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There was a recent discussion about that on this list. I truly think

that a well balanced (vegetarian of course!) is the best choice. The

Spatkins diet doesn't like pasta - well of course it isn't good if

that's all you eat. Moderation and variety are the key!

 

 

jennifer coleman [mumto2teens]

Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:29 PM

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hello, I'm new here

 

 

Hello,

 

I just wanted to say a quick hello to everyone here. I am a fairly new

vegetarian, less than a year. My husband and two teens still eat meat

and don't plan to stop but they fully support me :-)

 

I have a question. I have heard that soy and tofu aren't good for you.

Is this true? I love tofu and eat it at least twice a week.

 

Jenni

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Soy beans are part of our American food supply that has been Genetically

Modified (includes Round-Up in the seeds). Round-up is a toxic to

humans herbicide. Another side effect of soy beans are that they

produce an artificial estrogen

in the human body, which can cause bad side effects. See :

http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/soy_crisis.htm

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jennifer coleman wrote:

 

>

> Hello,

>

> I just wanted to say a quick hello to everyone here. I am a fairly new

> vegetarian, less than a year. My husband and two teens still eat meat

> and don't plan to stop but they fully support me :-)

>

> I have a question. I have heard that soy and tofu aren't good for you.

> Is this true? I love tofu and eat it at least twice a week.

>

> Jenni

>

>

 

 

 

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Genetic modification is the reason American soy is shunned (almost entirely)

outside the US. Many products sold here declare explicitly that they contain

no GM ingredients, or state the origin of the soy products used as

non-American. While scientifically the jury is still out on whether GM

products are harmful to health, it seems the general public are voting with

their cash and avoiding them as much as possible.

 

Interesting to see today that Monsanto, the leading player in the GM crops

industry, has dropped plans for a GM wheat product:

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3702739.stm

 

 

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johanssen [johanssen]

11 May 2004 00:05

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Re: hello, I'm new here

 

 

Soy beans are part of our American food supply that has been Genetically

Modified (includes Round-Up in the seeds). Round-up is a toxic to

humans herbicide. Another side effect of soy beans are that they

produce an artificial estrogen

in the human body, which can cause bad side effects. See :

http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/soy_crisis.htm

 

 

 

 

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The phytoeostrogens in soya and some other plants are beneficial to people,

lowering incidences of breast cancer and prostate cancer. This is based on

population studies in countries where a lot of soya is eaten compared to

population studies of countries that don't eat it. The problems arise when the

soya is genetically modified when it basically becomes a poison. Luckily in the

UK we still have access to non-GM soya.

 

Jo

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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:05 AM

Re: hello, I'm new here

 

 

Soy beans are part of our American food supply that has been Genetically

Modified (includes Round-Up in the seeds). Round-up is a toxic to

humans herbicide. Another side effect of soy beans are that they

produce an artificial estrogen

in the human body, which can cause bad side effects. See :

http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/8/soy_crisis.htm

______________________________\

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jennifer coleman wrote:

 

>

> Hello,

>

> I just wanted to say a quick hello to everyone here. I am a fairly new

> vegetarian, less than a year. My husband and two teens still eat meat

> and don't plan to stop but they fully support me :-)

>

> I have a question. I have heard that soy and tofu aren't good for you.

> Is this true? I love tofu and eat it at least twice a week.

>

> Jenni

>

>

 

 

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Hi,

My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrohsis with varices

of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt.

No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be

better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I

heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver.

Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used

to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand

that. No artificial sweatners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice

for someone with HepC and cirrohsis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or

without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little

healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I

heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can

you find stuff that you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep.

Right now my back is hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly

stand it, and I stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I

don't think we have a health food store in our town anymore.

God Bless You,

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See if they have any Amy's Kitchen products in your area. Not all are gluten

free and not all are vegan, but they are all vegetarian, so depending on

where you are on the spectrum of vegetarianism and if soy is ok, you'll at

least have a few products that you can microwave. They have a baked ziti

kids meal (which is good for adults too), a couple different rice crust

pizzas, they just came out with a non-dairy rice mac & cheese, and they have

some rice bowls and a thai and asian meals that are GF. Also have some soups

and chili in cans that can be dumped in a bowl and microwaved. I think the

website is www.amyskitchen.com where you can look up all the gf products

they have. I think they just came out with some cakes too, but I'm not sure

how they're sweetened. I had to go totally grain free, soy free, and I can't

eat onions or garlic, on top of a million other things, so I've kinda lost

track of what all is available since I can't eat none of it! lol

Good luck to you and I hope the diet will help releive some of your pain if

nothing else! Hang in there! :)

 

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:58 PM, flowerchild700 <Sheabell7000wrote:

 

>

>

> Hi,

> My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrohsis with

> varices of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut

> out salt. No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a

> long time I'd be better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver

> got worse. Recently I heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because

> gluten was hard on the liver. Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either.

> Come On what can I eat!!! I used to think at least I'm not diebetic like my

> Brothers, I don't think I could stand that. No artificial sweatners either,

> bad for the liver. They say fruit juice for someone with HepC and cirrohsis

> is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or without sugar are out. I don't feel

> Like cooking much so I found these little healthy choise frozen meals with

> whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I heard about the no gluten thing.

> Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can you find stuff that you don't

> have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is

> hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I

> stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we

> have a health food store in our town anymore.

> God Bless You,

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Hi Jenny;

 

 

 

It sounds to me like you are having a tough transition from the Standard

American Diet (SAD) to a healthy one! I feel for you! I resisted for a

whole year until I got to the point of thinking I had nothing left to lose

before making the necessary changes. The improvements I gained though,

were so far beyond my wildest imagination, I was convinced in a very short

time that it was worth the effort.

 

 

 

Without salt, sugar, meat, juice... what can you eat, you ask? Answer: a

gluten free, whole foods vegan diet just like all of us! ... fresh, whole

fruits and veggies, plain nuts and seeds, whole grains and legumes.

 

 

 

It may seem bland for the first few days but your taste buds wake up quite

quickly, so hang in there with it. There are salt free seasonings on the

market too. In my area, I get Mrs. Dash in a little shaker in the herb &

spice isle... tasty and convenient!

 

 

 

The fresh fruits and veggies can be eaten raw (good for you!) if you don't

much like to cook. If you'd prefer them lightly steamed maybe, that's easy

enough and just takes minutes.

 

 

 

You can get lots of varieties of plain, unflavoured legumes in cans: kidney

beans, lentils, etc. No cooking required although they are a LOT cheaper to

prepare them yourself at home. Try a few different types until you find

some that you really like.

 

 

 

Gluten free whole grains like teff, quinoa, buckwheat cook up in 20 minutes

in a pot with water, like rice. Brown rice takes a little longer than white

but none of them are complicated or difficult.

 

 

 

So, you make some rice on the side with a cupful of some kidney beans, with

some fresh fruit and a big salad... meal fit for a Queen! ...easy, quick,

almost no cooking, and your health will LOVE it.

 

 

 

Deborah

 

Hi,

My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrohsis with

varices of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut

out salt. No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a

long time I'd be better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver

got worse. Recently I heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because

gluten was hard on the liver. Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either.

Come On what can I eat!!! I used to think at least I'm not diebetic like my

Brothers, I don't think I could stand that. No artificial sweatners either,

bad for the liver. They say fruit juice for someone with HepC and cirrohsis

is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or without sugar are out. I don't feel

Like cooking much so I found these little healthy choise frozen meals with

whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I heard about the no gluten thing.

Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can you find stuff that you don't

have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is

hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I

stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we

have a health food store in our town anymore.

God Bless You,

 

 

 

 

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If you are within 25 miles of a Sprouts, Henrys, whole foods or Trader Joes-all

have booklets with a list of vegan and gluten free items (canned, boxed jarred

and frozen) they carry -you just need to cross reference from there. Bigger

grocery stores are also getting on the GF bandwagon. Once you start feeling

better eating pre pkgd --you may then want to start preparing meals yourself ---

divide your plate with half raw or lightly steamed vegs, salad or greens, one

fourth GF grains, and one fourth protein like beans, lentils, tofu, gf tempeh,

Amy's gf burgers...... (A combo of grains and protein like beans and rice,

sauted lentils, red quinoa, and mushrooms, polenta and a veg ragu, gf spaghetti

and chunky sauce could then be half your plate)

 

" Gluten free " and " Living Without " are good magazines -just sub vegan items

where you can in recipes (they help with egg free substitutes) and ignore the

ones you can't. --and there are tons of recipes at the gluten free vegan

website among others.

Just look at all those our illustrious leader sent out today!!!!

You are not alone......one day at a time

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 

 

" flowerchild700 " <Sheabell7000

Mon, 10 May 2010 22:58:07

 

Hello, I'm New here

 

Hi,

My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrohsis with varices

of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt.

No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be

better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I

heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver.

Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used

to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand

that. No artificial sweatners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice

for someone with HepC and cirrohsis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or

without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little

healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I

heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can

you find stuff that you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep.

Right now my back is hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly

stand it, and I stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I

don't think we have a health food store in our town anymore.

God Bless You,

 

 

 

 

 

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, " flowerchild700 "

<Sheabell7000 wrote:

>

> Hi,

> My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrhosis with varices

of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt.

No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be

better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I

heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver.

Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used

to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand

that. No artificial sweetners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice

for someone with HepC and cirrhosis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or

without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little

healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I

heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can

you find stuff that you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep.

Right now my back is hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly

stand it, and I stay so tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I

don't think we have a health food store in our town anymore.

> God Bless You,

>

Thank you all for your wonderful answers they've all been a big help. I have

heard there's a Whole Foods and a Trader Joes (?) in Chapel Hill wHich isnt to

awfully far a way. I'll diffinatly check it out when I get a car on the road. We

already started getting Fresh Veggies from the commuunity garden at my Church.

So thats good and I found out wher the Farmers Market is for things I can't get

there. Some of the things you've mentioned I've never heard of but, I got some

organic Tofu the last time I went to Wallmart, and mixed some up in a little

stir Fry. I'll learn about the other things. Well I'm going to have a salad for

with pecans ( I think I've still got some ) well anyway with sunflower seeds and

rasins and pineapple. Hows that sound? With no bread crumbs. (But maybe a little

cheese)

God Bless You all.

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Good for you - you are on your way............

 

Eventually you might want to give up the high fat cheese - it can easily cause

headaches, sinus issues and weight gain - and begin to substitute vegan parmesan

---either Parma (w/walnuts) or Vegetarian Express (w/almonds) versions are very

tasty, with 2 gms of fat per serving. Making your parmesan 'cheese' is easy

using 2 parts finely ground almonds or walnuts to one part nutritional yeast

blended with a little bit of salt.  Follow Your Heart vegan gourmet cheeses are

good though 4gms of fat per serving.

 

Neil Barnard's Physician's Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) has written

many wonderful vegan books, one called " Reversing Diabetes Now " has a good

scrambled dry " egg " mix to keep in the refrig to sprinkle in the skillet over

tofu and veg add ins: 1 cup Nutritional yeast, 5 tbsp+1tsp onion powder, 4 tsp

curry powder, 4 tsp salt, 4 tsp ground tumeric, and 4 tsp ground cumin. I keep

this in a shaker in the refrig to sprinkle about 1 1/2 tsp over each 1/2 cup

extra firm silken or regular tofu for occasional breakfasts. Look for the GF

versions of all the spices, of course.

 

one meal at a time........

 

Patricia Squyres

Cell: 714 299-6468  Fax: 714 974-7055

p.squyres

If we don't change our direction, we're likely to end up where we are headed.

(old Chinese Proverb)

 

 

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flowerchild700 <Sheabell7000

Re: Hello, I'm New here

 

Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 4:57 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " flowerchild700 "

<Sheabell7000 wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi,

 

> My name is Jenny. I joined here recently. I have Hep C, Cirrhosis with varices

of the stomach and Fibromanalia. They told me three years ago to cut out salt.

No big deal, I'm not a big salt eater anyway. I've known for a long time I'd be

better off not eating meat, but, I kept on until my liver got worse. Recently I

heard that I sould try a gluten free diet because gluten was hard on the liver.

Now they tell me I shouldn't eat sugar either. Come On what can I eat!!! I used

to think at least I'm not diebetic like my Brothers, I don't think I could stand

that. No artificial sweetners either, bad for the liver. They say fruit juice

for someone with HepC and cirrhosis is as bad as wine. Soft drinks with or

without sugar are out. I don't feel Like cooking much so I found these little

healthy choise frozen meals with whole grains olive oil and no meat. Then I

heard about the no gluten thing. Where can you get no gluten stuff anyway. Can

you find stuff that

you don't have to cook, or that takes a whole lot of prep. Right now my back is

hurting so bad from sitting up writing this I can hardly stand it, and I stay so

tired I can hardly hold my head up sometimes. Also I don't think we have a

health food store in our town anymore.

 

> God Bless You,

 

>

 

Thank you all for your wonderful answers they've all been a big help. I have

heard there's a Whole Foods and a Trader Joes (?) in Chapel Hill wHich isnt to

awfully far a way. I'll diffinatly check it out when I get a car on the road. We

already started getting Fresh Veggies from the commuunity garden at my Church.

So thats good and I found out wher the Farmers Market is for things I can't get

there. Some of the things you've mentioned I've never heard of but, I got some

organic Tofu the last time I went to Wallmart, and mixed some up in a little

stir Fry. I'll learn about the other things. Well I'm going to have a salad for

with pecans ( I think I've still got some ) well anyway with sunflower seeds and

rasins and pineapple. Hows that sound? With no bread crumbs. (But maybe a little

cheese)

 

God Bless You all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Jenny;

 

I'm glad to hear you sounding happier and more hopeful now!

 

I agree with Patricia though about the cheese. Since you have some serious

health issues, holding onto cheese is very likely to only hold back your

healing.

 

I totally understand how tough it can be to give it up, it's very addictive

stuff. If you want information about that to help motivate you, just let us

know.

 

Deborah

 

 

Thank you all for your wonderful answers they've all been a big help. I have

heard there's a Whole Foods and a Trader Joes (?) in Chapel Hill wHich isnt

to awfully far a way. I'll diffinatly check it out when I get a car on the

road. We already started getting Fresh Veggies from the commuunity garden at

my Church. So thats good and I found out wher the Farmers Market is for

things I can't get there. Some of the things you've mentioned I've never

heard of but, I got some organic Tofu the last time I went to Wallmart, and

mixed some up in a little stir Fry. I'll learn about the other things. Well

I'm going to have a salad for with pecans ( I think I've still got some )

well anyway with sunflower seeds and rasins and pineapple. Hows that sound?

With no bread crumbs. (But maybe a little cheese)

God Bless You all.

 

 

 

 

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