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Remove the animal food AND the grains. Most, if not all, of the arthritis

will abate over time. To accelerate this process dramatically, remove these

items, then eat well for a bit, then fast on water alone.

 

I once helped a 70-something woman who could no longer touch her fingers to

her thumb. After a 5-day fast, she regained substantial use of her hand, and

the pain was greatly diminished. (I did not recommend that she break the

fast at that point, but she had " family obligations " .)

 

Please note that any return to the animal foods/grains will produce renewed

arthritic symptoms almost instantaneously. The body remembers all. Once it

has learned to create arthritic symptoms in response to certain foods, it

" jumps right on it " .

 

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:03 AM

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But if you remove the animal food, will it reverse the arthritis? or

once you have arthritis, you have it and the removal of animal type

food, just reduces the symptoms and keeps it from progressing.

 

Belinda

 

 

 

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Grains as in all grains? not just wheat?

 

Eat well, as in veggies only with some nuts and seeds, no grains of

any kind?

 

How long of a water fast?

How about a fresh juice fast. I think I would faint on water alone

for very long.

I get very dizzy and faint feeling if I go too long without eating.

 

Belinda

 

 

> Remove the animal food AND the grains. Most, if not all, of the

arthritis

> will abate over time. To accelerate this process dramatically,

remove these

> items, then eat well for a bit, then fast on water alone.

>

> I once helped a 70-something woman who could no longer touch her

fingers to

> her thumb. After a 5-day fast, she regained substantial use of her

hand, and

> the pain was greatly diminished. (I did not recommend that she

break the

> fast at that point, but she had " family obligations " .)

>

> Please note that any return to the animal foods/grains will produce

renewed

> arthritic symptoms almost instantaneously. The body remembers all.

Once it

> has learned to create arthritic symptoms in response to certain

foods, it

> " jumps right on it " .

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Belinda

> Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:03 AM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Grains and arthritis ... why Pritikin failed

>

>

> But if you remove the animal food, will it reverse the arthritis?

or

> once you have arthritis, you have it and the removal of animal type

> food, just reduces the symptoms and keeps it from progressing.

>

> Belinda

>

>

>

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Hi Belinda,

 

Regarding grains, yes, grains in general. If you can identify a single

grain, such that when in the presence of that grain growing on the plant,

you salivate, then by all means try eating that grain.

 

Regarding your fasting question, as I wrote earlier to Caron, at some point

people cross from requests for general information into requests for

individual coaching. Please contact me privately if you wish.

 

Best,

Elchanan

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Belinda

Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:46 AM

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Pritikin failed

 

 

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=33133/stime=1184258803/nc1=3848432/nc2=4025373/nc3=4725792> Grains as in

all grains? not just wheat?

 

Eat well, as in veggies only with some nuts and seeds, no grains of

any kind?

 

How long of a water fast?

How about a fresh juice fast. I think I would faint on water alone

for very long.

I get very dizzy and faint feeling if I go too long without eating.

 

Belinda

 

 

 

 

 

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> Regarding grains, yes, grains in general. If you can identify a single

> grain, such that when in the presence of that grain growing on the

plant,

> you salivate, then by all means try eating that grain.

 

 

Oh you mean like...........fresh corn? :o)

 

> Regarding your fasting question, as I wrote earlier to Caron, at some

point

> people cross from requests for general information into requests for

> individual coaching. Please contact me privately if you wish.

 

 

Well, I guess that would be a " no " to the juice fast instead of the

water fast. :o)

 

It's not that important anyway. But Thanks (I am not ready for either

one right now)

 

 

Belinda

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Yes .... But ...

 

Here is the distinction...be in the presence of fresh corn ON THE PLANT.

That's what I said. Corn eaten within the first minute or two after picking

is an entirely different food--in terms of its chemistry--than all

subsequent corn. (I know, the phrase " subsequent corn " sounds a bit weird.)

Shortly after picking, the sugars in the corn turn to a heavy starchy

substance that is very difficult, if not impossible, for our systems to

digest well. Also, the taste and scent change dramatically.

 

If you conduct this experiment, what I anticipate you'll experience is that

your awareness sharpens, and your responds more " enthusiastically " while the

corn is on the stalk and during that first minute or two, than otherwise.

This contrasts with, say, how we might respond to nice, ripe

nectarines...our response maintains for some time.after the fruits are

picked.

 

Also, try eating fresh corn on an empty ... completely empty ... stomach and

really pay attention to how your system responds over a period of hours.

Don't eat anything else for many hours, just give yourself time and

opportunity to observe.

 

Best,

Elchanan

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Belinda

Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:23 PM

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[Raw Food] Re: Animals Foods + Grains and arthritis ... why

Pritikin failed

 

 

> Regarding grains, yes, grains in general. If you can identify a single

grain, such that when in the presence of that grain growing on the

plant, you salivate, then by all means try eating that grain.

 

Oh you mean like...........fresh corn? :o)

 

 

 

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Ooooo sounds like a fun and yummy experiment to do. I will be

driving around looking for a cornfield to raid.

 

I wish I just had time to grow my own stuff. One of these days, I am

going to do just that.

 

Belinda

 

 

 

> Yes .... But ...

>

> Here is the distinction...be in the presence of fresh corn ON THE

PLANT.

> That's what I said. Corn eaten within the first minute or two after

picking

> is an entirely different food--in terms of its chemistry--than all

> subsequent corn. (I know, the phrase " subsequent corn " sounds a bit

weird.)

> Shortly after picking, the sugars in the corn turn to a heavy

starchy

> substance that is very difficult, if not impossible, for our

systems to

> digest well. Also, the taste and scent change dramatically.

>

> If you conduct this experiment, what I anticipate you'll experience

is that

> your awareness sharpens, and your responds more " enthusiastically "

while the

> corn is on the stalk and during that first minute or two, than

otherwise.

> This contrasts with, say, how we might respond to nice, ripe

> nectarines...our response maintains for some time.after the fruits

are

> picked.

>

> Also, try eating fresh corn on an empty ... completely empty ...

stomach and

> really pay attention to how your system responds over a period of

hours.

> Don't eat anything else for many hours, just give yourself time and

> opportunity to observe.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Belinda

> Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:23 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Animals Foods + Grains and arthritis ... why

> Pritikin failed

>

>

> > Regarding grains, yes, grains in general. If you can identify a

single

> grain, such that when in the presence of that grain growing on the

> plant, you salivate, then by all means try eating that grain.

>

> Oh you mean like...........fresh corn? :o)

>

>

>

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Arthritis is not a " real " terminal disease, just a symptom.

Elchanojn is absolutey right that the acidity of animal foods especially will

incur disease. We had a 92 yr old at Creative Health who was so crumpled up (for

lack of a better term). In weeks she was DANCING. And strolling outside. On her

alkalizing live food diet (sprouts, salad, energy soup, wheatgrass). It was such

a joy. A 22 yr old with rheumatoid arthritis flew in from AFRICA. Within 12 days

she was a landslide better. Like diabetes it doesn't just respond, it responds

QUICK. Animal foods are just the worst you can do for health short of

excitoxins. Even excitoxins aren't ruining the environment, though. ;-) Please

look into the documentary EATING at www.ravediet.com. It is PHENEMONAL and

life-changing. Erica

 

 

 

 

 

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I found the link interesting. The only question I have is: What makes this

diet any better than say, Alissa Cohen's, or any of the other " raw diet "

proponents?

 

Just curious because I can't afford to purchase both of their books/dvd's. I

was saving up for Alissa's.

 

 

Jeannie

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

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Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:26:03 PM

[Raw Food] Re:Animals Foods + Grains and arthritis ... why Pritikin

failed

 

 

Arthritis is not a " real " terminal disease, just a symptom.

Elchanojn is absolutey right that the acidity of animal foods especially will

incur disease. We had a 92 yr old at Creative Health who was so crumpled up (for

lack of a better term). In weeks she was DANCING. And strolling outside. On her

alkalizing live food diet (sprouts, salad, energy soup, wheatgrass). It was such

a joy. A 22 yr old with rheumatoid arthritis flew in from AFRICA. Within 12 days

she was a landslide better. Like diabetes it doesn't just respond, it responds

QUICK. Animal foods are just the worst you can do for health short of

excitoxins. Even excitoxins aren't ruining the environment, though. ;-) Please

look into the documentary EATING at www.ravediet.com. It is PHENEMONAL and

life-changing. Erica

 

 

 

 

 

Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.

 

 

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Jeannie,

 

This question has been answered at least a hundred times within the past

couple of months. Please spend time in the archive ... what you might

consider is your level of focus when you are reading, how much are you

processing and really absorbing??

 

Or, you might consider paying someone to work with you ... then your level

of attention will likely increase dramatically.

 

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:15 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re:Animals Foods + Grains and arthritis ... why

Pritikin failed

 

 

I found the link interesting. The only question I have is: What makes this

diet any better than say, Alissa Cohen's, or any of the other " raw diet "

proponents?

 

Just curious because I can't afford to purchase both of their books/dvd's. I

was saving up for Alissa's.

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

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Elchanan,

 

Perhaps I just would like my question answered. Could that be a possibility?

 

If I have to go to the archive for my answers then there is no need to post,

since I'm sure all questions have been asked.

 

I have mentioned before, I don't read from the group site. I read each email

in my mail box. I don't see the archive.

 

 

going to my room.

 

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one.

 

 

 

 

Elchanan <Elchanan

rawfood

Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:28:41 PM

RE: [Raw Food] Re:Animals Foods + Grains and arthritis ... why Pritikin

failed

 

 

Jeannie,

 

This question has been answered at least a hundred times within the past

couple of months. Please spend time in the archive ... what you might

consider is your level of focus when you are reading, how much are you

processing and really absorbing??

 

Or, you might consider paying someone to work with you ... then your level

of attention will likely increase dramatically.

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:15 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Re:Animals Foods + Grains and arthritis ... why

Pritikin failed

 

 

I found the link interesting. The only question I have is: What makes this

diet any better than say, Alissa Cohen's, or any of the other " raw diet "

proponents?

 

Just curious because I can't afford to purchase both of their books/dvd's. I

was saving up for Alissa's.

 

Jeannie

 

 

 

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Jeannie,

here

catch

this it's a

mango

but *you* have to cut it up

rawfood

rawfood/links/

rawfood/database/

 

there is also info all over-not just this site

Elchanan did just answer this to Belinda too...

and POut Pout fruit is very bitter and upsetting to the digestion

Em---

 

 

In rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> Elchanan,

>

> Perhaps I just would like my question answered. Could that be a

possibility?

>

> If I have to go to the archive for my answers then there is no need

to post, since I'm sure all questions have been asked.

>

> I have mentioned before, I don't read from the group site. I read

each email in my mail box. I don't see the archive.

>

>

> going to my room.

>

>

> Jeannie

>

>

>

> your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to

no one.

>

>

>

>

> Elchanan <Elchanan

> rawfood

> Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:28:41 PM

> RE: [Raw Food] Re:Animals Foods + Grains and arthritis ...

why Pritikin failed

>

>

> Jeannie,

>

> This question has been answered at least a hundred times within the past

> couple of months. Please spend time in the archive ... what you might

> consider is your level of focus when you are reading, how much are you

> processing and really absorbing??

>

>

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rawfood , jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote:

>

> I found the link interesting. The only question I have is: What

makes this diet any better than say, Alissa Cohen's, or any of the

other " raw diet " proponents?

>

> Just curious because I can't afford to purchase both of their

books/dvd's. I was saving up for Alissa's.

>

>

> Jeannie

Jeannie,

" Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint "

Mark twain

:-)

Em

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