YOUR SACRED LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR MIND

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ROTFLOL!!!

Elchanan

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The Raw Retreat

Saturday, September 15, 2007 11:59 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re:YOUR " SACRED " LIVE PLANT FOODS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM YOUR

MIND

 

 

How is it that after this long sermon, the link goes to a website selling

supplements?

 



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> Even the pain itself is not necessarily unpleasant especially as I

don't go

> into mental stories about it and when it is really bad it can

actually

> magically transform, as is the case with fear. If it is really

really really

> bad then the body will likely just go unconscious. Trying to run

away from

> either fear or pain is probably the worst thing to do.

>

> I kid you not.

>

 

I believe you are right. Great points, Neal. It occurred to me that

when people die hideously like being burned alive, etc, they

probably leave their bodies earlier than later if you catch my

drift. We see them suffering, but they surely get the hell out of

there asap. Honestly, who says all death is painful? It's usually

painful for those left behind, left to mourn. Some tribes understood

this and celebrated when people die. I love that, because honestly,

it makes more sense to me. I don't think death is suffering, life

pretty much is. Death is wonderful. Lots of dead people have

confirmed this through channels, mediums, or people who have had

Near Death Experiences confirm this, etc. I had a paranormal

experience and left my body and travelled etc. It was wild. So, I

feel I can say this pretty certainly. I wasn't even ill or in

physical pain (just emotional) and honestly, it sucked being back in

my body. You want back out again right away! :-)

[Guest guest]

On Monday 17 September 2007 15:32, Erica wrote:

> I believe you are right. Great points, Neal. It occurred to me that

> when people die hideously like being burned alive, etc, they

> probably leave their bodies earlier than later if you catch my

> drift. We see them suffering, but they surely get the hell out of

> there asap. Honestly, who says all death is painful? It's usually

> painful for those left behind, left to mourn. Some tribes understood

> this and celebrated when people die. I love that, because honestly,

> it makes more sense to me. I don't think death is suffering, life

> pretty much is. Death is wonderful. Lots of dead people have

> confirmed this through channels, mediums, or people who have had

> Near Death Experiences confirm this, etc. I had a paranormal

> experience and left my body and travelled etc. It was wild. So, I

> feel I can say this pretty certainly. I wasn't even ill or in

> physical pain (just emotional) and honestly, it sucked being back in

> my body. You want back out again right away! :-)

 

Actually you've just reminded me of a program I watched on tv ages ago about a

plane accident, IIRC there was a fire inside the plane. Anyway, there was a

huge rush of flame that went right through the plane and one survivor was

talking about it and she said that she wasn't scared but totally calm and at

peace, she was being burned alive yet didn't actually feel pain. Nowadays I

would refer to that as an 'awakening' experience. And I think it is tragic

that people are'nt taught such things that when faced with such apparent

horror that they will be ok and just relax into it.

 

Yeh, and peak experiences are great fun are'nt they, as long as we let them go

when they're done, if we don't they act like an anchor and hold us in the

past, yeuck.

 

neal.

 

p.s. and I'm really looking forward to my death whenever that may be.

 

and a much longer p.s. You've started me off now!

Regarding death and whether it is painful or not. I have often wondered about

this when one life form captures another and eats alive, be it insect,

spider, cat, dog. I've watched lots of wildlife programs in the past and

always been spellbound by the tooth and claw of nature. Not taking pleasure

in something being killed, but the beautiful purity of these creatures being

exactly what they are. I honestly cannot imagine a more selfless act that to

relinquish one's own life in order to give it to another. I've faced my own

death and in just relaxing into the initial rush of fear which probably would

look to someone else watching awful, nothing could be further from the truth.

It was the most astonishingly awe filling experience, wonderful truly

wonderful.

[Guest guest]

On Monday 17 September 2007 15:32, Erica wrote:

> I had a paranormal

> experience and left my body and travelled etc. It was

wild. So, I

> feel I can say this pretty certainly. I wasn't even ill or

in

> physical pain (just emotional) and honestly, it sucked

being back in

> my body. You want back out again right away! :-)

 

I should have put at the end of facing my own death that it

was the most alive or present I'd ever felt.

 

neal.

[Guest guest]

Out of body experiences are the norm for many. Staying in the body

and being part of our existence on earth is something some of us who

have had abusive childhoods have to learn. We run - one way or

another from our lives. Being here is the where we learn. Present

time. NOW is where we live.

 

Removing the pain and clearing out the mental and emotional blocks it

causes can help us to be freer each day of life.

 

Louise

 

rawfood , " Erica " <schoolofrawk wrote:

>

> > Even the pain itself is not necessarily unpleasant especially as

I

> don't go

> > into mental stories about it and when it is really bad it can

> actually

> > magically transform, as is the case with fear. If it is really

> really really

> > bad then the body will likely just go unconscious. Trying to run

> away from

> > either fear or pain is probably the worst thing to do.

> >

> > I kid you not.

> >

>

> I believe you are right. Great points, Neal. It occurred to me that

> when people die hideously like being burned alive, etc, they

> probably leave their bodies earlier than later if you catch my

> drift. We see them suffering, but they surely get the hell out of

> there asap. Honestly, who says all death is painful? It's usually

> painful for those left behind, left to mourn. Some tribes

understood

> this and celebrated when people die. I love that, because honestly,

> it makes more sense to me. I don't think death is suffering, life

> pretty much is. Death is wonderful. Lots of dead people have

> confirmed this through channels, mediums, or people who have had

> Near Death Experiences confirm this, etc. I had a paranormal

> experience and left my body and travelled etc. It was wild. So, I

> feel I can say this pretty certainly. I wasn't even ill or in

> physical pain (just emotional) and honestly, it sucked being back

in

> my body. You want back out again right away! :-)

>

[Guest guest]

On this note, I must share with all of you the movie I saw last night.

It was GUT WRENCHING funny! I kid you not! See the trailer of

" Death at a Funeral " and join in the laughter!

 

http://www.deathatafuneral-themovie.com/

 

Janet

 

rawfood , " Erica " <schoolofrawk wrote:

I believe you are right. Great points, Neal. It occurred to me that

when people die hideously like being burned alive, etc, they probably

leave their bodies earlier than later if you catch my drift. We see

them suffering, but they surely get the hell out of there asap.

Honestly, who says all death is painful? It's usually painful for

those left behind, left to mourn. Some tribes understood this and

celebrated when people die. I love that, because honestly, it makes

more sense to me. I don't think death is suffering, life pretty much

is. Death is wonderful. Lots of dead people have confirmed this

through channels, mediums, or people who have had Near Death

Experiences confirm this, etc. I had a paranormal experience and left

my body and travelled etc. It was wild. So, I feel I can say this

pretty certainly. I wasn't even ill or in physical pain (just

emotional) and honestly, it sucked being back in my body. You want

back out again right away! :-)