Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 My FIL has some medical conditions (diabetes, kidney problems, obesity, etc.) and he was open to us sharing some about our raw lifestyle in the past couple of months. He didn't cut out all his SAD foods, but he's been incorporating more fresh fruit and salads. He works away from home throughout the week, and has been taking bananas, oranges, and grapes on the road with him. He cut back from having a hamburger daily, to a couple times a month. It's been a large improvement. Yesterday he went to the doctor and his doctor told him his Potassium level is too high and to stop eating the bananas. The doctor told him that his heart could stop at any time with his potasium level high. Now my in-laws have come to us for some answers. Does anyone have some ACCURATE information about potassium? Could it be the potassium combined with something else in his lifestyle is a risk? I just don't see how eating a couple bananas a day is harmful to him. I'd even appreciate advice about where I can find out more on my own? Thanks in abvance ~Sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 I agree, I don't think it is the bananas, but something else causing it. Seems like to me that I remember soft drinks raises the potassium levels some how. Does he drink a lot of cokes or other carbonated beverages? Belinda > My FIL has some medical conditions (diabetes, kidney problems, > obesity, etc.) and he was open to us sharing some about our raw > lifestyle in the past couple of months. He didn't cut out all his SAD > foods, but he's been incorporating more fresh fruit and salads. He > works away from home throughout the week, and has been taking bananas, > oranges, and grapes on the road with him. He cut back from having a > hamburger daily, to a couple times a month. It's been a large > improvement. Yesterday he went to the doctor and his doctor told him > his Potassium level is too high and to stop eating the bananas. The > doctor told him that his heart could stop at any time with his > potasium level high. Now my in-laws have come to us for some > answers. Does anyone have some ACCURATE information about potassium? > Could it be the potassium combined with something else in his > lifestyle is a risk? I just don't see how eating a couple bananas a > day is harmful to him. I'd even appreciate advice about where I can > find out more on my own? > > Thanks in abvance > ~Sarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 On Friday 13 July 2007 11:48, Sarah wrote: > My FIL has some medical conditions (diabetes, kidney problems, > obesity, etc.) and he was open to us sharing some about our raw > lifestyle in the past couple of months. He didn't cut out all his SAD > foods, but he's been incorporating more fresh fruit and salads. He > works away from home throughout the week, and has been taking bananas, > oranges, and grapes on the road with him. He cut back from having a > hamburger daily, to a couple times a month. It's been a large > improvement. Yesterday he went to the doctor and his doctor told him > his Potassium level is too high and to stop eating the bananas. The > doctor told him that his heart could stop at any time with his > potasium level high. Now my in-laws have come to us for some > answers. Does anyone have some ACCURATE information about potassium? > Could it be the potassium combined with something else in his > lifestyle is a risk? I just don't see how eating a couple bananas a > day is harmful to him. I'd even appreciate advice about where I can > find out more on my own? > > Thanks in abvance > ~Sarah Hi Sarah, You say your FIL has kidneys problems. Having too high a potassium level IS a kidney problem. Doctors call it " hyperkalaemia " , try googling for it. With the other problems you mention, it is not surprising. His kidneys have probably had enough! He has diabetes and he still eats SAD? He is his own problem! He would do well to avoid ALL processed food and the added salt, the purified and toxic kind, sodium chloride. Were I faced with these circumstances, I would probably have a water fast (I'd go and read up on how best to perform that first) and I'd add a few drops of Sea Water (which can be made using Celtic Ocean Sea Salt) solution to help maintain electrolyte levels. As there is a kidney malfunction, I would combine this with UT, but I do that anyway. He may not be open to UT. this article may be helpful http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=30 " " Salt " is sodium chloride; Sodium is an essential nutrient, the body cannot manufacture sodium, yet is it is required for life itself. Chloride is also vital for optimum health, it preserves the acid-base balance in the body, aids potassium absorption, supplies the essence of digestive stomach acid, and enhances the ability of the blood to carry carbon dioxide from respiring tissues to the lungs. " note the " aids potassium absorption " . neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 p.s. On Friday 13 July 2007 11:48, Sarah wrote: > My FIL has some medical conditions (diabetes, this article may help too, it is titled " Diet and nutritional supplements to Help Overcome Diabetes " http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=270 neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Yep, I looked this up too. High potassim levels can be due to kidney disfunction or even kidney failure. Belinda > On Friday 13 July 2007 11:48, Sarah wrote: > > My FIL has some medical conditions (diabetes, kidney problems, > > obesity, etc.) and he was open to us sharing some about our raw > > lifestyle in the past couple of months. He didn't cut out all his SAD > > foods, but he's been incorporating more fresh fruit and salads. He > > works away from home throughout the week, and has been taking bananas, > > oranges, and grapes on the road with him. He cut back from having a > > hamburger daily, to a couple times a month. It's been a large > > improvement. Yesterday he went to the doctor and his doctor told him > > his Potassium level is too high and to stop eating the bananas. The > > doctor told him that his heart could stop at any time with his > > potasium level high. Now my in-laws have come to us for some > > answers. Does anyone have some ACCURATE information about potassium? > > Could it be the potassium combined with something else in his > > lifestyle is a risk? I just don't see how eating a couple bananas a > > day is harmful to him. I'd even appreciate advice about where I can > > find out more on my own? > > > > Thanks in abvance > > ~Sarah > > Hi Sarah, > > You say your FIL has kidneys problems. Having too high a potassium level IS a > kidney problem. Doctors call it " hyperkalaemia " , try googling for it. With > the other problems you mention, it is not surprising. His kidneys have > probably had enough! He has diabetes and he still eats SAD? He is his own > problem! He would do well to avoid ALL processed food and the added salt, the > purified and toxic kind, sodium chloride. > > Were I faced with these circumstances, I would probably have a water fast (I'd > go and read up on how best to perform that first) and I'd add a few drops of > Sea Water (which can be made using Celtic Ocean Sea Salt) solution to help > maintain electrolyte levels. As there is a kidney malfunction, I would > combine this with UT, but I do that anyway. He may not be open to UT. > > this article may be helpful > > http://www.regenerativenutrition.com/content.asp?id=30 > > " " Salt " is sodium chloride; Sodium is an essential nutrient, the body cannot > manufacture sodium, yet is it is required for life itself. Chloride is also > vital for optimum health, it preserves the acid-base balance in the body, > aids potassium absorption, supplies the essence of digestive stomach acid, > and enhances the ability of the blood to carry carbon dioxide from respiring > tissues to the lungs. " > > note the " aids potassium absorption " . > > neal. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Do you know if he takes a potassium-sparing diuretic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium-sparing_diuretic -Erin http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog rawfood , " Sarah " <mrsfrmhls wrote: > > My FIL has some medical conditions (diabetes, kidney problems, > obesity, etc.) and he was open to us sharing some about our raw > lifestyle in the past couple of months. He didn't cut out all his SAD > foods, but he's been incorporating more fresh fruit and salads. He > works away from home throughout the week, and has been taking bananas, > oranges, and grapes on the road with him. He cut back from having a > hamburger daily, to a couple times a month. It's been a large > improvement. Yesterday he went to the doctor and his doctor told him > his Potassium level is too high and to stop eating the bananas. The > doctor told him that his heart could stop at any time with his > potasium level high. Now my in-laws have come to us for some > answers. Does anyone have some ACCURATE information about potassium? > Could it be the potassium combined with something else in his > lifestyle is a risk? I just don't see how eating a couple bananas a > day is harmful to him. I'd even appreciate advice about where I can > find out more on my own? > > Thanks in abvance > ~Sarah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Neal, I agree with the following statement. " His kidneys have probably had enough! He has diabetes and he still eats SAD? He is his own problem! He would do well to avoid ALL processed food and the added salt, the purified and toxic kind, sodium chloride. " I don't agree that he is in a ideal situation to fast at the moment. He's on so many pills, he'd die. I understand that SAD is what's doing it to him. He's been open to what I've been able to share with him, but my MIL is such a skeptic (and she's the one who buys the groceries and prepares the meals when he's home). He eats out 10 times a week, on the road. His kidneys are overloaded, and his kidney disease is in stage 3 now. He's not healthy. I would love to be able to encourage him to eliminate all processed foods, cooked foods, and animal products. That's what I'm trying to do. I know that is where his body needs to be to create health, before it's too late. ~Sarah Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Answers Food & Drink Q & A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 I have no clue. He has a duffle bag full of meds he carries everywhere with him. It's possible. He has several different doctors as well. One may have put him on something that conflicts with what another doctor is doing. Erin <truepatriot wrote: Do you know if he takes a potassium-sparing diuretic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium-sparing_diuretic -Erin http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog rawfood , " Sarah " <mrsfrmhls wrote: > > My FIL has some medical conditions (diabetes, kidney problems, > obesity, etc.) and he was open to us sharing some about our raw > lifestyle in the past couple of months. He didn't cut out all his SAD > foods, but he's been incorporating more fresh fruit and salads. He > works away from home throughout the week, and has been taking bananas, > oranges, and grapes on the road with him. He cut back from having a > hamburger daily, to a couple times a month. It's been a large > improvement. Yesterday he went to the doctor and his doctor told him > his Potassium level is too high and to stop eating the bananas. The > doctor told him that his heart could stop at any time with his > potasium level high. Now my in-laws have come to us for some > answers. Does anyone have some ACCURATE information about potassium? > Could it be the potassium combined with something else in his > lifestyle is a risk? I just don't see how eating a couple bananas a > day is harmful to him. I'd even appreciate advice about where I can > find out more on my own? > > Thanks in abvance > ~Sarah > Sarah Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Neal, I understand that I can neither save nor fail him. I plan to take Elchanan's advice and get him in touch with someone who can work with him (if he so chooses to start down a path of health). Kidney Disease has 5 stages. It usually gets progressively worse, going to the next stage every 3 years or so. He went from level 1 to 3 in less than a year. Dialysis is next up for him then death. Thanks for the tips. ~Sarah Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 On Friday 13 July 2007 19:24, Sarah wrote: > Neal, > > I agree with the following statement. > > " His kidneys have probably had enough! He has diabetes and he still eats > SAD? He is his own problem! He would do well to avoid ALL processed food > and the added salt, the purified and toxic kind, sodium chloride. " > > I don't agree that he is in a ideal situation to fast at the moment. OK, I thought I'd been clear about it being what *I* would do as a suggestion for you to consider with some reading for you to follow up with. A starting point not an end solution. You seemed lost as to where to start. > He's on so many pills, he'd die. OK, I did state that it is what I would do, but I don't go to doctors and don't take meds. > I understand that SAD is what's doing it to him. > He's been open to what > I've been able to share with him, but my MIL is such a skeptic (and she's > the one who buys the groceries and prepares the meals when he's home). So you may be fighting a losing battle. Hope you're ready to accept that possibility too. > He > eats out 10 times a week, on the road. His kidneys are overloaded, and his > kidney disease is in stage 3 now. He's not healthy. I don't understand the significance of 'stage 3', unless you mean it has reached the worst stage. > I would love to be able to encourage him to eliminate all processed > foods, cooked foods, and animal products. That's what I'm trying to do. I > know that is where his body needs to be to create health, before it's too > late. That may well already be the case. > > ~Sarah Just remember Sarah, you can neither save him or fail him, that's his business. All you can do is your best, the final say is out of everyone's hands. neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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