Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Hi Kat, That's my impression, as well, give or take 5 years, and I'm also not certain. So I guess it depends on one's definition of " health " , The animals I'm aware of that live very long lives ... humans, elephants, etc. are all designed as vegetarians, in some variant (herbivores, frugivores, whatever). And I'm not aware of the longevity of every animal/species, to be sure! But I DO know that processing flesh consumes FAR more work and resources than processing vegetation, because of the acidity involved. Best, Elchanan _____ traciekatt Friday, September 14, 2007 9:20 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Eskimo I was trying to get a straight answer about that and it appears that they live to be only about 40 years old but I do not know if this is a fact or not.... rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: What's the average lifespan is these Eskimos, Kat? Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of traciekatt Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:15 PM To: rawfood [Raw Food] Eskimo Eskimo are very healhty but eat a mostly animal based diet. Does this contradict some of the information in The China Study? Wondering if anyone has any feedback on this as I am trying to support my new way of eating to my family and friends....I have been trying to do some research online about this but it is taking too much time and I am not getting anywhere. Anyone study this issue and have facts? Thanks, Kat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Hi Kat, Enchalan The Eskimo's are difficult to base a meaningful opinion on. I have heard and read reports which say that the " original " Eskimo's were QUITE healthy and long-lived, but that it quickly came to a stop when Europeans introduced them to cooking and other non-natural foods. You can't look at today's Eskimo to form a meaningful opinion on whether what they eat is healthy, because like anyone else there is so much other stuff mixed in. Their original diet of RAW fish and such hasn't really been properly studied. I would like to also point out that we are NOT designed as herbivores or frugivores. We are omnivores, and the anatomical difference between a cow's digestive tract or a lion's digestive tract and our's makes that obvious - we are in between. An acidic pouch-stomach for digesting animals, but with a long coiled alkaline intestine for digesting plants. This is why doctors and scientists remark on the amazing adaptability of the human form...our mental adaptability sure is a huge thing, but our physical adaptability to lifestyle and diet is equally impressive. I don't think there is anything wrong with eating high quality meat. The problem is that our society eats WAY TOO MUCH meat and the meat is of extremely poor quality. If you eat raw veggies and fruit the vast majority of the time (which is definitely the way to go!), and had a 5-ounce organic (cooked) steak say 2 or 3 times a month or something, the ill-health effects of that meat (IF ANY!) will be well under the background noise contribution of industrial pollutants we expose ourselves willingly to every single day and night, 24/7/365.25. I know the China study showed a correlation of disease to meat eating right down to zero meat-eating, but that was with cooked veggies which are far inferior to raw ones. Cheers Joe rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Hi Kat, > > That's my impression, as well, give or take 5 years, and I'm also not > certain. So I guess it depends on one's definition of " health " , The > animals I'm aware of that live very long lives ... humans, elephants, etc. > are all designed as vegetarians, in some variant (herbivores, frugivores, > whatever). And I'm not aware of the longevity of every animal/species, to be > sure! But I DO know that processing flesh consumes FAR more work and > resources than processing vegetation, because of the acidity involved. > > Best, > Elchanan > _____ > > traciekatt > Friday, September 14, 2007 9:20 AM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Eskimo > > > I was trying to get a straight answer about that and it appears that they > live to be only about 40 years old but I do not know if this is a fact or > not.... > > rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan@> wrote: > > What's the average lifespan is these Eskimos, Kat? Elchanan > > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > traciekatt Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:15 PM To: > rawfood [Raw Food] Eskimo > > > Eskimo are very healhty but eat a mostly animal based diet. Does this > contradict some of the information in The China Study? > > Wondering if anyone has any feedback on this as I am trying to support my > new way of eating to my family and friends....I have been trying to do some > research online about this but it is taking too much time and I am not > getting anywhere. Anyone study this issue and have facts? > > Thanks, Kat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 Osteoporosis is extremely high among eskimos, starting at a very young age. if you eat a high animal diet you are bound ot have high levels of cholesterol. A dream is just a dream. A goal is a dream with a plan and a deadline. rawfood: joepostma: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:10:56 +0000[Raw Food] Re: Eskimo Longevity and Meat Consumption [brief] Hi Kat, EnchalanThe Eskimo's are difficult to base a meaningful opinion on. I haveheard and read reports which say that the " original " Eskimo's wereQUITE healthy and long-lived, but that it quickly came to a stop whenEuropeans introduced them to cooking and other non-natural foods. Youcan't look at today's Eskimo to form a meaningful opinion on whetherwhat they eat is healthy, because like anyone else there is so muchother stuff mixed in. Their original diet of RAW fish and such hasn'treally been properly studied.I would like to also point out that we are NOT designed as herbivoresor frugivores. We are omnivores, and the anatomical differencebetween a cow's digestive tract or a lion's digestive tract and our'smakes that obvious - we are in between. An acidic pouch-stomach fordigesting animals, but with a long coiled alkaline intestine fordigesting plants.This is why doctors and scientists remark on the amazing adaptabilityof the human form...our mental adaptability sure is a huge thing, butour physical adaptability to lifestyle and diet is equally impressive.I don't think there is anything wrong with eating high quality meat. The problem is that our society eats WAY TOO MUCH meat and the meat isof extremely poor quality. If you eat raw veggies and fruit the vastmajority of the time (which is definitely the way to go!), and had a5-ounce organic (cooked) steak say 2 or 3 times a month or something,the ill-health effects of that meat (IF ANY!) will be well under thebackground noise contribution of industrial pollutants we exposeourselves willingly to every single day and night, 24/7/365.25. Iknow the China study showed a correlation of disease to meat eatingright down to zero meat-eating, but that was with cooked veggies whichare far inferior to raw ones.CheersJoe--- In rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:>> Hi Kat, > > That's my impression, as well, give or take 5 years, and I'm also not> certain. So I guess it depends on one's definition of " health " , The> animals I'm aware of that live very long lives ... humans,elephants, etc.> are all designed as vegetarians, in some variant (herbivores,frugivores,> whatever). And I'm not aware of the longevity of everyanimal/species, to be> sure! But I DO know that processing flesh consumes FAR more work and> resources than processing vegetation, because of the acidity involved. > > Best,> Elchanan > _____ > > traciekatt> Friday, September 14, 2007 9:20 AM> To: rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Eskimo> > > I was trying to get a straight answer about that and it appears thatthey> live to be only about 40 years old but I do not know if this is afact or> not.... > > --- In rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan@> wrote: > > What's the average lifespan is these Eskimos, Kat? Elchanan > > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] OnBehalf Of> traciekatt Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:15 PM To:> rawfood [Raw Food] Eskimo > > > Eskimo are very healhty but eat a mostly animal based diet. Does this> contradict some of the information in The China Study? > > Wondering if anyone has any feedback on this as I am trying tosupport my> new way of eating to my family and friends....I have been trying todo some> research online about this but it is taking too much time and I am not> getting anywhere. Anyone study this issue and have facts? > > Thanks, Kat > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> _______________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_wlmailtextlink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 It was on some science/culture channel that I saw an eskimo feast where al family of about 7 were gathered around a seal on the floor, eating it raw. It was really wild to me and they mentioned that this is a very common or traditional eskimo behavior. They made mention of the seal meat and fats being helpful for keeping warm. Something I've noticed after eating raw, cold-water fish. a few thoughts Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2007 Report Share Posted September 15, 2007 On Friday 14 September 2007 21:10, Joe Postma wrote: > I would like to also point out that we are NOT designed as herbivores > or frugivores. We are omnivores, Good points Joe, lets also remember that life isn't necessarily about longevity or eating the healthiest way possible, but about QUALITY OF LIFE. AND lets also remember that while each of us remains here, it does not create a space for some new life to come along to fill the gap of our departure, an essential aspect to all life. Life and Death are two ends of the same spectrum, neither of which can exist in isolation. We have been conditioned to fear death rather than celebrate it. Questioning what we believe is as essential to mental health as eating raw is to physical health. neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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