China Study ... Review

August 27, 2007

Hi Dale,

I just shared some comments on the China Study a moment ago, before I saw

this post from you. (I've updated the subject line, BTW. I also took out

your first link, which went to the Amazon sales page, and left in the link

to the review, for people's convenience.

As I just commented in that other post, the China Study is indeed and, far &

away, the largest study on human nutritional and health ever conducted. And

as with any and every study ever conducted or that ever WILL be conducted,

for every question it answers, it raises at least one new question. That, it

seems to me, is in the nature of how we humans explore and discover, whether

within or without.

As I mentioned earlier, the China Study does not distinguish raw from

cooked. So at first glance, from the perspective of those who advocate

eating raw animal foods of any kind, the study demonstrates little. But I

believe these folks are missing something VERY useful: the study concludes,

almost beyond a hint of a doubt, that consumption of cooked animal foods,

even in tiny quantities, immediately adversely affects human health.

Similarly, from the perspective of raw vegans, the study also does not

distinguish between cooked and raw. So the study does little directly either

to support or undermine RF beliefs, claims, etc. Indirectly, the study does

seem to affirm that a low-fat, low-protein diet works best ... something at

least approaching the 80/10/10 guidelines suggested by many of the leading

health practitioners today, and specifically named such by Dr. Doug Graham,

a well-known RF, teacher, practitioner, now author (The 80/10/10 Diet, among

others), athlete, and coach to various world-class athletes.

Finally, from my own perspective personally, the China Study does not

undertake to formulate a new model of health, to address afresh the

question, " What is Health? " Instead, the research protocols applied in the

China Study all arise directly from within the mainstream medical model of

health ... the absence of diagnoses. While we all love no diagnoses, there

is more to health that that, by far!!!

I have the sense that question is for me, and perhaps others. You're welcome

to listen to our free Path of Health audio program, " What is Health? " , a

small beginning in this regard, available at

http://snipurl.com/what_is_health

Best,

Elchanan

PS I publish most of my posts in the PathOfHealth group.

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Dale Bolton

Sunday, August 26, 2007 8:32 PM

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RE: [Raw Food] Raw-attack-tics

Elchanan - I think the review done at <http://www.zenpawn.

<http://www.zenpawn.com/amazon/?item=1932100660 & s>

com/amazon/?item=1932100660 & s> & s - was very good but my understand was that

there were many different levels to the study - I believe that Dr. Campbell

said at one time they had 650,000 people on the project gathering data on

where different types of diseases were. - that data was used to create maps

that could link food to diseases. The enormity seemed much bigger than any

study done during that time. Anyway not being a clinical researcher myself.

I was wondering if there are weakness in the report. Nothing is 100% in this

life

Has anyone head any intelligent comments

Dale

August 28, 2007

Ekchanan - good feedback - I have seen Dr. Doug Graham book but could not

figure out what the The 80/10/10 Diet - could you pass that on.

Dale

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Elchanan

Monday, August 27, 2007 10:32 AM

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[Raw Food] China Study ... Review