgeries, thereby further reducing her chances of conception. When I was conceived against all expectations, they were so desperate to bring me to term (without knowing anything about gluten intolerance in the 50s) my mother took one of the anti-miscarriage drugs that were popular at the time. Fortunately, it wasn't thalidamide, but it could too easily have been! God only knows what side effects today's drugs will have for the fetuses down the road. They ALL have potential side effects. The one she took resulted 20 years later, in the female babies developing exceptionally high rates of cervical cancer. Again thankfully, I was spared. However, it motivates me to encourage you to encourage her to deal with the root cause rather than just treating symptoms. I know no one likes to have change doctors, but it could be necessary. There are research papers in the scientific literature that address this issue. If her doctor wants to know, the information is available! As you may know, one of the symptoms of untreated gluten intolerance is potential interference with the absorption of vitamin B12. Even without going as far as eliminating gluten from the diet, just supplementing B12 has helped some women bring babies to term. If you can encourage her to think in terms of nurturing her own health first and foremost, all the better. Her body needs to be well and strong to support the growth of another human being. She'll need to be in good shape to cope with the demands of mothering too, so if you can convince her to take a step back and focus on creating a really strong foundation of health and vitality first, everything is more likely to just fall into place. :-) Deborah One of my close relatives is struggling with infertility. I know we have the genes for (what my doctor and I term) atypical celiac in our family; she recently suffered a miscarriage after not being able to get pg at all for a long time. I know gluten intolerance can cause fertility issues. I have brought up the issue with her, briefly, and she was going to check with her doctor about it when I did, but her fertility doctor is *really* *gung-ho* about some particular, expensive treatment options for her and probably doesn't believe in anything beyond strict celiac disease. I'm wondering if there are people in this group who struggled with infertility related to celiac, and, if so, if any of you have advice about whether or how I should approach my relative about it. I'd like to hear about your experiences with this (either to the group as a whole or in a private email exchange). I haven't been in my relative's shoes and don't want to come across as anything but loving. Is it my place to say anything more? If so, what should it be? Sally .. 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Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I have unexplained infertility. The stats I see are that 4-8% of all unexplained infertility is caused by (likely undiagnosed) celiac disease. If someone had told me that fifteen years ago, I would have gone gluten-free a lot earlier! But if you've told her, that's about all that you can do. Print off an article like this one: http://www.celiac.com/articles/643/1/Fertility-and-Pregnancy-in-Women-with-Celia\ c-Disease-by-Michelle-Melin-Rogovin/Page1.html And just say to her " this is just what I was talking to youa bout before, in case you are interested. " Pam On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Sally Parrott Ashbrook < sally.parrott wrote: > > > One of my close relatives is struggling with infertility. I know we have > the genes for (what my doctor and I term) atypical celiac in our family; > she > recently suffered a miscarriage after not being able to get pg at all for a > long time. I know gluten intolerance can cause fertility issues. I have > brought up the issue with her, briefly, and she was going to check with her > doctor about it when I did, but her fertility doctor is *really* *gung-ho* > about some particular, expensive treatment options for her and probably > doesn't believe in anything beyond strict celiac disease. I'm wondering if > there are people in this group who struggled with infertility related to > celiac, and, if so, if any of you have advice about whether or how I should > approach my relative about it. I'd like to hear about your experiences with > this (either to the group as a whole or in a private email exchange). I > haven't been in my relative's shoes and don't want to come across as > anything but loving. Is it my place to say anything more? If so, what > should it be? > > Sally > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Lori, that's wonderful to hear that your young son's condition is so greatly improved with selective diet! Congrats on helping him in such a significant way! Deborah I recently found out that I have hypothyroidism and I've read that gluten can certainly be a problem and create thyroid disease. I recently went off of all gluten products and feel so much better already! It's the first time I've had normal bowel function in quite some time. I also take medication for my thyroid, but I've read just going off of gluten for 6 months can help the thyroid to go back to normal. I'm hoping it will. I know that thyroid problems can also lead to fertility problems and this past year I have been experiencing fertility problems despite always getting pregnant easily in the past. Until this year I never felt so bad (I think the gluten foods were also causing problems), but I knew I was having thyroid problems and had to insist doctors test me (I finally found out from the second doctor). Sometimes, we really have to insist on getting the necessary tests. My son has Type I Diabetes and was diagnosed back in April. I took him off of all gluten products as well as cow milk products (though he did not test positive for celiac in the hospital) and all his stomach problems went away. I use various nutritional supplements and thankfully, his blood sugar levels have been wonderful despite not using insulin during the day time. I only pray that it will continue that way. P.S. My sister also experiences a lot of stomach problems and I have been trying to help her. I hope she will also try going off of gluten products. I know it must run on my father's side of the family. A lot of them have stomach problems. We can only try our best to help someone, but unless they make the decision, there is nothing we can do but pray for them and hope they will change their mind. Lori momma to four adorable blessings & owner ~ Mommas Baby Purely Natural & Organic Products for Momma & Baby http://www.mommasbaby.com Toll Free 877-296-BABY . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Thank you Deborah! I really felt it was the best thing to do. I've done a lot of research and I just felt that gluten and cow milk (though, he rarely had cow milk except for cheese and ice cream at grandmas!) were items he should not have in his diet. I've even read that many Type 1 Diabetics if they do not have celiac disease develop it within four years of their diagnosis! I am just sooo glad he is feeling better. He had such tummy aches for years and any time I brought it up to his pediatrician, his doctor told me that some children were just like that. I wish I would have known at that time to do further testing. I'll just pray now that his sugar levels continue to do so well. The Children's Hospital in Philadelphia (I transferred him from a local office) was so amazed at his AIC results that they had to test him to be certain it was Type 1. I told them what I was doing and they said to keep it up because it's working so well (always neat to hear that from doctors!). :-) We go for another visit in two weeks and I'm so excited to see what they tell me again. His sugar levels are even better. :-) P.S. Nathanael eats a lot of raw veggies and fruits as well as being gluten free and free from all cow milk. I know diet is so important! (oh, I make this new breakfast for him - raw sunflower seeds, raw pepitas - pumpkin seeds, raw almonds, unsweetened coconut, organic apple pieces with almond milk and he just loves it!!! All my children do. He also has a nutritious green smoothie - yummy!) Lori momma to four adorable blessings & owner ~ Mommas Baby Purely Natural & Organic Products for Momma & Baby http://www.mommasbaby.com Toll Free 877-296-BABY Please consider the environment before printing this email. Deborah Pageau [dpageau] Sunday, November 01, 2009 10:21 PM Re: Gluten intolerance and infertility Lori, that's wonderful to hear that your young son's condition is so greatly improved with selective diet! Congrats on helping him in such a significant way! Deborah I recently found out that I have hypothyroidism and I've read that gluten can certainly be a problem and create thyroid disease. I recently went off of all gluten products and feel so much better already! It's the first time I've had normal bowel function in quite some time. I also take medication for my thyroid, but I've read just going off of gluten for 6 months can help the thyroid to go back to normal. I'm hoping it will. I know that thyroid problems can also lead to fertility problems and this past year I have been experiencing fertility problems despite always getting pregnant easily in the past. Until this year I never felt so bad (I think the gluten foods were also causing problems), but I knew I was having thyroid problems and had to insist doctors test me (I finally found out from the second doctor). Sometimes, we really have to insist on getting the necessary tests. My son has Type I Diabetes and was diagnosed back in April. I took him off of all gluten products as well as cow milk products (though he did not test positive for celiac in the hospital) and all his stomach problems went away. I use various nutritional supplements and thankfully, his blood sugar levels have been wonderful despite not using insulin during the day time. I only pray that it will continue that way. P.S. My sister also experiences a lot of stomach problems and I have been trying to help her. I hope she will also try going off of gluten products. I know it must run on my father's side of the family. A lot of them have stomach problems. We can only try our best to help someone, but unless they make the decision, there is nothing we can do but pray for them and hope they will change their mind. Lori momma to four adorable blessings & owner ~ Mommas Baby Purely Natural & Organic Products for Momma & Baby http://www.mommasba <http://www.mommasbaby.com> by.com Toll Free 877-296-BABY .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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