Menses in the Context of Cleansing: Additional Thoughts: Distinguishing the Causes of Similar Symptoms

[Guest guest]

Because, Belinda, a healthy woman's body fat % is in the low teens. In

contrast, these female athletes' tend to have a body fat % well below 10.

You are focused on the symptom, the bleeding. I am suggesting that you begin

to distinguish different causes that happen to produce, on the surface, a

symptom that SEEMS " the same " . The dynamics involved are altogether

different. I've shared other examples in this group, such as white blood

cell count, where the very healthy and the very sick display certain similar

symptoms, on the surface.

 

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Belinda

Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:14 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Menses in the Context of Cleansing: Additional

Thoughts (WAS: Monthly Hemorrhage...)

 

 

But in the case of these so called, healthy women that have cessation

of bleeding during menstrual cycles (in particularly the 80-10-10ers

or something similar) how do you know that they too are experiancing

the cessation of bleeding during menstrual cycles is due to low body

fat or some other reason that is not healthy.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Cessation of menstrual periods in athletes tends to

stop at or below 18%. I have never heard of it being

healthy- at all- for a woman to have a body fat

percentage below 16. I studied up on a lot of elite

rowers in the world, and the body fat percentages for

the most elite were still very close to 18. I'd like

to see where you've heard a woman can have a body fat

percentage below 10.

 

Men who engage in elite weightlifting will often have

a body fat percentage between 7 and 10.

 

 

--- Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

 

> Because, Belinda, a healthy woman's body fat % is in

> the low teens. In

> contrast, these female athletes' tend to have a body

> fat % well below 10.

> You are focused on the symptom, the bleeding. I am

> suggesting that you begin

> to distinguish different causes that happen to

> produce, on the surface, a

> symptom that SEEMS " the same " . The dynamics involved

> are altogether

> different. I've shared other examples in this group,

> such as white blood

> cell count, where the very healthy and the very sick

> display certain similar

> symptoms, on the surface.

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood

> [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Belinda

> Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:14 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Menses in the Context of

> Cleansing: Additional

> Thoughts (WAS: Monthly Hemorrhage...)

>

>

> But in the case of these so called, healthy women

> that have cessation

> of bleeding during menstrual cycles (in particularly

> the 80-10-10ers

> or something similar) how do you know that they too

> are experiancing

> the cessation of bleeding during menstrual cycles is

> due to low body

> fat or some other reason that is not healthy.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Here is an article I came acroos about body fat percentages.

 

Kerri Myers <twinkles457 wrote:

Cessation of menstrual periods in athletes tends to

stop at or below 18%. I have never heard of it being

healthy- at all- for a woman to have a body fat

percentage below 16. I studied up on a lot of elite

rowers in the world, and the body fat percentages for

the most elite were still very close to 18. I'd like

to see where you've heard a woman can have a body fat

percentage below 10.

 

Men who engage in elite weightlifting will often have

a body fat percentage between 7 and 10.

 

--- Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

 

> Because, Belinda, a healthy woman's body fat % is in

> the low teens. In

> contrast, these female athletes' tend to have a body

> fat % well below 10.

> You are focused on the symptom, the bleeding. I am

> suggesting that you begin

> to distinguish different causes that happen to

> produce, on the surface, a

> symptom that SEEMS " the same " . The dynamics involved

> are altogether

> different. I've shared other examples in this group,

> such as white blood

> cell count, where the very healthy and the very sick

> display certain similar

> symptoms, on the surface.

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood

> [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Belinda

> Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:14 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Menses in the Context of

> Cleansing: Additional

> Thoughts (WAS: Monthly Hemorrhage...)

>

>

> But in the case of these so called, healthy women

> that have cessation

> of bleeding during menstrual cycles (in particularly

> the 80-10-10ers

> or something similar) how do you know that they too

> are experiancing

> the cessation of bleeding during menstrual cycles is

> due to low body

> fat or some other reason that is not healthy.

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

 

Most of the mainstream recommendations are so high as to be absurd. If one

were actually to follow the recommendations of the Surgeon General, the

American Diabetes Assn, etc. one would end up with the health that most

Americans presently experience, give or take. And most of the ranges are so

wide as to be meaningless, anyway.

 

In men 3-5% is ideal, up to about 9-10 % is still reasonably healthy. In

women, 13-15%. Below that, hormonal troubles may begin. Above that, you

burden every part of you.

 

Best,

Elchanan

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Terry Bakhtiari

Friday, July 20, 2007 4:07 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Menses in the Context of Cleansing: Additional

Thoughts: Distinguishing the Causes of Similar Symptoms

 

 

http://ask.. <http://ask./ask/20020327.html>

com/ask/20020327.html

 

Here is an article I came acroos about body fat percentages.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Of course I focus on symptoms. Symptoms is all we have to go on to

determne if our body is having problems or not.

 

It seems to me that the 8-1-1ers seem to believe that as long as they

are sticking to this diet then nothing can possibley be going wrong

in their body. No matter what sign or symptom that they have, it's

ok because they are eating the way they believe they should.

 

For instance, if an 8-1-1er has a cold with no cold symptoms (do you

really have a cold if you don't have symptoms?) they are considered

so healthy that they don't show signs of it.

 

But if a SAD person has a cold with no symptoms, they are to sick to

have symptoms.

 

If an athelete on a healthy variation of a SAD diet looses symptoms

of her period(bleeding), she is not healthy.

 

But if a 8-1-1er looses symptoms of her period she is in optiminal

health. After all she must be. She is eating the perfect diet.

 

If the 8-1-1ers ignore all symptoms or disregard symptoms or don't

have symptoms, they are still healthy?

 

There are tons of diseases out there that have no symptoms, until the

disease is in a very late stage. And there are some diseases that

never have symptoms.(some STD's come to mind)

 

And I am STILL trying to grasp the notion that mentrual bleeding is a

sign of toxicity.

 

The uterus walls thicken with blood and tissue to get ready for a

baby. When that doesn't, happen, the body sheds all of that because

it isn't needed. What is so toxic about that?

Other than maybe the extra blood and tissue would become toxic if it

was not shedded.

 

Belinda

 

 

 

 

> Because, Belinda, a healthy woman's body fat % is in the low teens.

In

> contrast, these female athletes' tend to have a body fat % well

below 10.

> You are focused on the symptom, the bleeding. I am suggesting that

you begin

> to distinguish different causes that happen to produce, on the

surface, a

> symptom that SEEMS " the same " . The dynamics involved are altogether

> different. I've shared other examples in this group, such as white

blood

> cell count, where the very healthy and the very sick display

certain similar

> symptoms, on the surface.

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Belinda

> Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:14 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Menses in the Context of Cleansing:

Additional

> Thoughts (WAS: Monthly Hemorrhage...)

>

>

> But in the case of these so called, healthy women that have

cessation

> of bleeding during menstrual cycles (in particularly the 80-10-

10ers

> or something similar) how do you know that they too are

experiancing

> the cessation of bleeding during menstrual cycles is due to low

body

> fat or some other reason that is not healthy.

>

>

>