Permaculture Concepts: No Such Thing As Pests

[Guest guest]

Erica, you sound like a candidate for permaculture! There are no " pests " ,

only a surplus of a given creature. With that perspective in place, we might

then ask, what does Nature do with a surplus of this creature? "

 

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Erica

Monday, September 17, 2007 2:11 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Vores (WAS: Eskimo Longevity and Meat Consumption

[brief])

 

 

 

> I have to know - does this include mosquitoes?

>

> Caron

>

 

While seemingly a pest, I would be that if all mosquitos were

eradicated, it would offset something huge. Ditto for spiders, etc. I

loathe snakes, but without them, surely some other rodent would

procreate too much and become a problem. There is a balance in place,

as annoying or grotesque as some creatures may seem/be. Most people

hate bees, but without them, we are screwed, etc.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I totally agree. Calling some bug a pest is very hypocritical when

you look at all the awful things WE are doing to the planet,

consciously and willingly.

Thinking of humans as pests on the planet, your (Enchalan) last

statement bodes a sobering conclusion for humanity.

 

Joe

 

 

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Erica, you sound like a candidate for permaculture! There are no

" pests " ,

> only a surplus of a given creature. With that perspective in place,

we might

> then ask, what does Nature do with a surplus of this creature? "

>

> Elchanan

[Guest guest]

Elchanon wrote:

> There are no " pests " ,

> only a surplus of a given creature. With that

> perspective in place, we might

> then ask, what does Nature do with a surplus of this

> creature? "

>

> Elchanan

 

make it food for something else?

 

that'd be fun. LOL

 

neal.

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, but I can't help it...a DUCK that eats slugs and snails?

 

That's some messed up duck! That's just not within any ducks design

Enchalan...you need to check your design, it has flaws hehe

 

Joe

 

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Yes, in a manner of speaking. Here's an example:

>

> Suppose we have a surplus of slugs and/or snails. One alternative is

to kill

> them. Another is to buy a duck. The duck eats the slugs and snails

.... this

> is within its design. The duck fertilizes the land, also part of

Nature's

> design. The duck then needs a small pond. The pond attracts a frog.

The frog

> eats insects ... such as mosquitoes!!!

>

> The point is, we begin to think in terms of ecosystems in which we

live and

> eat, rather than in terms of food production alone.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

>

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> neal

> Monday, September 17, 2007 6:27 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: Permaculture Concepts: No Such Thing As

" Pests "

>

>

> Elchanon wrote:

> > There are no " pests " ,

> > only a surplus of a given creature. With that

> > perspective in place, we might

> > then ask, what does Nature do with a surplus of this

> > creature? "

> >

> > Elchanan

>

> make it food for something else?

>

> that'd be fun. LOL

>

> neal.

>

>

>