Overweight and dehydration (WAS: Living lean: (Question For Elchanan))

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Hi Sharon,

 

My backlog cleanup continues. This thread originates in my post # 29497 in

response to your question about overweight and hydration (bottom, below).

This posts responds to your follow-up question, immediately below.

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Another great question, Sharon!

 

Actually, I'm saying somewhat the opposite. Fatty tissues contain in the

range of 5% water, a marked contrast with the 70% water content (give or

take) of our body overall. An example may help:

 

Let's imagine a man, 5'8 " tall (approximately 173 cm. long), lean and

muscular, weighing about 130 pounds (mass = approximately 286 kg), body fat

at 10% (on the borderline between great health and okay health). Not let's

imagine our man gaining 40 pounds next year, of which 25 pounds is added

body fat.

 

The body does not add fat cells. Rather, it expands the existing cells to

store additional fat. Why? Nature's design never contemplated obesity in our

species.

 

So we've picked up 25 pounds of body fat and an additional 15 pounds of

mostly water weight. (Of course, there would be added fecal backlog and so

forth, let's assume that out of our example to keep it simple.) Almost NONE

of that water weight is used constructively; it is all being used to store

waterborne foreign matter, and a portion also is used in the expanded fat

cells. In addition, we need to expand the blood supply to nourish those

expanded fat cells and the tissues that have expanded to hold all that water

weight. Our man has become a garbage scowl.

 

At the same time, we've increased the burden on the heart, lungs ...

basically every system and organ in this man's body is under stress. Sugar

metabolism is impaired, the blood is filled with salt and therefore has

changed its physical and electrical characteristics, organs are overworked

and expanding (working overtime, as it were) in a vein attempt to keep up

the the demands of the system.

 

Our man's body is chronically short on oxygen and water ... the organs

simply are not designed to process at this level of demand. The body adapts

to the very best of its ability ... and part of that adaptation involves

reallocation of resources that are in short supply. What is the first

resource that is in short supply? Water! Why? Because:

 

1. Much water is being diverted toward garbage management.

2. The fatty tissue contains little water, dramatically lowering the body's

overall average.

3. The fatty tissue itself requires nourishment, an additional diversion

(above and beyond garbage management, in a sense).

 

And so forth. Does this help?

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

vegigran

Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:46 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Overweight and dehydration (WAS: Living lean:

(Question For Elchanan))

 

 

Hi Elchanan, Are you saying that the stored, structured fat as it increases

is taking water needed by our bodies and leaving us dehydrated? Kind of

confusing. Sharon In our hearts we plan our day, but it is God who

determines our steps. Proverbs 16:9

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Hi Sharon,

 

Great question.

 

Overall, a healthy human body is comprised, in part, of about 70-75% water.

 

Stored, structured fat contains about 5% water, give or take a bit. So as

the percentage of fat increases, the percentage of water necessarily

decreases proportionately.

 

At the same time, our system is committed (biologically committed) to

maintaining all that extra material we have made a part of ourselves. This

means supplying that material with circulation ... heart pumping, fuel and

other nutrients being expended, etc., 24x7. We we INCREASE our

physiological or metabolic requirement for water, even as we decrease the

percent of water that is us. Ergo, we are dehydrated, 24x7.

 

There is more ... but does this much make sense, for now?

 

Best to all, Elchanan

 

PS: I publish most of my posts in the PathOfHealth Group.

 

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Sharon

<vegigran<vegigran Wednesday, May 23,

2007 10:11 AM

Re: [Raw Food] Living lean: (Question For Elchanan)

 

Elchanan,

 

I think I read where you once said that if we were " overweight " we could

tend to be " dehydrated " . What is the reason for this?

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

 

[...]

 

> The body does not add fat cells. Rather, it expands the existing

cells to

> store additional fat. Why? Nature's design never contemplated

obesity in our

> species.

 

[...]

 

Not necessarily obviating your points, but a little

correction is in order. Fat cell count is, in fact,

modifiable. For example,

 

http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v30/n6/abs/0803219a.html

 

There is also another recent study finding alternate-day

fasting (ADF) to increase the number. Which explains why

dieters often regain to an ever higher weight than before

they started.

 

From http://www.jlr.org/cgi/reprint/M700223-JLR200v1:

 

" This finding suggests that adipocyte number, and hence,

adipogenesis, was increased in the ADF-50% and ADF-100%

groups. Since augmented adipocyte differentiation has

been linked to improved insulin sensitivity (23),

an increase in fat cell number in these ADF groups may

have beneficial effects for future diabetes risk. "

 

Here's another, that says " Increases in adipoctye number

occur via replication and differentiation in preadipoctyes,

a process which occurs throughout life. "

 

http://www.clinsci.org/cs/092/cs0920003.htm

 

 

-Erin

http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " Erin " <truepatriot wrote:

 

[...]

 

> From http://www.jlr.org/cgi/reprint/M700223-JLR200v1:

>

> " This finding suggests that adipocyte number, and hence,

> adipogenesis, was increased in the ADF-50% and ADF-100%

> groups. Since augmented adipocyte differentiation has

> been linked to improved insulin sensitivity (23),

> an increase in fat cell number in these ADF groups may

> have beneficial effects for future diabetes risk. "

 

[...]

 

The above link married itself to the colon and would

not open as such. Here it is without the appendage:

 

http://www.jlr.org/cgi/reprint/M700223-JLR200v1

 

 

-Erin

http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog