Addendum RE: Neal's suggestion to fast ... Creating Health As THE Solution to Disease (WAS: Potassium)

July 13, 2007

Hi Sarah, Neal, and all,

While as an abstraction fasting might seem like a great solution here, we

must assume that this man is taking scads of medications. He should NOT fast

until his system is free and clear of these meds. And the only way to

achieve this is to begin the process of creating and restoring his health,

first. THEN a fast might (most likely would) proved very constructive.

Neal, I acknowledge that you read and study a great deal and have

accumulated some considerable body of knowledge. But it seems clear to me,

from your post minutes ago and from other posts as well, that you have no

direct, hands-on experience helping very sick people restore their health. I

realize you intend only the best, but when someone is quite sick, stock

solutions and references to articles and Web sites are no substitute (even

an adverse substitute) for personal, present knowledge, guidance, and

support. I encourage you to embrace this distinction. In this instance,

fasting too quickly and/or with the wrong preparation and guidance

could--and likely WOULD--kill the man, and quickly.

Best to all,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Elchanan

Friday, July 13, 2007 10:57 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Creating Health As THE Solution to " Disease " (WAS:

Potassium)

Hi Sarah,

Since the medical community does not think in terms of cleansing and the

like, they simply look at isolated data points and attempt to diagnose.

We do not have a complete picture here, by any means. We know nothing about

this man other than some tidbits about his diet. In this sense, your

request (demand) for " ACCURATE " information seems rather premature to me.

For what we need is more information about him first, probably potassium a

dim and distant second. That having been said, I can provide some general

concepts and information. Also, I have found that, until an individual

shows up and makes his/her own, personal request for support and guidance,

these discussions tend to be a waste of time, at least to the extent that

helping that person is considered. So I write, in large part, for everyone.

Just being clear ....

Potassium salts are alkaline buffers in the body. That is, the body uses

dietary potassium to neutralize acids created primarily by acid-forming

foods, by normal activity, and by archival cleansing. Insufficient

potassium leaves the body with only one other source when a large amount of

alkaline mineral are needed as buffers, and that source is calcium stored

primarily in the bones.

From the information you provide, this person is presently living in a

manner that absolutely no one, from McDonalds to me, would ever recommend.

A part of his program is dedicated to cleansing and self-restoration, and a

part to self-annihilation. Again, please keep in mind that we know nothing

of his lifestyle RE: activity, fresh air, rest, etc.

You do mention that he has " kidney problems " , and of course this is a rather

uninformative description. So I'm going to assume that this man's

eliminative capacity is overloaded, exhausted, and therefore severely

diminished. The assumption seems reasonable, and there are pages of

diagnoses that would be nothing more than expressions of such a state of

overload-driven exhaustion of the organs. An implication of this assumption

is that particulate (physical particles of trash) is accumulating in his

kidneys and probably throughout his body, even as his body begins to attempt

cleansing itself in response to his somewhat improved diet.

In addition, I'm going to assume respiratory dysfunction, though you've not

mentioned this, because I seriously doubt this man is physically active to

any great degree, and therefore his respiratory capacity must be severely

diminished ... and that is a " best case " scenario. An implication is that

this man's blood gasses are " a mess " (to use a technical term .

At the same time, we all recognize that in the presence of ANY improvement

in diet or lifestyle, the body perceives at least some degree of relative

rest and begins cleansing more deeply than before. However, we must

recognize that in a case such as this, where round-the-clock self-poisoning

continues, " cleansing more deeply than before " may mean nothing more than

" doing a better job keeping up with the current trash " . In other words,

little or no archival cleansing may be occurring.

So ... the doctors have it backwards. The potassium is keeping this man

alive, for the moment. The trash his body is trying use the potassium to

neutralize and eliminate is what's (almost) killing him. And if the

potassium were not present, then his body would be forced to reach for the

calcium ... to take it straight from his bones.

What do I suggest? Have this man hook up with someone who really knows how

to create health, and with the understanding that he will follow the program

he is given 100%. The distance and all the other excuses have to go, or he

will kill himself, and the only question is when.

Which brings me full circle: until this man asks on his own behalf, real

forward progress will be limited at best, and reversals of that progress

almost guaranteed. He must not only take certain " steps " , he must embrace

some rather large paradigm shifts. It is unlikely that this will be

accomplished through intermediaries. So if you REALLY wish to help him,

connect him with someone who will talk to him very straight and put him on

program that is not about potassium, not about his diagnoses in any way, but

rather about restoring his health, from head to toe. For that is the only

solution available to him and to all of us ... if we wish to live long and

prosper.

Best, Elchanan

July 13, 2007

Thanks Elchanan. You are right that he is on scads of medication. When they

come to visit, he has a duffle bag just for his pills. I know that he would see

a benefit by creating and restoring health, getting off the pills, and

eventually fasting. He told my husband that he has been feeling better after

making the few adjustments of incorporating more fresh fruit and such. Now he's

ready to take a step back because of what the doctor said (and because of my

skeptical MIL fussing over him). Do I continue to encourage him to eat the

bananas (despite doctors orders) or encourage him to find other fruit until he

can recreate health within his body? I want to continue to be an encouragement

to him, as long as he is open to making changes to restore health. I would love

to invite him to join this group, but he's not very active in the on-line world.

Thanks again!

~Sarah

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