Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 i'm not sure this is true. I read an article in Cooks Illustrated or Cooks Country once, that said the way the recipe is worded is important. 1 C sifted flour (sift, then measure) is different from 1 C flour, sifted (measure, then sift) Amy In a message dated 11/13/2008 8:57:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, mabgsb writes: If you start with a cup or a pound of flour, you will still have the same cup or pound. **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=ht\ t p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Sifting adds air to the dry ingrediants and removes any lumps or foreign objects that might be in the flour etc, it also mixes the dry ingrediants. If you start with a cup or a pound of flour, you will still have the same cup or pound. Group, I am full of questions today, LOL. I have a bread recipe, and if it helps I can post the recipe, and I have a question about sifting. It tells me to sift in the dry ingredients. Now does that mean I get out my sifter and use it? Doesn't sifting change the amount of what I'm using or is sifting in this sense mean something else? Like I said I will post the recipe if it helps answer my question, but keep in mind I have never made this recipe so it is not TNT. Thanks so much again for your help. Hugs, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi, Your question seems quite straightforward. To sift in the dry ingredients yes get out your sieve (I guess this is what your calling your sifter) and sift them in through it. Sifting ingredients adds air so if you where making a sponge cake of something it would help make it light and fluffy. I'm a little puzzled by your comment that sifting ingredients changes the amount because it shouldn't. Hope this helps, Rebecca (Edinburgh) On Behalf Of Mindy-n-Shawn 13 November 2008 16:24 Bread recipe Group, I am full of questions today, LOL. I have a bread recipe, and if it helps I can post the recipe, and I have a question about sifting. It tells me to sift in the dry ingredients. Now does that mean I get out my sifter and use it? Doesn't sifting change the amount of what I'm using or is sifting in this sense mean something else? Like I said I will post the recipe if it helps answer my question, but keep in mind I have never made this recipe so it is not TNT. Thanks so much again for your help. Hugs, Mindy --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 > I'm a little puzzled by your comment that sifting ingredients changes > the amount because it shouldn't. > > Hope this helps, > > Rebecca (Edinburgh) Maybe the confusion arises because one cup of flour packed down or shaken down *weighs* considerably more than a cup of sifted and carefully measured flour. Because the amount of flour in a *cup* can vary so much, I always weigh the ingredients for my bread. And I use metric weights as they're so much easier to work with. ~ irene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I make beautiful breads and I don't sift. I just make sure to stir the dry ingredients well. " I have done my best " , that is about all the philosophy of living that one needs.... Lin-yutang. --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Glenda and Mike at verizon <mabgsb wrote: Glenda and Mike at verizon <mabgsb Re: Bread recipe Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:39 AM Sifting adds air to the dry ingrediants and removes any lumps or foreign objects that might be in the flour etc, it also mixes the dry ingrediants. If you start with a cup or a pound of flour, you will still have the same cup or pound. Group, I am full of questions today, LOL. I have a bread recipe, and if it helps I can post the recipe, and I have a question about sifting. It tells me to sift in the dry ingredients. Now does that mean I get out my sifter and use it? Doesn't sifting change the amount of what I'm using or is sifting in this sense mean something else? Like I said I will post the recipe if it helps answer my question, but keep in mind I have never made this recipe so it is not TNT. Thanks so much again for your help. Hugs, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I always sift my flour. Sometimes the bags or container don't get closed properly (I have 7 kids and a couple of budding bakers)and I want to make sure that there aren't any critters or other stuff in my baked goods. Stephanie Low Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - " Donnalilacflower " <thelilacflower Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:45 AM Re: Bread recipe I make beautiful breads and I don't sift. I just make sure to stir the dry ingredients well. " I have done my best " , that is about all the philosophy of living that one needs.... Lin-yutang. --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Glenda and Mike at verizon <mabgsb wrote: Glenda and Mike at verizon <mabgsb Re: Bread recipe Thursday, November 13, 2008, 8:39 AM Sifting adds air to the dry ingrediants and removes any lumps or foreign objects that might be in the flour etc, it also mixes the dry ingrediants. If you start with a cup or a pound of flour, you will still have the same cup or pound. Group, I am full of questions today, LOL. I have a bread recipe, and if it helps I can post the recipe, and I have a question about sifting. It tells me to sift in the dry ingredients. Now does that mean I get out my sifter and use it? Doesn't sifting change the amount of what I'm using or is sifting in this sense mean something else? Like I said I will post the recipe if it helps answer my question, but keep in mind I have never made this recipe so it is not TNT. Thanks so much again for your help. Hugs, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Well since the word sift is not mentioned until the instructions, I will assume that I don't need to sift the dry ingredients first. That is good information to know anyhow so thank you for that. I also read that Donna does not sift any of her bread ingredients and just makes sure they are mixed well. I think I will start by trying it that way and go from there. Thanks to all you of responded to my question. I always know I can count on this group for any help that I need in the kitchen. Thanks so much. Hugs, Mindy , akfral wrote: > > i'm not sure this is true. I read an article in Cooks Illustrated or Cooks > Country once, that said the way the recipe is worded is important. > 1 C sifted flour (sift, then measure) > is different from > 1 C flour, sifted (measure, then sift) > Amy > > > In a message dated 11/13/2008 8:57:46 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > mabgsb writes: > > If you start with a cup or a pound of flour, you will still have the same cup > or pound. > > > **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=ht\ t > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 measure the amount it says into the sifter and sift it into the recipe. this makes sure there are no lumps and all the dry ingredients are combined Barb --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Mindy-n-Shawn <hunnybunns4233 wrote: Mindy-n-Shawn <hunnybunns4233 Bread recipe Thursday, November 13, 2008, 11:24 AM Group, I am full of questions today, LOL. I have a bread recipe, and if it helps I can post the recipe, and I have a question about sifting. It tells me to sift in the dry ingredients. Now does that mean I get out my sifter and use it? Doesn't sifting change the amount of what I'm using or is sifting in this sense mean something else? Like I said I will post the recipe if it helps answer my question, but keep in mind I have never made this recipe so it is not TNT. Thanks so much again for your help. Hugs, Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 I was always told that a cup of flour was flour compressed into the cup. You then sift to remove any large clumps or anything that slipped by the screening from the milling. i'm not sure this is true. I read an article in Cooks Illustrated or Cooks Country once, that said the way the recipe is worded is important. 1 C sifted flour (sift, then measure) is different from 1 C flour, sifted (measure, then sift) Amy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 This is how I was taught about a million years ago in Home Ec class and have also read it in cookbooks as well as in Cooks Illustrated. Nancy C. i'm not sure this is true. I read an article in Cooks Illustrated or Cooks Country once, that said the way the recipe is worded is important. 1 C sifted flour (sift, then measure) is different from 1 C flour, sifted (measure, then sift) Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 The need for sifting originally was to sift some of the bran out of the flour so your flour would be lighter in order to make a lighter product....pancakes, cakes, muffins, etc. The way flours were made has changed from the time when sifting was first used to remove bran. Both Pillsbury and Gold Medal flours have been " pre-sifted " for years and years....late 60's or early 70's at least maybe. It tells you on the package to lightly spoon flour into the measuring cup and then level it off with the straight edge of a knife and that the " pre-sifting " that the company does negates the need to sift flour before measuring. But, sometimes you just need flour that is even " lighter " than this or that needs to be sifted with other dry ingredients to make sure all of the other ingredients are equally distributed so you sift the flour with the other dry ingredients. When I make an angel food cake, I sift the flour at least 4 or 5 times. I have one old flour sifter, popular about 1915, that has three screens inside and it automatically sifts the flour 3 times....there is a lid on each end and you can turn it over and " re-sift " for so you have sifted the flour for your angel food cake 6 times. It is a neat sifter. But for average baking, " the spoon and level " method is enough unless you are, of course, using a whole grain flour or one that does not " pre-sift " like Pillsbury and Gold Medal. I don't know if King Arthur or Robin Hood flours pre-sift or not. But, the way a recipe is written does give you a clue as to what to do with your flour in making the recipe, as stated below from Cooks Illustrated. Also......if you have flour with " clumps " in it....it has either gotten wet and dried into " clumps " or there is some other problem with the flour.....look at it carefully. Flour is ground from very small whole wheat grains known as wheat berries and in all of my years of baking (about 45 now) I have never found a whole wheat berry, or any " clumps " in any flour I have ever used. Many bakers use a weight scale for total accuracy in baking.....I just use the spoon and level method unless otherwise directed by the recipe and no complaints so far. Nancy C. I was always told that a cup of flour was flour compressed into the cup. You then sift to remove any large clumps or anything that slipped by the screening from the milling. i'm not sure this is true. I read an article in Cooks Illustrated or Cooks Country once, that said the way the recipe is worded is important. 1 C sifted flour (sift, then measure) is different from 1 C flour, sifted (measure, then sift) Amy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Thanks for the clarification... In the UK I always measure things by weight for a recipe - so it will call for 250g of flour or whatever. I can understand where the confusion would arise from with cups! Thanks again, Rebecca (Edinburgh) On Behalf Of irene 13 November 2008 17:44 Re: Bread recipe > I'm a little puzzled by your comment that sifting ingredients changes > the amount because it shouldn't. > > Hope this helps, > > Rebecca (Edinburgh) Maybe the confusion arises because one cup of flour packed down or shaken down *weighs* considerably more than a cup of sifted and carefully measured flour. Because the amount of flour in a *cup* can vary so much, I always weigh the ingredients for my bread. And I use metric weights as they're so much easier to work with. ~ irene --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 GF friends are raving about this recipe from the gluten free club for making bread or hamburger/dinner rolls. Have not tried it myself as I am not fond of tapioca. http://www.glutenfreeclub.com/g/BreadRolls Patricia Squyres Cell: 714 299-6468 Fax: 714 974-7055 p.squyres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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