Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 YOUR " SACRED " LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR MIND by Brother Sage © 2006 People think that because they maintain a certain lifestyle or diet, like Live Plant Foods that they are some how protected from dis-eases, negative emotions and self-destructive tendencies. Truth is THE greatest cause of all death on the planet does not come from the SAD American Diet, or AIDS, Heart Dis-ease, Cancer, Car " Accidents " , Wars, Virus, etc. THE Greatest cause of Death on the Planet (greater than all " known causes " combined) is THE BELIEF THAT DEATH IS INEVITABLE. When we still have the Unconscious Death Urge and Desire to Die or Leave The Planet and all our loved ones to get rid of all the misery we create in our minds and souls, then not only WILL YOU DIE, but your Sacred Live Plant Foods will not save you. Yes you can eat " all the right foods. " You can fast and do purification or detox programs. You can Pray, Say Decrees, Write Affirmations, Chant and Meditate endelessly. You can attend Spiritual Centers, Ashrams, Dojo's, Temples, Synagogues Holy Lands. You can get healing from the great Healers, Guru's, Shaman, Kahunas and Medicine Men/Women. Until you free your mind of the Unconscious Death Urge and all your loyalty to Deathist Mentality, Deathist Thinking and Deathist Activities, your days ARE numbered. Only the continual practice of absorbing yourself with LIFE AFFIRMING IDEAS, LIFE SUPPORTING FRIENDS, POSITIVE AFFIRMATIONS, AND RAISING THE QUALITY OF YOUR THOUGHTS WHILE ABSOLUTELY COMMITING TO BEING ALIVE, CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE. Yes Many Live Plant Foods People and Spiritual People get Sick, Age and Die. However a Live Plant Foods Person who is Physically Immortal, Studies Immortality Philosophy, Psychology and Practices and Teachings( Immortal Masters like Leonard Orr, Sondra Ray and Brother Sage) , and surrounds themselves with A Community Of Physical Immortalists will have An Everlasting Live of Radiant Aliveness, Youthing and True Abundance in all areas of their life. The missing link in all great so-called Spiritual Paths and The Live Plant Foods Path is the Path of BEING Physicallly Immortal. And Anyone who is miserable now will actively resist your suggestion that they may live to be 100, 200 or possibly 1000 or more years of age. Fortunately with the breathroughs in Anti-Aging & Longevity Nutrition, " experts " are now telling us that a lifespan of 150 to 200 years of age is now possible. And they even stretch the Life Span Envelope in articles like one in a tabloid and on ABC TV recently that presented the idea that we may " someday " be able to live 5000 or more years. And yes in the same body. So dear friends of Life, Free Your Mind ( True Independence Day) of all Illusions and Myths about Aliveness and Immortality, Open up to the possibility that YOU MAY ALREADY BE IMMORTAL UNTIL YOU CAN PROVE OTHERWISE. And not the other way around. REMEMBER: AS LONG AS YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE DOES NOT HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE ON IT, YOU ARE PHYSICALLY IMMORTAL © 2006 brother sage If Dr Li, The Goji Berry eater and Herb Master who lived to be 252, could live this long in Best of Health, This could be your childhood years. And you would never have a mid-life crisis because your perpetual Life would not have a half way point. Remember Your thoughts are more powerful than the food you eat. Even Live Foods. PHYSICAL IMMORTALITY is THE only cause you can not Die For! Forever Yours Brother Sage, Living Foods Pioneer Since 1978 www.secrethealthmovie.com <http://www.secrethealthmovie.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 AMEN brother sage! But, I have to say the raw foods helps too! ~ Jackie rawfood [rawfood ]On Behalf Of Sage Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:07 PM rawfood [Raw Food] YOUR " SACRED " LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR MIND YOUR " SACRED " LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR MIND by Brother Sage © 2006 People think that because they maintain a certain lifestyle or diet, like Live Plant Foods that they are some how protected from dis-eases, negative emotions and self-destructive tendencies. Truth is THE greatest cause of all death on the planet does not come from the SAD American Diet, or AIDS, Heart Dis-ease, Cancer, Car " Accidents " , Wars, Virus, etc. THE Greatest cause of Death on the Planet (greater than all " known causes " combined) is THE BELIEF THAT DEATH IS INEVITABLE. When we still have the Unconscious Death Urge and Desire to Die or Leave The Planet and all our loved ones to get rid of all the misery we create in our minds and souls, then not only WILL YOU DIE, but your Sacred Live Plant Foods will not save you. Yes you can eat " all the right foods. " You can fast and do purification or detox programs. You can Pray, Say Decrees, Write Affirmations, Chant and Meditate endelessly. You can attend Spiritual Centers, Ashrams, Dojo's, Temples, Synagogues Holy Lands. You can get healing from the great Healers, Guru's, Shaman, Kahunas and Medicine Men/Women. Until you free your mind of the Unconscious Death Urge and all your loyalty to Deathist Mentality, Deathist Thinking and Deathist Activities, your days ARE numbered. Only the continual practice of absorbing yourself with LIFE AFFIRMING IDEAS, LIFE SUPPORTING FRIENDS, POSITIVE AFFIRMATIONS, AND RAISING THE QUALITY OF YOUR THOUGHTS WHILE ABSOLUTELY COMMITING TO BEING ALIVE, CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE. Yes Many Live Plant Foods People and Spiritual People get Sick, Age and Die. However a Live Plant Foods Person who is Physically Immortal, Studies Immortality Philosophy, Psychology and Practices and Teachings( Immortal Masters like Leonard Orr, Sondra Ray and Brother Sage) , and surrounds themselves with A Community Of Physical Immortalists will have An Everlasting Live of Radiant Aliveness, Youthing and True Abundance in all areas of their life. The missing link in all great so-called Spiritual Paths and The Live Plant Foods Path is the Path of BEING Physicallly Immortal. And Anyone who is miserable now will actively resist your suggestion that they may live to be 100, 200 or possibly 1000 or more years of age. Fortunately with the breathroughs in Anti-Aging & Longevity Nutrition, " experts " are now telling us that a lifespan of 150 to 200 years of age is now possible. And they even stretch the Life Span Envelope in articles like one in a tabloid and on ABC TV recently that presented the idea that we may " someday " be able to live 5000 or more years. And yes in the same body. So dear friends of Life, Free Your Mind ( True Independence Day) of all Illusions and Myths about Aliveness and Immortality, Open up to the possibility that YOU MAY ALREADY BE IMMORTAL UNTIL YOU CAN PROVE OTHERWISE. And not the other way around. REMEMBER: AS LONG AS YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE DOES NOT HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE ON IT, YOU ARE PHYSICALLY IMMORTAL © 2006 brother sage If Dr Li, The Goji Berry eater and Herb Master who lived to be 252, could live this long in Best of Health, This could be your childhood years. And you would never have a mid-life crisis because your perpetual Life would not have a half way point. Remember Your thoughts are more powerful than the food you eat. Even Live Foods. PHYSICAL IMMORTALITY is THE only cause you can not Die For! Forever Yours Brother Sage, Living Foods Pioneer Since 1978 www.secrethealthmovie.com <http://www.secrethealthmovie.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 rawfood , " Sage " <dr_enzyme wrote: > > > YOUR " SACRED " LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR MIND Um, why wouldn't we want to die? What is so bad about death? What are these supposed " immortalists " trying to avoid? What are these " spiritualists " afraid of? I don't mind dying at all. I mind NOT LIVING. Or dying because my government thought it would be profitable to get me sick, etc. I mind that we live in a purposefully suicidal culture. I cannot wait to leave this body and move on, though, and healthily look forward to that wonderful experience. Our soul is immortal whether we believe it or not - I would never want a plant to keep me in this body after it's purpose has been experienced anyways. Why would ANYone who knows what is out there for us, in the afterlife / on the other side? That doesn't mean the plants are any less " sacred " . Death is " sacred " too. As are our minds.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 Everything in Excess and Fanatic believes does not save one from getting ill I would like to respond to Brother Sage's comments. After 27 years of dealing with nutrition, developing healthy recipes and helping people to a healthier lifestyle (also living environment), I agree what Brother Sage wrote. Even if one eats the " perfect " food, the mind set of that person is just as important as the food. In Europe we certainly grew up with more home made natural foods, often from our own gardens. The poppulation, even in these days still seem to be much healthier overall than in America. Now I am asking why? They smoke more, they drink more (in moderation), they eat less, they eat meat and dairy, yet just age with less problems! All my 27 years of experiences are, that somebody does not get ill because of eating meat or fish once a week or any dairy products. It is certainly the over excess eating of one type of food which does not provide proper nutrition. Meat is one of it and was never meant to be eaten every day and three times a day. In Europe many families ate meat on a Sunday as a specialty. During the week was vegetables, cooked and raw, potatoes, rice, lots of fruits and of course cheese, milk, yoghurts - but: UNPASTEURIZED!!!! Families used for frying in a pan COCONUT FAT!!! NOT SOY MARGARINE! Or hyper processed soy and veggie oils! Even though it is supposedly not hydrogenated and non-transfat, it is a men made LABORATORY FOOD no matter how one sees it in the vegan community. I remember very well, when the soy industry suddenly in Germany pushed their products on the market in the 70is and trying to push everything off the shelves that was actually good, like raw butter and raw whipping cream. Even though Asians eat soy like tofu etc., just have you seen Asians who eat soy products three times a day all week long? I don't! But here in America vegans think they have to replace now all their former excess meat habits in everything with soy, even laboratory food that tastes like meat (I never understood that!) Everybody is different, not everybody can eat the same food. Everybody grew up in many different parts of this globe and ate many different kinds of foods. So do Eskimos. Of course, they simply don't have so many veggies and fruits and the body adapt to the evironment. What I want to say is: If we would eat as much natural foods, like lots of greens, vegetables and fruits, mostly raw, here and there some raw dairy products, some cooked fish and meat only ONCE IN A WHILE, and if the population would finally go back and start to prepare many of their foods at home and not buying too much " prefabricated " foods, the whole society would become lot healthier. As Paul Nison says in his lectures: When he goes to McDonalds (to the bathroom) and sees many happy faces, he is always surprised going then in a health food store and see lots of grumpy unhappy faces. How can that be? Is it a mind set? People who go to health food stores shouldn't they be the happiest people in the world? One last experience from the Old World (which unfortunately becomes more and more Americanized as well), my grandma was 84 when she died. A very dear friend of myne became 93, and many others the same. They drank every day their cup of coffee with their piece a pie in the afternoon, they drank every evening a glass of wine with their home made dinner. But all of them ate mostly meat on the weekends as specialties or when there was a special event and they went out into a fine restaurant. And they were happy, even going through all these horrible war times! Hey guys, wake up!!!!!!!!! They didn't have Yoga classes, most of them didn't go to churches (I did not say that they didn't believe in god, ok!), they never had a counseling to get over all these horrible experiences during the war times - AND THEY WERE HAPPY! So what's wrong here? People eat themselves sick with laboratory foods, because nobody takes time to make their own. Organically processed hardly makes any difference! Take the time to make your own freshly home-made food! And then people fall into a fanatic opposite and think they save the world and themselves with eating now only this or only that. Some go through some rougher times in their lives and think they need now counseling to fix their brains, or pills or supplements to get over it, or the church is going to help, or finding the higher spirits. Well, it's all good! BUT THERE IS NOTHING REALLY LIFE CHALLENGING OUT THERE ANYMORE if you have seen people dying in front of you because of accidents, idiotic wars and violance! Just be happy for goodness sackes, help others where ever you can!!! Do one good thing a day! It is a wonderful fullfilment! AND GO OUT IN NATURE! Go hicking! Don't stuck in the concrete world! Grow your own food whenever you can, even if it is only in a plant pot on your balcony! Best regards, Ursula www.goodmoodfood.com rawfood , " Sage " <dr_enzyme wrote: > > > YOUR " SACRED " LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR MIND > > by > > Brother Sage © 2006 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 How is it that after this long sermon, the link goes to a website selling supplements?  ..wyn http://www.TheRawRetreat.com o) 888.EAT.RAW4LIFE f) 877.236.6999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 Erica, I think you answered your own first paragraph questions with the rhetorical ones in the later paragraphs. That is to day, if one is not entirely confident in the afterlife, death is often going to be a scary event. And then there's the pain (or processs) aspect of it, even if the nonexistence doesn't bother you. -Erin http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog rawfood , " Erica " <schoolofrawk wrote: > > rawfood , " Sage " <dr_enzyme@> wrote: > > > > > > YOUR " SACRED " LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR MIND > > > Um, why wouldn't we want to die? What is so bad about death? What > are these supposed " immortalists " trying to avoid? What are > these " spiritualists " afraid of? > > I don't mind dying at all. I mind NOT LIVING. Or dying because my > government thought it would be profitable to get me sick, etc. I > mind that we live in a purposefully suicidal culture. > > I cannot wait to leave this body and move on, though, and healthily > look forward to that wonderful experience. > > Our soul is immortal whether we believe it or not - I would never > want a plant to keep me in this body after it's purpose has been > experienced anyways. Why would ANYone who knows what is out there > for us, in the afterlife / on the other side? > > That doesn't mean the plants are any less " sacred " . Death > is " sacred " too. As are our minds.... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 I really enjoyed your writing Ursula. I lived a lot of it. I'm a WWII baby. We ate much like that here when I was young. Moderation is great. Sadly we must choose organic today. Too many pesticides in our food and of course just forget all processed anything. I do think you comment about Paul Nison seeing happy people in McDonalds and grumpy unhappy faces in Health food stores might be a bit off. I think getting ones drug - most McDonalds foods - makes one happy - especially sugar - fat - flour. Health Food stores by me are full of gabby friendly people and a few who are ill and looking for a " fix " from what the doctors botched. Timing - I guess... Recovering alcholic - addict .. name anything - I was addicted to it. Louise rawfood , " urhora " <goodmoodfood wrote: > > Everything in Excess and Fanatic believes does not save one from getting ill > > I would like to respond to Brother Sage's comments. > After 27 years of dealing with nutrition, developing healthy recipes > and helping people to a healthier lifestyle (also living environment), > I agree what Brother Sage wrote. > Even if one eats the " perfect " food, the mind set of that person is just > as important as the food. > In Europe we certainly grew up with more home made natural foods, > often from our own gardens. The poppulation, even in these days still seem to > be much healthier overall than in America. Now I am asking why? > They smoke more, they drink more (in moderation), they eat less, > they eat meat and dairy, yet just age with less problems! > > All my 27 years of experiences are, that somebody does not get > ill because of eating meat or fish once a week or any dairy products. > It is certainly the over excess eating of one type of food which does > not provide proper nutrition. Meat is one of it and was never meant > to be eaten every day and three times a day. In Europe many families > ate meat on a Sunday as a specialty. During the week was vegetables, > cooked and raw, potatoes, rice, lots of fruits and of course cheese, > milk, yoghurts - but: UNPASTEURIZED!!!! > Families used for frying in a pan COCONUT FAT!!! NOT SOY MARGARINE! > Or hyper processed soy and veggie oils! > Even though it is supposedly not hydrogenated and non-transfat, > it is a men made LABORATORY FOOD no matter how one sees it in > the vegan community. > I remember very well, when the soy industry suddenly in Germany > pushed their products on the market in the 70is and trying to push > everything off the shelves that was actually good, like raw butter > and raw whipping cream. > Even though Asians eat soy like tofu etc., just have you seen Asians > who eat soy products three times a day all week long? I don't! > But here in America vegans think they have to replace now all their > former excess meat habits in everything with soy, even laboratory food > that tastes like meat (I never understood that!) > > Everybody is different, not everybody can eat the same food. > Everybody grew up in many different parts of this globe and ate > many different kinds of foods. So do Eskimos. Of course, they > simply don't have so many veggies and fruits and the body adapt > to the evironment. > > What I want to say is: If we would eat as much natural foods, like lots of > greens, vegetables and fruits, mostly raw, here and there some raw > dairy products, some cooked fish and meat only ONCE IN A WHILE, > and if the population would finally go back and start to prepare many > of their foods at home and not buying too much " prefabricated " foods, > the whole society would become lot healthier. > > As Paul Nison says in his lectures: When he goes to McDonalds (to the > bathroom) and sees many happy faces, he is always surprised going then > in a health food store and see lots of grumpy unhappy faces. How can > that be? Is it a mind set? People who go to health food stores shouldn't > they be the happiest people in the world? > > One last experience from the Old World (which unfortunately becomes > more and more Americanized as well), my grandma was 84 when she > died. A very dear friend of myne became 93, and many others the same. > They drank every day their cup of coffee with their piece a pie in the afternoon, > they drank every evening a glass of wine with their home made dinner. > But all of them ate mostly meat on the weekends as specialties or when > there was a special event and they went out into a fine restaurant. > And they were happy, even going through all these horrible war times! > Hey guys, wake up!!!!!!!!! They didn't have Yoga classes, most of them didn't > go to churches (I did not say that they didn't believe in god, ok!), they never > had a counseling to get over all these horrible experiences during the > war times - AND THEY WERE HAPPY! > > So what's wrong here? > People eat themselves sick with laboratory foods, because nobody takes > time to make their own. Organically processed hardly makes any difference! > Take the time to make your own freshly home-made food! > And then people fall into a fanatic opposite and think they save the world > and themselves with eating now only this or only that. > > Some go through some rougher times in their lives and think they need now > counseling to fix their brains, or pills or supplements to get over it, > or the church is going to help, or finding the higher spirits. Well, it's all good! > BUT THERE IS NOTHING REALLY LIFE CHALLENGING OUT THERE ANYMORE > if you have seen people dying in front of you because of accidents, idiotic wars > and violance! > > Just be happy for goodness sackes, help others where ever you can!!! > Do one good thing a day! It is a wonderful fullfilment! > AND GO OUT IN NATURE! Go hicking! Don't stuck in the concrete world! > Grow your own food whenever you can, even if it is only in a plant pot > on your balcony! > > Best regards, > > Ursula > www.goodmoodfood.com > > > > rawfood , " Sage " <dr_enzyme@> wrote: > > > > > > YOUR " SACRED " LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR MIND > > > > by > > > > Brother Sage © 2006 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 On Sunday 16 September 2007 22:53, Erin wrote: > Erica, I think you answered your own first paragraph questions > with the rhetorical ones in the later paragraphs. That is to > day, if one is not entirely confident in the afterlife, death > is often going to be a scary event. What I have found from almost my entire life of searching for these kinds of truth is that it is the ego that fears death and the ego is really just a product of a simple misunderstanding compounded by social conditioning. (for social conditioning read growing up and developing as a human being) Seeing through the falseness of the ego is the only solution and relief. There is no afterlife and when Neal dies that is the end of him, full stop. But the truth of who I am was not born and does not die. > And then there's the pain > (or processs) aspect of it, even if the nonexistence doesn't > bother you. > > -Erin But even pain is misunderstood and misrepresented. We learn to fear pain and in that fear build resistance to openly experiencing 'what is', even when it is pain. I have a body skeleton damaged by arthritis and have constant pain from it and take nothing to treat it, yet there is no one here suffering. Even the pain itself is not necessarily unpleasant especially as I don't go into mental stories about it and when it is really bad it can actually magically transform, as is the case with fear. If it is really really really bad then the body will likely just go unconscious. Trying to run away from either fear or pain is probably the worst thing to do. I kid you not. neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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