Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 There was a recent discussion about that on this list. I truly think that a well balanced (vegetarian of course!) is the best choice. The Spatkins diet doesn't like pasta - well of course it isn't good if that's all you eat. Moderation and variety are the key! jennifer coleman [mumto2teens] Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:29 PM Veg-Recipes Cc: mumto2teens hello, I'm new here Hello, I just wanted to say a quick hello to everyone here. I am a fairly new vegetarian, less than a year. My husband and two teens still eat meat and don't plan to stop but they fully support me :-) I have a question. I have heard that soy and tofu aren't good for you. Is this true? I love tofu and eat it at least twice a week. Jenni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Soy beans are part of our American food supply that has been Genetically Modified (includes Round-Up in the seeds). Round-up is a toxic to humans herbicide. Another side effect of soy beans are that they produce an artificial estrogen in the human body, which can cause bad side effects. See : http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/soy_crisis.htm ______________________________\ ____________ jennifer coleman wrote: > > Hello, > > I just wanted to say a quick hello to everyone here. I am a fairly new > vegetarian, less than a year. My husband and two teens still eat meat > and don't plan to stop but they fully support me :-) > > I have a question. I have heard that soy and tofu aren't good for you. > Is this true? I love tofu and eat it at least twice a week. > > Jenni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Genetic modification is the reason American soy is shunned (almost entirely) outside the US. Many products sold here declare explicitly that they contain no GM ingredients, or state the origin of the soy products used as non-American. While scientifically the jury is still out on whether GM products are harmful to health, it seems the general public are voting with their cash and avoiding them as much as possible. Interesting to see today that Monsanto, the leading player in the GM crops industry, has dropped plans for a GM wheat product: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3702739.stm _____ johanssen [johanssen] 11 May 2004 00:05 Veg-Recipes Cc: mumto2teens Re: hello, I'm new here Soy beans are part of our American food supply that has been Genetically Modified (includes Round-Up in the seeds). Round-up is a toxic to humans herbicide. Another side effect of soy beans are that they produce an artificial estrogen in the human body, which can cause bad side effects. See : http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/soy_crisis.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 The phytoeostrogens in soya and some other plants are beneficial to people, lowering incidences of breast cancer and prostate cancer. This is based on population studies in countries where a lot of soya is eaten compared to population studies of countries that don't eat it. The problems arise when the soya is genetically modified when it basically becomes a poison. Luckily in the UK we still have access to non-GM soya. Jo - johanssen Veg-Recipes Cc: mumto2teens Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:05 AM Re: hello, I'm new here Soy beans are part of our American food supply that has been Genetically Modified (includes Round-Up in the seeds). Round-up is a toxic to humans herbicide. Another side effect of soy beans are that they produce an artificial estrogen in the human body, which can cause bad side effects. See : http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/soy_crisis.htm ______________________________\ ____________ jennifer coleman wrote: > > Hello, > > I just wanted to say a quick hello to everyone here. I am a fairly new > vegetarian, less than a year. My husband and two teens still eat meat > and don't plan to stop but they fully support me :-) > > I have a question. I have heard that soy and tofu aren't good for you. > Is this true? I love tofu and eat it at least twice a week. > > Jenni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Hi, My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrohsis with varices of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt. No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver. Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand that. No artificial sweatners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice for someone with HepC and cirrohsis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can you find stuff that you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we have a health food store in our town anymore. God Bless You, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 See if they have any Amy's Kitchen products in your area. Not all are gluten free and not all are vegan, but they are all vegetarian, so depending on where you are on the spectrum of vegetarianism and if soy is ok, you'll at least have a few products that you can microwave. They have a baked ziti kids meal (which is good for adults too), a couple different rice crust pizzas, they just came out with a non-dairy rice mac & cheese, and they have some rice bowls and a thai and asian meals that are GF. Also have some soups and chili in cans that can be dumped in a bowl and microwaved. I think the website is www.amyskitchen.com where you can look up all the gf products they have. I think they just came out with some cakes too, but I'm not sure how they're sweetened. I had to go totally grain free, soy free, and I can't eat onions or garlic, on top of a million other things, so I've kinda lost track of what all is available since I can't eat none of it! lol Good luck to you and I hope the diet will help releive some of your pain if nothing else! Hang in there! On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:58 PM, flowerchild700 <Sheabell7000wrote: > > > Hi, > My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrohsis with > varices of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut > out salt. No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a > long time I'd be better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver > got worse. Recently I heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because > gluten was hard on the liver. Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. > Come On what can I eat!!! I used to think at least I'm not diebetic like my > Brothers, I don't think I could stand that. No artificial sweatners either, > bad for the liver. They say fruit juice for someone with HepC and cirrohsis > is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or without sugar are out. I don't feel > Like cooking much so I found these little healthy choise frozen meals with > whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I heard about the no gluten thing. > Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can you find stuff that you don't > have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is > hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I > stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we > have a health food store in our town anymore. > God Bless You, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Hi Jenny; It sounds to me like you are having a tough transition from the Standard American Diet (SAD) to a healthy one! I feel for you! I resisted for a whole year until I got to the point of thinking I had nothing left to lose before making the necessary changes. The improvements I gained though, were so far beyond my wildest imagination, I was convinced in a very short time that it was worth the effort. Without salt, sugar, meat, juice... what can you eat, you ask? Answer: a gluten free, whole foods vegan diet just like all of us! ... fresh, whole fruits and veggies, plain nuts and seeds, whole grains and legumes. It may seem bland for the first few days but your taste buds wake up quite quickly, so hang in there with it. There are salt free seasonings on the market too. In my area, I get Mrs. Dash in a little shaker in the herb & spice isle... tasty and convenient! The fresh fruits and veggies can be eaten raw (good for you!) if you don't much like to cook. If you'd prefer them lightly steamed maybe, that's easy enough and just takes minutes. You can get lots of varieties of plain, unflavoured legumes in cans: kidney beans, lentils, etc. No cooking required although they are a LOT cheaper to prepare them yourself at home. Try a few different types until you find some that you really like. Gluten free whole grains like teff, quinoa, buckwheat cook up in 20 minutes in a pot with water, like rice. Brown rice takes a little longer than white but none of them are complicated or difficult. So, you make some rice on the side with a cupful of some kidney beans, with some fresh fruit and a big salad... meal fit for a Queen! ...easy, quick, almost no cooking, and your health will LOVE it. Deborah Hi, My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrohsis with varices of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt. No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver. Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand that. No artificial sweatners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice for someone with HepC and cirrohsis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can you find stuff that you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we have a health food store in our town anymore. God Bless You, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2010 Report Share Posted May 12, 2010 If you are within 25 miles of a Sprouts, Henrys, whole foods or Trader Joes-all have booklets with a list of vegan and gluten free items (canned, boxed jarred and frozen) they carry -you just need to cross reference from there. Bigger grocery stores are also getting on the GF bandwagon. Once you start feeling better eating pre pkgd --you may then want to start preparing meals yourself --- divide your plate with half raw or lightly steamed vegs, salad or greens, one fourth GF grains, and one fourth protein like beans, lentils, tofu, gf tempeh, Amy's gf burgers...... (A combo of grains and protein like beans and rice, sauted lentils, red quinoa, and mushrooms, polenta and a veg ragu, gf spaghetti and chunky sauce could then be half your plate) " Gluten free " and " Living Without " are good magazines -just sub vegan items where you can in recipes (they help with egg free substitutes) and ignore the ones you can't. --and there are tons of recipes at the gluten free vegan website among others. Just look at all those our illustrious leader sent out today!!!! You are not alone......one day at a time Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry " flowerchild700 " <Sheabell7000 Mon, 10 May 2010 22:58:07 Hello, I'm New here Hi, My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrohsis with varices of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt. No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver. Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand that. No artificial sweatners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice for someone with HepC and cirrohsis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can you find stuff that you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we have a health food store in our town anymore. God Bless You, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 , " flowerchild700 " <Sheabell7000 wrote: > > Hi, > My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrhosis with varices of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt. No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver. Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand that. No artificial sweetners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice for someone with HepC and cirrhosis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can you find stuff that you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we have a health food store in our town anymore. > God Bless You, > Thank you all for your wonderful answers they've all been a big help. I have heard there's a Whole Foods and a Trader Joes (?) in Chapel Hill wHich isnt to awfully far a way. I'll diffinatly check it out when I get a car on the road. We already started getting Fresh Veggies from the commuunity garden at my Church. So thats good and I found out wher the Farmers Market is for things I can't get there. Some of the things you've mentioned I've never heard of but, I got some organic Tofu the last time I went to Wallmart, and mixed some up in a little stir Fry. I'll learn about the other things. Well I'm going to have a salad for with pecans ( I think I've still got some ) well anyway with sunflower seeds and rasins and pineapple. Hows that sound? With no bread crumbs. (But maybe a little cheese) God Bless You all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Good for you - you are on your way............ Eventually you might want to give up the high fat cheese - it can easily cause headaches, sinus issues and weight gain - and begin to substitute vegan parmesan ---either Parma (w/walnuts) or Vegetarian Express (w/almonds) versions are very tasty, with 2 gms of fat per serving. Making your parmesan 'cheese' is easy using 2 parts finely ground almonds or walnuts to one part nutritional yeast blended with a little bit of salt. Follow Your Heart vegan gourmet cheeses are good though 4gms of fat per serving. Neil Barnard's Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) has written many wonderful vegan books, one called " Reversing Diabetes Now " has a good scrambled dry " egg " mix to keep in the refrig to sprinkle in the skillet over tofu and veg add ins: 1 cup Nutritional yeast, 5 tbsp+1tsp onion powder, 4 tsp curry powder, 4 tsp salt, 4 tsp ground tumeric, and 4 tsp ground cumin. I keep this in a shaker in the refrig to sprinkle about 1 1/2 tsp over each 1/2 cup extra firm silken or regular tofu for occasional breakfasts. Look for the GF versions of all the spices, of course. one meal at a time........ Patricia Squyres Cell: 714 299-6468 Fax: 714 974-7055 p.squyres If we don't change our direction, we're likely to end up where we are headed. (old Chinese Proverb) --- On Wed, 5/12/10, flowerchild700 <Sheabell7000 wrote: flowerchild700 <Sheabell7000 Re: Hello, I'm New here Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 4:57 PM  , " flowerchild700 " <Sheabell7000 wrote: > > Hi, > My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrhosis with varices of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt. No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver. Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand that. No artificial sweetners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice for someone with HepC and cirrhosis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can you find stuff that you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we have a health food store in our town anymore. > God Bless You, > Thank you all for your wonderful answers they've all been a big help. I have heard there's a Whole Foods and a Trader Joes (?) in Chapel Hill wHich isnt to awfully far a way. I'll diffinatly check it out when I get a car on the road. We already started getting Fresh Veggies from the commuunity garden at my Church. So thats good and I found out wher the Farmers Market is for things I can't get there. Some of the things you've mentioned I've never heard of but, I got some organic Tofu the last time I went to Wallmart, and mixed some up in a little stir Fry. I'll learn about the other things. Well I'm going to have a salad for with pecans ( I think I've still got some ) well anyway with sunflower seeds and rasins and pineapple. Hows that sound? With no bread crumbs. (But maybe a little cheese) God Bless You all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2010 Report Share Posted May 13, 2010 Hi Jenny; I'm glad to hear you sounding happier and more hopeful now! I agree with Patricia though about the cheese. Since you have some serious health issues, holding onto cheese is very likely to only hold back your healing. I totally understand how tough it can be to give it up, it's very addictive stuff. If you want information about that to help motivate you, just let us know. Deborah Thank you all for your wonderful answers they've all been a big help. I have heard there's a Whole Foods and a Trader Joes (?) in Chapel Hill wHich isnt to awfully far a way. I'll diffinatly check it out when I get a car on the road. We already started getting Fresh Veggies from the commuunity garden at my Church. So thats good and I found out wher the Farmers Market is for things I can't get there. Some of the things you've mentioned I've never heard of but, I got some organic Tofu the last time I went to Wallmart, and mixed some up in a little stir Fry. I'll learn about the other things. Well I'm going to have a salad for with pecans ( I think I've still got some ) well anyway with sunflower seeds and rasins and pineapple. Hows that sound? With no bread crumbs. (But maybe a little cheese) God Bless You all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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