Gluten allergy???

February 3, 2010

Hi,

I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten and

yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY smelly

boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?) and

stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach aches

weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing. I mean

it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I could smell

them.

Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything (and

don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked if

I took her to be tested.

I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is invasive

and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to drs through

something like that to traumatize her.

Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she still

needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky stuff. I'm

thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats very

little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is dinner

leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the noodles

are rice.

Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

Any would be greatly appreciated.

Peace,

Reggie

February 3, 2010

Hi Reggie

In my personal experience, smell/ pus = infection. Your daughter may

have a bit of chronic sinusitus/ sinus or ear infection , or even tooth

infection in the upper jaw.

Family history if this, allergies, hey fever, gastro problems, long

upper tooth roots getting into sinuses causing problems for both, and

gluten/dairy intolerance. It's often a vicious cycle.

The mucus is trying to potect sensitive membranes. If it has pockets or

pooled areas in the sinus, the bacteria often have a field day. It

I would advise taking her to a Ear/nose throat/ specialist, and get her

checked out for periodic infections. She may need and antibiotic to

prevent more serious damage or infection.

Hope this helps. Its all a balancing act...

clear skies and apple pies!

lc carol

Reggie A wrote:

> Hi,

> I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten and

yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY smelly

boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?) and

stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach aches

weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing. I mean

it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I could smell

them.

> Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything (and

don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked if

I took her to be tested.

> I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is invasive

and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to drs through

something like that to traumatize her.

> Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she still

needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky stuff. I'm

thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

> I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats

very little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is dinner

leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the noodles

are rice.

>

> Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

>

> Any would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Peace,

> Reggie

>

> ---

>

> Our vegan and gluten free recipes are available in the archives for this

group or at the following URL (***Recipes Posted to VGF***):

>

> Check out these affiliated vegan lists ~

>

> http://www.Christian-Vegan-Cooking

>

February 3, 2010

I'd suggest keeping a food diary. My son also has problems with too much

citrus, corn, pineapple, etc. He's okay with small amounts, but we have to

keep it limited.

Environmental allergies are a possibility as well. Pollens, perfumes,

grass, molds, etc.

Pam

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Reggie A <purpleveg wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten and

> yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

> thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY

> smelly boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?)

> and stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach

> aches weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing.

> I mean it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I

> could smell them.

> Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything (and

> don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked

> if I took her to be tested.

> I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is

> invasive and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to

> drs through something like that to traumatize her.

> Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she

> still needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky

> stuff. I'm thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

> I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats

> very little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is

> dinner leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

> infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the

> noodles are rice.

>

> Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

>

> Any would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Peace,

> Reggie

>

February 3, 2010

Have you tried a neti pot to clean out her sinuses? They work wonders! A

little weird at first but once you get the hang of it it's easy and helps a

lot with nasal issues.

I would also explore the possibility of other food issues. New

allergies/sensitivities can start up at any time! I lived on rice as a baby

and it was a main staple of my diet most of my life, and now it's causing

unbelievable digestive distress and I had to cut it out of my diet. So don't

think because something was always safe, that it's not a possible problem!

I'd recommend doing the elimination/challenge diet with her just to see if

you can pin point any trigger foods. Also make sure she's not getting too

many acid forming foods as they trigger the mucus membranes to make more

mucus.

I haven't experienced smelly boogers personally, but I have had serious odor

problems from garlic. More than you would normally expect! Whenever I ate

garlic I would smell so bad for days! Nobody could stand to be near me and I

had to sleep on the couch because I made my man sick! The weird thing is I

couldn't smell it! lol I guess that's good since I can't escape me! But

anyway, maybe there is a food that your daughter's body can't process very

well and it tries to eliminate from mucus threw her nose, causing horrid

odor for days!

I agree with your decision to not traumatize her with all the medical crap!

I'm 31 and I don't want to deal with all that! My GI doc was able to confirm

celiac after 4 yrs on the diet by doing extra lab test on the biopsy. I

refused to eat gluten again because I knew without a doubt it was a problem

and I wasn't about to make myself sick to please them! Still I think that

whole scope procedure would be very traumatizing for a 7 yr old!

Hope you figure out what's causing the problem. Good luck!

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Reggie A <purpleveg wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten and

> yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

> thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY

> smelly boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?)

> and stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach

> aches weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing.

> I mean it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I

> could smell them.

> Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything (and

> don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked

> if I took her to be tested.

> I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is

> invasive and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to

> drs through something like that to traumatize her.

> Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she

> still needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky

> stuff. I'm thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

> I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats

> very little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is

> dinner leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

> infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the

> noodles are rice.

>

> Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

>

> Any would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Peace,

> Reggie

>

February 3, 2010

..

Hi, Reggie -- Hugs to you and your daughter.

Just so you know, many people who are allergic to gluten are also allergic

to dairy. And dairy is notorious for causing, or at least feeding, sinus

infections.

The neti-pot is an excellent suggestion. I use 1/2 teaspoon iodine-free

salt to 1cup of lukewarm water. A friend of mine swears that adding 1/2

teaspoon of baking soda to the mixture will make short work of an infection.

Also consider oil of oregano (unless she's very young). By using the

neti-pot to flush my sinuses and drinking 3 drops of oil of oregano in water

each day, I cured myself of a sinus infection without going to the doctor.

Oregano acts as an antibiotic, antifungal, and antiviral. (Medical research

has shown it to be more effective against MRSA that the 18 most commonly

used antibiotics.) The added benefit was that, in addition to clearing up

my sinuses, the oregano also got rid of my long-standing problem of acne

rosacea.

Best wishes,

Carolyn

February 3, 2010

I'm with Carol. Smelly green goo = a trip to the doctor. It's not

necessarily food-related and could require immediate medical attention. I'm

not all about Western medicine, but it is an important tool for some

conditions.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:54 AM, lcc <edgegardener wrote:

>

> Hi Reggie

> In my personal experience, smell/ pus = infection. Your daughter may

> have a bit of chronic sinusitus/ sinus or ear infection , or even tooth

> infection in the upper jaw.

> Family history if this, allergies, hey fever, gastro problems, long

> upper tooth roots getting into sinuses causing problems for both, and

> gluten/dairy intolerance. It's often a vicious cycle.

> The mucus is trying to potect sensitive membranes. If it has pockets or

> pooled areas in the sinus, the bacteria often have a field day. It

> I would advise taking her to a Ear/nose throat/ specialist, and get her

> checked out for periodic infections. She may need and antibiotic to

> prevent more serious damage or infection.

> Hope this helps. Its all a balancing act...

> clear skies and apple pies!

> lc carol

>

> Reggie A wrote:

> > Hi,

> > I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten

> and yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

> thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY

> smelly boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?)

> and stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach

> aches weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing.

> I mean it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I

> could smell them.

> > Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything

> (and don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and

> asked if I took her to be tested.

> > I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is

> invasive and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to

> drs through something like that to traumatize her.

> > Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she

> still needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky

> stuff. I'm thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

> > I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she

> eats very little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is

> dinner leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

> infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the

> noodles are rice.

> >

> > Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

> >

> > Any would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Peace,

> > Reggie

> >

> > ---

>

> >

> > Our vegan and gluten free recipes are available in the archives for

> this group or at the following URL (***Recipes Posted to VGF***):

> >

> > Check out these affiliated vegan lists ~

> >

> > http://www.Christian-Vegan-Cooking

> >

February 3, 2010

Hi Reggie;

I agree that she may also have other sensitivies. Soy is a

common issue when people are sensitive to gluten. I suggest

giving her time to adjust to being gluten-free though,

before deciding whether to make more changes. It can take

awhile for the body to heal and clean out. Initially, it

took me about 2 months before I was really feeling the full

benefits of the change. Being a child, she may heal faster,

but even so, some time may resolve a lot more.

Of the most common allergies, you have already have

eliminated the worst offenders. As a vegan, she already

avoids dairy (numero uno!) and now gluten which are both

major players. There are also some plant foods that can

trigger reactions but even if she is reacting to them now,

given time on a vegan gluten-free diet, her body may become

less reactive. As long as she is showing improvement, I'd

take it slow.

I'm really glad for you and your daughter that you have

found a constructive way to help her! Medical tests can be

useful but it sounds like you are doing just fine with

elimination trials. Ultimately, it comes down to that

anyway. I totally agree that gentle processes are

preferrable, especially when caring for a child but for for

adults too! It's valuable for us to learn how to be in

charge of our own health.

All the best, Deborah

>

>On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Reggie A

><purpleveg wrote:

>

>>

>> Hi,

>> I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is

>> allergic to gluten and yeast (the yeast from an allergist

>> suggestion) and put her on 25 billion thingies of vegan

>> probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY

>smelly boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also

>> had diarhhea (sp?) and stomach aches. Those were her only

>> symptoms that I can see. The stomach aches weren't bad

>> but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE

>thing. I mean it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and

>> she's in the back I could smell them.

>> Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they

>> know everything (and don't) and she said that my daughter

>> doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked if I took her to

>> be tested. I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on

>> gluten and the test is invasive and painful and why

>> should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to drs through

>> something like that to traumatize her. Here's a problem:

>> she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she

>still needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like

>> that green stinky stuff. I'm thinking maybe there is more

>> she's allergic to. I make sure to buy the more expensive,

>> gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats very little processed

>> foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is dinner

>leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for

>> Thai (very infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari

>> with us and make sure the noodles are rice.

>>

>> Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

>>

>> Any would be greatly appreciated.

>>

>> Peace,

>> Reggie

>>

>

February 4, 2010

Thanks for the info and suggestions. I've copied it down and will check out an

ent.

The stinky green pus is gone since we've gone gluten free and the sinus thing

does run in the family.

, lcc <edgegardener wrote:

>

> Hi Reggie

> In my personal experience, smell/ pus = infection. Your daughter may

> have a bit of chronic sinusitus/ sinus or ear infection , or even tooth

> infection in the upper jaw.

> Family history if this, allergies, hey fever, gastro problems, long

> upper tooth roots getting into sinuses causing problems for both, and

> gluten/dairy intolerance. It's often a vicious cycle.

> The mucus is trying to potect sensitive membranes. If it has pockets or

> pooled areas in the sinus, the bacteria often have a field day. It

> I would advise taking her to a Ear/nose throat/ specialist, and get her

> checked out for periodic infections. She may need and antibiotic to

> prevent more serious damage or infection.

> Hope this helps. Its all a balancing act...

> clear skies and apple pies!

> lc carol

>

> Reggie A wrote:

> > Hi,

> > I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten and

yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY smelly

boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?) and

stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach aches

weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing. I mean

it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I could smell

them.

> > Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything (and

don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked if

I took her to be tested.

> > I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is

invasive and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to drs

through something like that to traumatize her.

> > Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she

still needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky

stuff. I'm thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

> > I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats

very little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is dinner

leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the noodles

are rice.

> >

> > Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

> >

> > Any would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Peace,

> > Reggie

> >

> > ---

> >

> > Our vegan and gluten free recipes are available in the archives for

this group or at the following URL (***Recipes Posted to VGF***):

> >

> > Check out these affiliated vegan lists ~

> >

> > http://www.Christian-Vegan-Cooking

> >

February 4, 2010

Yea and you're right, when we keep her on the neti pot daily her nose is fine

and really fine. I have to get on that again.

It's interesting, she never had this stinky green nose thing till we went to

Australia for the first time 3 years ago. She was eating a lot of fresh breads

there so when it hit me that it could be gluten I got her off it. I was slack

for a while but since I'm strict there are no more green boogies.

, Jae Jones <recyclednew wrote:

>

> Have you tried a neti pot to clean out her sinuses? They work wonders! A

> little weird at first but once you get the hang of it it's easy and helps a

> lot with nasal issues.

>

> I would also explore the possibility of other food issues. New

> allergies/sensitivities can start up at any time! I lived on rice as a baby

> and it was a main staple of my diet most of my life, and now it's causing

> unbelievable digestive distress and I had to cut it out of my diet. So don't

> think because something was always safe, that it's not a possible problem!

> I'd recommend doing the elimination/challenge diet with her just to see if

> you can pin point any trigger foods. Also make sure she's not getting too

> many acid forming foods as they trigger the mucus membranes to make more

> mucus.

> I haven't experienced smelly boogers personally, but I have had serious odor

> problems from garlic. More than you would normally expect! Whenever I ate

> garlic I would smell so bad for days! Nobody could stand to be near me and I

> had to sleep on the couch because I made my man sick! The weird thing is I

> couldn't smell it! lol I guess that's good since I can't escape me! But

> anyway, maybe there is a food that your daughter's body can't process very

> well and it tries to eliminate from mucus threw her nose, causing horrid

> odor for days!

>

> I agree with your decision to not traumatize her with all the medical crap!

> I'm 31 and I don't want to deal with all that! My GI doc was able to confirm

> celiac after 4 yrs on the diet by doing extra lab test on the biopsy. I

> refused to eat gluten again because I knew without a doubt it was a problem

> and I wasn't about to make myself sick to please them! Still I think that

> whole scope procedure would be very traumatizing for a 7 yr old!

>

> Hope you figure out what's causing the problem. Good luck!

>

> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Reggie A <purpleveg wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten and

> > yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

> > thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY

> > smelly boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?)

> > and stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach

> > aches weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing.

> > I mean it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I

> > could smell them.

> > Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything (and

> > don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked

> > if I took her to be tested.

> > I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is

> > invasive and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to

> > drs through something like that to traumatize her.

> > Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she

> > still needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky

> > stuff. I'm thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

> > I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats

> > very little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is

> > dinner leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

> > infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the

> > noodles are rice.

> >

> > Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

> >

> > Any would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Peace,

> > Reggie

> >

>

February 4, 2010

Hey Carolyn,

Yea, she's vegan, been vegan since conception. She's never had anything from

any animals except for my breast milk. I nursed her till her 4th birthday. She

was nursed exclusively for her first year except for the 3 times she had some

miso broth. Then we were pretty strict macrobiotic (vegan) for a few years and

now just regular vegan, whatever that means.

Maybe I'll give the oil of oregano a shot. Like I said in the other post I have

to get her back on the neti.

Peace,

Reggie

, Carolyn Greene <Carolyn

wrote:

>

> .

> Hi, Reggie -- Hugs to you and your daughter.

>

> Just so you know, many people who are allergic to gluten are also allergic

> to dairy. And dairy is notorious for causing, or at least feeding, sinus

> infections.

>

> The neti-pot is an excellent suggestion. I use 1/2 teaspoon iodine-free

> salt to 1cup of lukewarm water. A friend of mine swears that adding 1/2

> teaspoon of baking soda to the mixture will make short work of an infection.

>

> Also consider oil of oregano (unless she's very young). By using the

> neti-pot to flush my sinuses and drinking 3 drops of oil of oregano in water

> each day, I cured myself of a sinus infection without going to the doctor.

> Oregano acts as an antibiotic, antifungal, and antiviral. (Medical research

> has shown it to be more effective against MRSA that the 18 most commonly

> used antibiotics.) The added benefit was that, in addition to clearing up

> my sinuses, the oregano also got rid of my long-standing problem of acne

> rosacea.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Carolyn

>

February 4, 2010

Hey Deborah,

I should think of soy too.

She has hazlenut milk and used to love tofu but now off it. She really doesn't

have much soy.

We've been doing the gluten free tango for some time, longer than 2 months for

sure........

My husband seems to think it's something she'll grow out of as she gets older.

Sigh...

Peace,

Reggie

, dpageau <dpageau wrote:

>

> Hi Reggie;

>

> I agree that she may also have other sensitivies. Soy is a

> common issue when people are sensitive to gluten. I suggest

> giving her time to adjust to being gluten-free though,

> before deciding whether to make more changes. It can take

> awhile for the body to heal and clean out. Initially, it

> took me about 2 months before I was really feeling the full

> benefits of the change. Being a child, she may heal faster,

> but even so, some time may resolve a lot more.

>

> Of the most common allergies, you have already have

> eliminated the worst offenders. As a vegan, she already

> avoids dairy (numero uno!) and now gluten which are both

> major players. There are also some plant foods that can

> trigger reactions but even if she is reacting to them now,

> given time on a vegan gluten-free diet, her body may become

> less reactive. As long as she is showing improvement, I'd

> take it slow.

>

> I'm really glad for you and your daughter that you have

> found a constructive way to help her! Medical tests can be

> useful but it sounds like you are doing just fine with

> elimination trials. Ultimately, it comes down to that

> anyway. I totally agree that gentle processes are

> preferrable, especially when caring for a child but for for

> adults too! It's valuable for us to learn how to be in

> charge of our own health.

>

> All the best, Deborah

> >

> >On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Reggie A

> ><purpleveg wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> Hi,

> >> I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is

> >> allergic to gluten and yeast (the yeast from an allergist

> >> suggestion) and put her on 25 billion thingies of vegan

> >> probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY

> >smelly boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also

> >> had diarhhea (sp?) and stomach aches. Those were her only

> >> symptoms that I can see. The stomach aches weren't bad

> >> but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE

> >thing. I mean it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and

> >> she's in the back I could smell them.

> >> Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they

> >> know everything (and don't) and she said that my daughter

> >> doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked if I took her to

> >> be tested. I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on

> >> gluten and the test is invasive and painful and why

> >> should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to drs through

> >> something like that to traumatize her. Here's a problem:

> >> she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she

> >still needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like

> >> that green stinky stuff. I'm thinking maybe there is more

> >> she's allergic to. I make sure to buy the more expensive,

> >> gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats very little processed

> >> foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is dinner

> >leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for

> >> Thai (very infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari

> >> with us and make sure the noodles are rice.

> >>

> >> Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

> >>

> >> Any would be greatly appreciated.

> >>

> >> Peace,

> >> Reggie

> >>

> >

February 4, 2010

yea I'm so slack!

I should try that.

Seriously the kid eats so darn well. She has brown rice or quinoa with her

hazlenut milk as porridge for breakfast, lunch is dinner left overs and dinner

is usually a grain and veggies and some beans.

Snacks are lettuce (I know it's weird) or baby carrots, pears, apples and stuff

like that. Sometimes she'll have junk-chips or something like that. Poor kid!

, pdw <pdworkman wrote:

>

> I'd suggest keeping a food diary. My son also has problems with too much

> citrus, corn, pineapple, etc. He's okay with small amounts, but we have to

> keep it limited.

>

> Environmental allergies are a possibility as well. Pollens, perfumes,

> grass, molds, etc.

>

> Pam

>

> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Reggie A <purpleveg wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten and

> > yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

> > thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY

> > smelly boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?)

> > and stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach

> > aches weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing.

> > I mean it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I

> > could smell them.

> > Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything (and

> > don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked

> > if I took her to be tested.

> > I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is

> > invasive and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to

> > drs through something like that to traumatize her.

> > Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she

> > still needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky

> > stuff. I'm thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

> > I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats

> > very little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is

> > dinner leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

> > infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the

> > noodles are rice.

> >

> > Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

> >

> > Any would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Peace,

> > Reggie

> >

>

February 4, 2010

Glad the mucus is clearing up, though I would still check for tooth and sinus

infections. There may also be plant allergies, as well as dust and mold- I was

still getting sinus infections five years after going vegan. As for yeast

infection, I had learned it as a drop or two under the tongue. Be warned, it's

actually a bit hot and spicy.

Daniel Polk

February 4, 2010

Huh?

You learned what as a drop or two under the tongue? What's hot and spicy?

She's actually going for digital xrays today, first time.

The green is gone, it's been gone for 3 or 4 months, maybe 5. I am getting back

to the neti pot with her. I told her this morning and she agreed. Good girl!

I thought about mold but we are several months overseas and it's the same

symptoms so I think it's either something she'll go through and get over or

something she's still eating. Or just need to flush her daily.

, danieldale wrote:

>

> Glad the mucus is clearing up, though I would still check for tooth and sinus

infections. There may also be plant allergies, as well as dust and mold- I was

still getting sinus infections five years after going vegan. As for yeast

infection, I had learned it as a drop or two under the tongue. Be warned, it's

actually a bit hot and spicy.

>

> Daniel Polk

>

February 5, 2010

sorry, too many emails and too little sleep. oil of oregano, as someone else

suggested.

be well,

DDP

>

> Huh?

> You learned what as a drop or two under the tongue? What's hot and spicy?

February 5, 2010

Hi, I dont normally post, but wanted to add my two sense. I am gluten-free (not

quite vegan yet) and I never had testing done. I just knew something was very

wrong and I narrowed it down to wheat.I then eliminated wheat and now am

gluten-free. I wanted to let you know, Reggie that eating gluten free poses

other problems that you may or may not be aware of and for your daughters

comfort I thought I might mention this... please be sure she is getting plenty

of fiber. When I first started eating gluten free I was not and I was miserable!

now I incorporate fiber as if it were a food group. Beans go in every soup or

rice dish I eat. Sweet potatoes work well too. Another thing, when I went GFree

I also noticed my breath was terrible! Since I have excellent dental hygeine I

figured it had to be the diet and so I eliminated onions, except for the

occassional red onion on a salad and I have lots of yogurt. (Is there vegan

yogurt?) I dont know if these problems happen for everyone, but I do know that

after tweaking the diet I am a new person! So please make sure to think about

these things for her, as she will be happier in the long run.

Good luck and I hope she is feeling better soon!

, " Reggie A " <purpleveg wrote:

>

> Hi,

> I've decided (with dr diagnosis) that my daughter is allergic to gluten and

yeast (the yeast from an allergist suggestion) and put her on 25 billion

thingies of vegan probiotic. I started this b/c she has had green VERY smelly

boogies from her nose and it gets thick. She also had diarhhea (sp?) and

stomach aches. Those were her only symptoms that I can see. The stomach aches

weren't bad but she had them. The awfully stinky nose is a SURE thing. I mean

it was BAD,, so bad that if I was driving and she's in the back I could smell

them.

> Sooooo I had a discussion with someone who thinks they know everything (and

don't) and she said that my daughter doesn't have a gluten allergy and asked if

I took her to be tested.

> I said no b/c then I'd have to put her back on gluten and the test is invasive

and painful and why should I put a 7 year old who hasn't been to drs through

something like that to traumatize her.

> Here's a problem: she will still occasionally have a stinky nose and she still

needs to blow her nose frequently but NOTHING like that green stinky stuff. I'm

thinking maybe there is more she's allergic to.

> I make sure to buy the more expensive, gluten free noted oatmeal, she eats

very little processed foods, we make dinner from scratch, her lunch is dinner

leftovers and she's a good vegan eater. If we go out for Thai (very

infrequently) I bring her gluten free tamari with us and make sure the noodles

are rice.

>

> Anyone here have any thoughts, comments, suggestions?

>

> Any would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Peace,

> Reggie

>

February 5, 2010

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:42 AM, slychikadee <slychikadee wrote:

> I have lots of yogurt. (Is there vegan yogurt?)

>

Actually, naturally fermented foods and drinks have more and better

probiotics than do pasteurized dairy products. In fact, fermented cabbage

dishes such as sauerkraut and kimchi have a high population of the

beneficial lactobacillus plantarum. Here's what wikipedia says about it:

" The ability of *L. plantarum* to produce antimicrobial substances which

help them to survive in the gastro intestinal tract of human. The

antimicrobial substances produced have shown significant effect on Gram

positive and Gram negative bacteria. " In other words, it kills bad

bacteria.

On another note, since we were talking about it earlier in this thread,

here's an interesting story about oil of oregano. A couple of weeks ago, my

friend told me her brother in law who's diabetic and in very bad health had

come down with a leg wound infection as well as MRSA. The doctors had been

treating him for a couple of months with various antibiotics, but none of

them were working. His health was getting worse, so she and her husband

were preparing to fly to Florida to stay with him. She was seriously afraid

that they were going to lose him, he was that bad off.

I told her about Oil of Oregano and how it had cleared up my resistant sinus

infection, as well as my skin condition. Then I mentioned the medical

studies that had been done that showed oregano more effective than most

antibiotics against MRSA. So she whipped by the vitamin shop on her way to

the airport and took some with her. Without telling him, she sneaked it

into the food she was preparing for him (I wish she'd been honest with him,

but fortunately it turned out well). She stayed a week, and during that

time he improved enough that she and her husband felt comfortable enough to

leave him to return home.

All last week, he'd been eating the meals she had prepared for him, so was

continuing to be " dosed " with the oregano. Well, yesterday he went back to

the doctor for a checkup, and the doctor declared him free of all infection,

including MRSA.

Carolyn

February 5, 2010

Thanks for posting!

We don't eat onions or garlic. I find garlic horribly offensive and I'm

allergic to it.

She eats plenty of fiber and she has no problems with bowel movements, she goes

twice daily. I give her 25 billion whatevers of Now's vegan probiotic. She

eats apples, pears, broc, caul, and grains daily. We usually have beans with

dinner.

Yes there are vegan yogurts. I find it interesting that people get so pumped

about yogurt for their pro biotic properties that's what the dairy counsel

pushes forever. But if you look now those stupid dairy yogurts say they add

probiotics.

Yogurt is probably one of the worst dairy products one can consume. It also

aids in varicose vein production and hemorrhoids.

Well, I don't think we need to rape cows, murder their male offspring (veal) and

then murder the cows when their production is down in order to get probiotics

especially in a yogurt that has to be fortified anyway. But that's another

story.......

, " slychikadee " <slychikadee

wrote:

>

> Hi, I dont normally post, but wanted to add my two sense. I am gluten-free

(not quite vegan yet) and I never had testing done. I just knew something was

very wrong and I narrowed it down to wheat.I then eliminated wheat and now am