Euphemisms That Blind Us (WAS: Edible Mushrooms)

[Guest guest]

Hi Erin and all,

 

You can find lists of edible mushrooms, edible flowers, edible crayons,

edible glue products, and so forth. But what does this use of the word

" edible " mean?

 

It means that you will die or exhibit acute symptoms in response to eating

that item.

 

We also have the term " potable water " . In fact, every major city government

in the world provides (or arranges for private parties to provide) " potable "

water to all the inhabitants thereof. And if you drink the stuff, then I

have some swampland in Florida I'd just LOVE to sell you!!!

 

Terms such as " edible " and " potable " do not mean what we are led to believe

they mean, namely, that the item so labeled is genuinely safe to consume,

from the perspective of both short- and long-term health and vitality. And

such terms mean nothing at all WRT whether such items are biologically

well-designed food for our species.

 

No, these are just euphemisms, just as we " take " drugs instead of eating

them, or we " put a little meat on our bones " instead of becoming overfat,

and so forth. such words are right up there alongside " normal " , " happy cows "

(BIG ad campaign in California), and the like.

 

The important question is this: Are you willing to think clearly enough to

discern what is actually being communicated? Or do you prefer to stand

behind such euphemisms and blind yourself to what is really going on.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Erin

Friday, July 20, 2007 10:00 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Edible Mushrooms

 

 

Anyone happen to know which of the mushrooms are safe to eat raw? I've heard

some are not and have even seen signs in the grocery to not eat shiitake

raw.

 

Thanks,

-Erin

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

I agree with much of your post.

Edible and Potable do not mean necessarily quality or even desireable.

The only thing I don't agree with is:

" Or do you prefer to stand

behind such euphemisms and blind yourself to what is really going on. "

Because your post was about relativity (and was correct, imo) more than

actually saying anything proving mushrooms were an absolute non-food, etc. That

comments indicates that if people consider mushrooms a health food, they are

blind and have no idea what is going on. I'd say that's generally true of SAD

dieters or dairy, etc. But there are no mushrooom councils and mushroom

propaganda is not influencing us everywhere. This is kind of what people mean by

condescenscion and ego, btw. Your post was intelligent, eloquent, said nothing

to address your argument that eating mushrooms was damaging to the body for SURE

(because you will never go as far as to indicate it's not an absolute and that

it's instead your opinion on this gray issue) and then came in for the

condescending kill at the end. Nice prelude, no substance - totally evading what

is simply being questioned of you - and then an extremely heavy-handed,

absolutist conclusion.

 

Overall, I should be thanking you, though: by way of your example, I am

improving my own stand on these issues and tendency towards the extreme by leaps

and bounds. I actually sincerely mean that. Erica

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

As John Stossel would say, " Give me a break! "

 

Leaving aside your personal definitions of these common

English words, I didn't even use the word " edible, " but

to leave it in the subject. I asked which mushrooms are

" safe " to eat raw. So there!

 

LOL,

-Erin

http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Erin and all,

>

> You can find lists of edible mushrooms, edible flowers, edible

crayons,

> edible glue products, and so forth. But what does this use of the

word

> " edible " mean?

>

> It means that you will die or exhibit acute symptoms in response to

eating

> that item.

>

> We also have the term " potable water " . In fact, every major city

government

> in the world provides (or arranges for private parties to

provide) " potable "

> water to all the inhabitants thereof. And if you drink the stuff,

then I

> have some swampland in Florida I'd just LOVE to sell you!!!

>

> Terms such as " edible " and " potable " do not mean what we are led to

believe

> they mean, namely, that the item so labeled is genuinely safe to

consume,

> from the perspective of both short- and long-term health and

vitality. And

> such terms mean nothing at all WRT whether such items are

biologically

> well-designed food for our species.

>

> No, these are just euphemisms, just as we " take " drugs instead of

eating

> them, or we " put a little meat on our bones " instead of becoming

overfat,

> and so forth. such words are right up there

alongside " normal " , " happy cows "

> (BIG ad campaign in California), and the like.

>

> The important question is this: Are you willing to think clearly

enough to

> discern what is actually being communicated? Or do you prefer to

stand

> behind such euphemisms and blind yourself to what is really going

on.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Erin

> Friday, July 20, 2007 10:00 AM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Edible Mushrooms

>

>

> Anyone happen to know which of the mushrooms are safe to eat raw?

I've heard

> some are not and have even seen signs in the grocery to not eat

shiitake

> raw.

>

> Thanks,

> -Erin

[Guest guest]

Hi Erin,

 

There are plenty of books on the subject-another really fun thing to

do is go on amushroom walk

I did that a while back so I'm a bit fuzzy on it right now.

Anyway the audubon society gives those

I don't know if this is close to you-

http://www.trails.com/tcatalog_trail.asp?trailid=XAC013-026

 

I love mushrooms cooked but havn't really found any I like raw.

Well good luck !

HTH

Em

btw I havn't died from an edible flower yet of course I guess when I'm

laid to rest they can put that on my tombstone

:-)

rawfood , " Erin " <truepatriot wrote:

>

> As John Stossel would say, " Give me a break! "

>

> Leaving aside your personal definitions of these common

> English words, I didn't even use the word " edible, " but

> to leave it in the subject. I asked which mushrooms are

> " safe " to eat raw. So there!

>

> LOL,

> -Erin

> http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

>

>

> rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Erin and all,

> >

> > You can find lists of edible mushrooms, edible flowers, edible

> crayons,

> > edible glue products, and so forth. But what does this use of the

> word

> > " edible " mean?

> >

> > It means that you will die or exhibit acute symptoms in response to

> eating

> > that item.

> >

> > We also have the term " potable water " . In fact, every major city

> government

> > in the world provides (or arranges for private parties to

> provide) " potable "

> > water to all the inhabitants thereof. And if you drink the stuff,

> then I

> > have some swampland in Florida I'd just LOVE to sell you!!!

> >

> > Terms such as " edible " and " potable " do not mean what we are led to

> believe

> > they mean, namely, that the item so labeled is genuinely safe to

> consume,

> > from the perspective of both short- and long-term health and

> vitality. And

> > such terms mean nothing at all WRT whether such items are

> biologically

> > well-designed food for our species.

> >

> > No, these are just euphemisms, just as we " take " drugs instead of

> eating

> > them, or we " put a little meat on our bones " instead of becoming

> overfat,

> > and so forth. such words are right up there

> alongside " normal " , " happy cows "

> > (BIG ad campaign in California), and the like.

> >

> > The important question is this: Are you willing to think clearly

> enough to

> > discern what is actually being communicated? Or do you prefer to

> stand

> > behind such euphemisms and blind yourself to what is really going

> on.

> >

> > Best,

> > Elchanan

> > _____

> >

> > rawfood [rawfood ] On

> Behalf Of

> > Erin

> > Friday, July 20, 2007 10:00 AM

> > rawfood

> > [Raw Food] Re: Edible Mushrooms

> >

> >

> > Anyone happen to know which of the mushrooms are safe to eat raw?

> I've heard

> > some are not and have even seen signs in the grocery to not eat

> shiitake

> > raw.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > -Erin

>

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " emusedmary " <emusedmary wrote:

>

> Hi Erin,

>

> There are plenty of books on the subject-another really fun thing to

> do is go on amushroom walk

> I did that a while back so I'm a bit fuzzy on it right now.

> Anyway the audubon society gives those

> I don't know if this is close to you-

> http://www.trails.com/tcatalog_trail.asp?trailid=XAC013-026

>

> I love mushrooms cooked but havn't really found any I like raw.

> Well good luck !

 

You don't like the button or baby bella mushrooms raw? Mmmm...

I eat mushrooms daily, and when it's shiitake or some other more

exotic variety, I do cook them. They form the base for the warm

broth or tomato sauces that I pour over my raw veggies each night.

 

> HTH

> Em

> btw I havn't died from an edible flower yet of course I guess when

I'm

> laid to rest they can put that on my tombstone

> :-)

 

It could read " She thought it was pretty. "

 

-Erin

http://www.dogmafreeraw.com

[Guest guest]

Erin,

no not the buttons

,,,,well maybe the baby bellas they are not too bad

maybe I'll experiment :-)

well spread some seeds of edible flowers if you go to my final resting

place-yes they are pretty!

Em

 

rawfood , " Erin " <truepatriot wrote:

>

> rawfood , " emusedmary " <emusedmary@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Erin,

> >

> > There are plenty of books on the subject-another really fun thing to

> > do is go on amushroom walk

> > I did that a while back so I'm a bit fuzzy on it right now.

> > Anyway the audubon society gives those

> > I don't know if this is close to you-

> > http://www.trails.com/tcatalog_trail.asp?trailid=XAC013-026

> >

> > I love mushrooms cooked but havn't really found any I like raw.

> > Well good luck !

>

> You don't like the button or baby bella mushrooms raw? Mmmm...

> I eat mushrooms daily, and when it's shiitake or some other more

> exotic variety, I do cook them. They form the base for the warm

> broth or tomato sauces that I pour over my raw veggies each night.

>

> > HTH

> > Em

> > btw I havn't died from an edible flower yet of course I guess when

> I'm

> > laid to rest they can put that on my tombstone

> > :-)

>

> It could read " She thought it was pretty. "

>

> -Erin

> http://www.dogmafreeraw.com

>