New to Raw Diet and have some ?'s

July 29, 2007

I am just bginning this Raw Food way of life. I watched 30 Days Raw

yesterday and it was rather convincing to me. I have been an organic food

person for a long time but have never followed a Raw Diet.

I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing and I am hoping that I will have

the self discipline to stick to it. So here are some of my questions.....

Are there any books or websites that you would recommend to a new Raw

Foodist for recipes and ideas?

Would Raw Dairy (milk/cheese) be considered ok on a raw diet? I have been

drinking raw milk for about a year now and am wondering if that would still

be ok?

What is a good % to start out with in going Raw? Like 70% Raw????? What

would the other 30% consist of?

I want to start with a 3 day Juice Fast but I don't have a Juicer yet. Can

anyone recommend how I can do a juice fast without a juicer?

Thanks so much for all your help in this journey.

Roberta

July 30, 2007

I started with the Garden Diet 4 years ago to transition me into eating

raw. I have not touched milk in all this time. I find no need for it.

Milk is designed for a baby bovine ... not humans.

Juice fast? Hmm ... didn't do that either. I felt it better to just go

with the water.

Others here have more experience or have done more research. I don't do a

lot of research and just do what feels right to me.

On 7/29/07, Roberta <rradunderhill wrote:

>

> I am just bginning this Raw Food way of life. I watched 30 Days Raw

> yesterday and it was rather convincing to me. I have been an organic food

> person for a long time but have never followed a Raw Diet.

>

> I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing and I am hoping that I will have

> the self discipline to stick to it. So here are some of my questions.....

>

> Are there any books or websites that you would recommend to a new Raw

> Foodist for recipes and ideas?

>

> Would Raw Dairy (milk/cheese) be considered ok on a raw diet? I have been

> drinking raw milk for about a year now and am wondering if that would

> still

> be ok?

>

> What is a good % to start out with in going Raw? Like 70% Raw????? What

> would the other 30% consist of?

>

> I want to start with a 3 day Juice Fast but I don't have a Juicer yet. Can

> anyone recommend how I can do a juice fast without a juicer?

>

> Thanks so much for all your help in this journey.

>

> Roberta

>

--

Donna

" No one is defined by a single act, good or bad. Just as you cannot rest

forever on the laurels of a moment of brilliance or heroism, neither can you

wear forever the thorns and ash of any single moment of anger, weakness or

evil. Those moments are a part of what makes us who we are, but not as big a

part as those mundane, everyday choices and events that are the bulk of our

lives. "

July 30, 2007

Dear Roberta,

There are many good sites to visit. I have many of them listed on

http://www.justeatraw.com. On this site you can learn hoe to

gradually ease into raw foods, with the goal being 100% raw vegan.

It is safe if done correctly, and a variety of foods are consumed

daily, especially greens in the form of smoothies. Recipes for

smoothies are on the website as well. My life completely changed for

the better back when I did the same thing. You can read about some

of the amazing changes that I experienced. Raw foods changed every

aspect of my life and it will never be the sam again. It did the

same for others also. Look at the before and after pictures on this

website. Iwill talk with you again.

Sincerely,

Philip

http://www.justeatraw.com

rawfood , " Roberta " <rradunderhill wrote:

>

> I am just bginning this Raw Food way of life. I watched 30 Days Raw

> yesterday and it was rather convincing to me. I have been an

organic food

> person for a long time but have never followed a Raw Diet.

>

> I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing and I am hoping that I

will have

> the self discipline to stick to it. So here are some of my

questions.....

>

> Are there any books or websites that you would recommend to a new

Raw

> Foodist for recipes and ideas?

>

> Would Raw Dairy (milk/cheese) be considered ok on a raw diet? I

have been

> drinking raw milk for about a year now and am wondering if that

would still

> be ok?

>

> What is a good % to start out with in going Raw? Like 70%

Raw????? What

> would the other 30% consist of?

>

> I want to start with a 3 day Juice Fast but I don't have a Juicer

yet. Can

> anyone recommend how I can do a juice fast without a juicer?

>

> Thanks so much for all your help in this journey.

>

> Roberta

>

July 30, 2007

I also have just started and I am greatly enjoying the following two books which

I checked out from my library. I have also been reading the posts on this board

and several others, but honestly the books help the most right now- the lists

seem to be a lot of discussion of the various methods (which just confuses me

right now) and other very interesting tidbits, but the books give some solid,

basic beginner info. I also checked out Carol Alt's book which I don't like at

all, and The

Complete Book of Raw Foods, which I am hoping to dive into soon. These are the 2

I LOVE -

eat smart, eat raw by Kate Wood

Raw Food Real World by M Kenney & S Melngailis

Right now, I shoot for 4 small " meals " a day- 2 raw, and 1 that is mix of raw

and pretty much whatever we have left in the cupboards or that I can order at a

restaurant that seems to be the best of the worst and 1 juice (usually kale,

collard, carrot, broccoli & apple or a fruit

smoothie, I just had a delicious one for breakfast- I juiced an orange

and blended it with ice, 1/3 of a cantaloupe and 1/2 a mango and it was

divine!) I have just started re-stocking my kitchen with the raw staples, like

nutritional yeast, nori, raw nuts, seeds, agave nectar, etc. so I can

try out some of the tempting recipes in these books.

I tried assigning myself a percentage to stick to, but it made it harder for me

to figure out and seemed to stress the whole process, plus it felt like too

abrupt of a change.

Pre-pregnancy I also drank raw milk, which I enjoyed, but now I am very excited

to be enjoying nut milks. I guess I figure, why take the chance with milk? Also

I bet the cows don't really enjoying being forced to lactate for so long. (I can

especially relate since I will be again nursing with this child!)

My biggest issue is that I can't shut up about all the things I am learning and

people are " worried about my pregnancy " - how ironic is that, I am eating better

than I ever have, I have only gained 1 pound (after losing 15 in the first 12

weeks due to nausea) and people are worried? With my first I'd gained 10 pounds

at this point, had high blood pressure, edema, and ate lots of pure crap- but no

one worried!

Happy Monday!

Tiffany Bellah

Grace's mom / SMILE Founder/ Barefoot Books Storyteller/ Jerky Direct Storeowner

Do you SMILE? (Support Moms In Local Enterprise)

Roberta <rradunderhill

rawfood

Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:50:02 AM

[Raw Food] New to Raw Diet and have some ?'s

I am just bginning this Raw Food way of life. I watched 30 Days Raw

yesterday and it was rather convincing to me. I have been an organic food

person for a long time but have never followed a Raw Diet.

I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing and I am hoping that I will have

the self discipline to stick to it. So here are some of my questions... ..

Are there any books or websites that you would recommend to a new Raw

Foodist for recipes and ideas?

Would Raw Dairy (milk/cheese) be considered ok on a raw diet? I have been

drinking raw milk for about a year now and am wondering if that would still

be ok?

What is a good % to start out with in going Raw? Like 70% Raw????? What

would the other 30% consist of?

I want to start with a 3 day Juice Fast but I don't have a Juicer yet. Can

anyone recommend how I can do a juice fast without a juicer?

Thanks so much for all your help in this journey.

Roberta

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July 31, 2007

Welcome Tiffany!

Will you continue to share about your raw pregnancy?

We are not entirely sure when we will be starting our

family, but I definitely want to do it the right way

when it is time! You just don't find many pregnant

women who deviate from standard diets....and...yeah.

Just wanted to say HELLO!

~kerri

--- Tiffany Bellah <tiffanybellah wrote:

> I also have just started and I am greatly enjoying

> the following two books which I checked out from my

> library. I have also been reading the posts on this

> board and several others, but honestly the books

> help the most right now- the lists seem to be a lot

> of discussion of the various methods (which just

> confuses me right now) and other very interesting

> tidbits, but the books give some solid, basic

> beginner info. I also checked out Carol Alt's book

> which I don't like at all, and The

> Complete Book of Raw Foods, which I am hoping to

> dive into soon. These are the 2 I LOVE -

>

> eat smart, eat raw by Kate Wood

>

> Raw Food Real World by M Kenney & S Melngailis

>

> Right now, I shoot for 4 small " meals " a day- 2 raw,

> and 1 that is mix of raw and pretty much whatever we

> have left in the cupboards or that I can order at a

> restaurant that seems to be the best of the worst

> and 1 juice (usually kale, collard, carrot, broccoli

> & apple or a fruit

> smoothie, I just had a delicious one for breakfast-

> I juiced an orange

> and blended it with ice, 1/3 of a cantaloupe and 1/2

> a mango and it was

> divine!) I have just started re-stocking my kitchen

> with the raw staples, like

> nutritional yeast, nori, raw nuts, seeds, agave

> nectar, etc. so I can

> try out some of the tempting recipes in these books.

>

> I tried assigning myself a percentage to stick to,

> but it made it harder for me to figure out and

> seemed to stress the whole process, plus it felt

> like too abrupt of a change.

>

> Pre-pregnancy I also drank raw milk, which I

> enjoyed, but now I am very excited to be enjoying

> nut milks. I guess I figure, why take the chance

> with milk? Also I bet the cows don't really enjoying

> being forced to lactate for so long. (I can

> especially relate since I will be again nursing with

> this child!)

>

> My biggest issue is that I can't shut up about all

> the things I am learning and people are " worried

> about my pregnancy " - how ironic is that, I am eating

> better than I ever have, I have only gained 1 pound

> (after losing 15 in the first 12 weeks due to

> nausea) and people are worried? With my first I'd

> gained 10 pounds at this point, had high blood

> pressure, edema, and ate lots of pure crap- but no

> one worried!

>

> Happy Monday!

>

> Tiffany Bellah

> Grace's mom / SMILE Founder/ Barefoot Books

> Storyteller/ Jerky Direct Storeowner

>

> Do you SMILE? (Support Moms In Local Enterprise)

>

> Roberta <rradunderhill

> rawfood

> Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:50:02 AM

> [Raw Food] New to Raw Diet and have some

> ?'s

>

I am just bginning this Raw Food way of life. I

> watched 30 Days Raw

>

> yesterday and it was rather convincing to me. I have

> been an organic food

>

> person for a long time but have never followed a Raw

> Diet.

>

> I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing and I am

> hoping that I will have

>

> the self discipline to stick to it. So here are some

> of my questions... ..

>

> Are there any books or websites that you would

> recommend to a new Raw

>

> Foodist for recipes and ideas?

>

> Would Raw Dairy (milk/cheese) be considered ok on a

> raw diet? I have been

>

> drinking raw milk for about a year now and am

> wondering if that would still

>

> be ok?

>

> What is a good % to start out with in going Raw?

> Like 70% Raw????? What

>

> would the other 30% consist of?

>

> I want to start with a 3 day Juice Fast but I don't

> have a Juicer yet. Can

>

> anyone recommend how I can do a juice fast without a

> juicer?

>

> Thanks so much for all your help in this journey.

>

> Roberta

>

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July 31, 2007

Welcome!

There are many approaches to raw that work, but I would urge you to reconsider

the use of raw milk in your diet for optimum health. Just about every book and

then every institute for sure that is centered around living foods practices a

vegan diet for optimal health. You can find out how to juice without a juicer

easily enough: use a nut mylk/seed mylk bag, like a " cheese-cloth " !

Check out this forum for delightful recipes, too:

http://www.rawfreedomcommunity.info/forum/forum.php

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Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search.

July 31, 2007

Hi Roberta,

Welcome to the group!

I'd suggest cutting all dairy out of your diet for better results.

Here's a good place to start reading about the dangers of milk, all milk.

www.notmilk.com

May I suggest eating all raw fruits (sweet-based, organic or better)in

the morning and for lunch while you learn more about what raw has to

offer? If you're ready, willing and able to eat all raw all day, even

better. I recommend skipping the juice diet and eating whole fruits

and leafy greens. Juice is processed food.

There are many camps in the raw food world, as you'll soon learn.

You'll find plenty of conflicting information, just as one does in the

SAD world. However, there are undeniable principles that lay a

foundation for certainty in the process. You've begun a journey that

you hold the reigns to, and it will undoubtedly open your eyes to a

whole new world that awaits you.

Happy reading!

My best,

Janet

rawfood , " Roberta " <rradunderhill wrote:

I am just bginning this Raw Food way of life. I watched 30 Days Raw

yesterday and it was rather convincing to me. I have been an organic

food person for a long time but have never followed a Raw Diet.

I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing and I am hoping that I will

have the self discipline to stick to it. So here are some of my

questions.....

Are there any books or websites that you would recommend to a new Raw

Foodist for recipes and ideas?

Would Raw Dairy (milk/cheese) be considered ok on a raw diet? I have

been drinking raw milk for about a year now and am wondering if that

would still be ok?

What is a good % to start out with in going Raw? Like 70% Raw?????

What would the other 30% consist of?

I want to start with a 3 day Juice Fast but I don't have a Juicer yet.

Can anyone recommend how I can do a juice fast without a juicer?

Thanks so much for all your help in this journey.

Roberta

July 31, 2007

Hi Roberta,

There are MANY versions of a raw vegan diet. Many are attempts to

recreate a Standard diet with raw foods.

To me that seems to defeat the purpose of making choices to be as

healthy as possible.

Why continuously put yourself in the mindset and taste-set of the

foods you're trying to leave behind?

So then, what to eat?

You may want to read The China Study by T. Colin Campbell as well as

80-10-10 by Doug Graham.

They will give you a good scientific basis to think about how you put

your diet together.

Another book that is good for a good basic understanding is Brian

Clement's Living Foods for Optimum Health.

These are the only books and diet/health programs I know of that

aren't primarily based on replicating standard food looks, tastes and

textures.

And... these programs produce a vibrant state of health and give the

body what it needs to heal from acute and chronic conditions.

A choice to create health rather than follow the herd in the grocery

store means doing things differently.

Learning to think differently, taste differently, feel differently.

It's a long journey to extract oneself from the prevailing false

beliefs about diet, food and health.

Those false beliefs that need to be exorcised are ours. We have taken

them in and they have become us. How we think, feel, taste, make

judgements, etc. Be gentle with yourself. The biggest surprise for

many people is that as they go raw, they discover emotions that were

being hidden by their diet - medicated by their diet. These emotions

need to be felt and processed or they will continue to sabotage you.

Again... Be Gentle With Yourself. You are embarking on a journey that

if followed with great heart and curiosity, will bring you gifts on

all levels: mental, emotional, physical, spiritual.

And stay connected with others on the same journey. On and offline.

Be Well!

..wyn

The Raw Retreat

http://www.TheRawRetreat.com

o) 888.EAT.RAW4LIFE

f) 877.236.6999

August 1, 2007

Well, there are all the writings of Herbert Shelton, and of various others,

back in time a bit. Nice post.

Elchanan

_____

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

The Raw Retreat

Monday, July 30, 2007 6:01 PM

rawfood

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