Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Joe, I'm really sorry ... all matter emits electromagnetic fields. Electromagnetism is one of the four identified forces that operate in the known universe. And EM fields exist independent of whether something is animate or inanimate, dead or alive. The only question is as to the nature of the field. A Kirlian image can be induced specifically by running an electric current through or near an object ... any object. It's just not nearly the big deal as a few RF and other teachers would have us believe. And as you wrote earlier (and correctly), there is little research to point in any interpretive direction, WRT Kirlian images surrounding living things. The imprinting involved in Kirlian photography occurs on the photographic medium, not on the object emitting the field ... that construction, below, is incorrect. Not even quite sure what the point of the thread is at this point ... just trying to offer some more correct information. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Joe Postma Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:14 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Enzyme myth Right...I don't think we're in disagreement here. The important difference is between something being " off " or " on " , i.e., dead or alive. Metal objects can definitely create or have imprinted on them electromagnetic fields. Flesh of plants or animals only create an EM field when it is alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Yah I can't say I am an expert on Kirlian photography. But what I think I am right in saying is that the DIFFERENCE in the Kirlian photograph between a plant before and after cooking is due to the EM activity level being either more (alive) or less (dead). I agree that all normal matter has an EM field. But, doesn't an alive piece of flesh have a stronger EM field than a dead piece? In any case, I agree too that the connection to raw food here is tenuous, at least for now. Certainly people have had fun coming up with mysterious life-force-energy ideas. Anyway, I'm still waiting to learn more about the enzyme myth. The book I got on it didn't have very much scientific information, other than saying there are enzymes in plants. That's great! But, how are these used, if at all? And still the more basic question: why IS raw better than cooked? Simply saying that raw is alive is not an answer. What is the active difference? Enzymes, I think, provide the answer for SOME people...but this apparently may not be right. So, looking forward to hearing about it Thanks for the info! Joe rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote: > > Joe, I'm really sorry ... all matter emits electromagnetic fields. > Electromagnetism is one of the four identified forces that operate in the > known universe. And EM fields exist independent of whether something is > animate or inanimate, dead or alive. The only question is as to the nature > of the field. > > A Kirlian image can be induced specifically by running an electric current > through or near an object ... any object. It's just not nearly the big deal > as a few RF and other teachers would have us believe. And as you wrote > earlier (and correctly), there is little research to point in any > interpretive direction, WRT Kirlian images surrounding living things. The > imprinting involved in Kirlian photography occurs on the photographic > medium, not on the object emitting the field ... that construction, below, > is incorrect. > > Not even quite sure what the point of the thread is at this point .... just > trying to offer some more correct information. > > Best, > Elchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Thanks, Joe. A transformer on a pole puts out a much larger field, imagable in many ways (Kirlian and otherwise) than does any food of which I am aware. From my perspective, my primary point is simply that there are MANY reasons to eat RF, we need not rely heavily upon any one reason, and certainly one where we end up using terms such as " life force " to describe a class of proteins. BTW, one friend who is following this and writes to me privately reminds me that the version of Howell's book everyone has is an abridged version, much of the original work and thinking have been cut out. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Joe Postma Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:01 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Notes on EM fields Yah I can't say I am an expert on Kirlian photography. But what I think I am right in saying is that the DIFFERENCE in the Kirlian photograph between a plant before and after cooking is due to the EM activity level being either more (alive) or less (dead). I agree that all normal matter has an EM field. But, doesn't an alive piece of flesh have a stronger EM field than a dead piece? In any case, I agree too that the connection to raw food here is tenuous, at least for now. Certainly people have had fun coming up with mysterious life-force-energy ideas. Anyway, I'm still waiting to learn more about the enzyme myth. The book I got on it didn't have very much scientific information, other than saying there are enzymes in plants. That's great! But, how are these used, if at all? And still the more basic question: why IS raw better than cooked? Simply saying that raw is alive is not an answer. What is the active difference? Enzymes, I think, provide the answer for SOME people...but this apparently may not be right. So, looking forward to hearing about it Thanks for the info! Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 So, enzymes are still good for us. Raw food has more in it, correct? Raw food is alive and isn't cooked still dead? I don't see what the big deal is, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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