Herbs in the Bible (Was : Raw Food and Cancer )

October 8, 2007

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In rawfood , " Erica " wrote:

Even the bible says " let herbs be your medicine " .

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In rawfood , " Elchanan " wrote:

Only if you are using the KJV or some other mistranslation.

Greens, not herbs ...

Elchanan

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Hello Elchanan,

I would suggest that this is not a mistranslation, but

rather that the word has changed its meaning. I beleive that in King

James' time, the word herb was used to mean green leafy plants in

general. (Similarly the word meat used to mean any kind of food).

By the way (Erica), where does the Bible say " let herbs (or whatever)

be your medicine " ? (I can't find it in my weedy little concordance).

Regards

Roger Rowan

October 8, 2007

> By the way (Erica), where does the Bible say " let herbs (or

whatever)

> be your medicine " ?

Yikes! I referenced it in a text I put together, but it will take me

some digging, I'm afraid. Either way, I have seen the bible used to

justify everything and anything - I was just pointing out that it was

referenced as a medicine. At any rate, I do feel it is important to

reference herbs since they have proven to be SO fundamental in

reversing illness. Objectively, it is simply untrue that they don't

aid significantly in healing, regardless of what philosophies some

choose to adhere to. I have seen enough people attempt to conquer

cancer and other diseases naturally to know that you need all the help

you can get, and to be as aggressive as you can. Most fail not because

they are doing the wrong thing, but because they are not doing ENOUGH

of the right thing. Dr. Christopher helped heal thousands of cancer

and other diseases, using herbs. So has Dr. Schulze. So have many

others. How can that be discounted?? Erica

October 9, 2007

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Erica

>> By the way (Erica), where does the Bible say " let herbs (or

whatever)

> be your medicine " ?

>Yikes! I referenced it in a text I put together, but it will take me

some digging, I'm afraid.

Courtesy of BibleGateway.com:

Ezekiel 47:12

King James Version (KJV)

12And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side,

shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the

fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his

months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit

thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

Revelation 22:2 (King James Version)

King James Version (KJV)

2In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was

there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her

fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the

nations.

It's refering to the leaves of one specific tree, which apparently will only

be available in heaven, or after the end of the world. You can read other

versions of it on the website, I didn't find one that said " let herbs be

your medicine " , but I only skimmed a few versions to verify the passage.

Caron

October 9, 2007

> >> By the way (Erica), where does the Bible say " let herbs (or

> whatever)

> > be your medicine " ?

Hey, clearly I was confusing this with Hippocrates. I did find what

I was referring to, though:

He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the

service of man: that he may bring forth good out of the earth.

Psalms 104:14

Basically, people can interpret this any way they want, or

absolutely anything in the bible to mean what they want. Plus, it

has been edited so much, I don't trust it as a resource for much of

anything, even if I was a religious person, which I'm not. BUT there

is some interesting stuff in it, for sure!

HOWEVER, my main argument for herbs is that they are natural, god-

given, and they DO work. I know Natural Hygienists may choose not to

use them, but that is not to say they do not work or shouldn't be

used. So many thousands have healed awful diseases with them, it

makes no sense to opt not to use them. ESPECIALLY if you have cancer

or the like. Diet alone, with no modalities, isn't enough. I've seen

many die from just doing basic, simple raw and not enough other

stuff, when facing dis-ease. I would encourage anyone to use herbs.

Erica

October 10, 2007

Hi Erica,

You said: Basically, people can interpret this any way they want, or

absolutely anything in the bible to mean what they want. Plus, it

has been edited so much, I don't trust it as a resource for much of

anything, even if I was a religious person, which I'm not. BUT there

is some interesting stuff in it, for sure!

Just to respond to your post but not to cause a debate what are you

referring to that has been edited out?

The bible is the most scrutinized book in history and has not been

edited in content from the version we have today. The dead sea scrolls

proved this.

The book of Isaiah that was found in the Qumran caves was virtually

identical to what we have today even though it was thousands of years

old--and silenced the critics because until then we had no proof. This

proves the texts weren't changed much if at all. The Catholic bible

has a few extra historical books in it that are not necessarily

" inspired writings " but even with that the rest of the Catholic bible

& Christian bible are accurate since Christ's time.

Kat

October 10, 2007

sure!

>

> Just to respond to your post but not to cause a debate what are you

> referring to that has been edited out?

> The bible is the most scrutinized book in history and has not been

> edited in content from the version we have today.

I honestly don't think this is the place to discuss the bible or why

many have a hard time seeing how anyone can believe it is 100%

accurate, true or unedited. Personally, I find the concept of religion

in general to be contradictory to the idea of an all-loving God. It

just doesn't do any good. Thanks for the invitation, though. :-) Erica

October 11, 2007

Oh horse poo! It's full of contradictions, errors, inaccuracies, was

written from popular writings of the day by men for men (the early

church) to control the masses, but even so, this topic doesn't belong

here.

On Oct 10, 2007, at 6:26 PM, traciekatt wrote:

> The bible is the most scrutinized book in history and has not been

> edited in content from the version we have today. The dead sea scrolls

> proved this.

October 11, 2007

On Wednesday 10 October 2007, traciekatt wrote:

> The Catholic bible

> has a few extra historical books in it that are not

> necessarily " inspired writings " but even with that the

> rest of the Catholic bible & Christian bible are accurate

> since Christ's time.

not everyone would agree with that, see;

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/NewTestament.html

--

the kneeling fool

October 11, 2007

Thank you, Avocadess.

Nora

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The Avocadess

rawfood

Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:04 PM

Re: [Raw Food] Re: Herbs in the Bible (Was : Raw Food and Cancer )

Oh horse poo! It's full of contradictions, errors, inaccuracies, was

written from popular writings of the day by men for men (the early

church) to control the masses, but even so, this topic doesn't belong

here.

On Oct 10, 2007, at 6:26 PM, traciekatt wrote:

> The bible is the most scrutinized book in history and has not been

> edited in content from the version we have today. The dead sea scrolls

> proved this.

October 11, 2007

You're welcome.

The Avocadess

On Oct 11, 2007, at 10:14 AM, Nora Lenz wrote:

> Thank you, Avocadess.

> Nora

>

> -

> The Avocadess

> rawfood

> Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:04 PM

> Re: [Raw Food] Re: Herbs in the Bible (Was : Raw Food and

> Cancer )

>

> Oh horse poo! It's full of contradictions, errors, inaccuracies, was

> written from popular writings of the day by men for men (the early

> church) to control the masses, but even so, this topic doesn't belong

> here.

>

> On Oct 10, 2007, at 6:26 PM, traciekatt wrote:

>

> > The bible is the most scrutinized book in history and has not been

> > edited in content from the version we have today. The dead sea

> scrolls

> > proved this.

>

October 11, 2007

Hi Erica,

I want you let to know that I read and have learned a lot out from

your posts.

I agree with you that this is not the place to discuss the Bible but I

just felt to add my 2 cents to the open discussion (that I did not

start) for what it is worth. I know everyone does not agree and that

is fine.

Just to add, I believe and agree that God did obviously create

certain herbs for healing and medicinal purposes. Certain herbs such

as lemon balm, peppermint and parsley are a miracle and I always have

them around! I love herbs and have used them for many years. They are

amazing and He created them!

By the way I have many friends of all different faiths and thoughts

and respect their beliefs. We all agree to disagree and still have fun

and enjoy the things we have in common. On the other hand I have

friends (not all as a few are going the same way as me) that share my

faith that do not agree with my decision to become a vegan! They don't

" get it " even though they say they love animals. I am just glad I do.

Enough said already and I probably said too much!

Kat

rawfood , " Erica " <schoolofrawk wrote:

>

> sure!

> >

> > Just to respond to your post but not to cause a debate what are you

> > referring to that has been edited out?

> > The bible is the most scrutinized book in history and has not been

> > edited in content from the version we have today.

>

> I honestly don't think this is the place to discuss the bible or why

> many have a hard time seeing how anyone can believe it is 100%

> accurate, true or unedited. Personally, I find the concept of religion

> in general to be contradictory to the idea of an all-loving God. It

> just doesn't do any good. Thanks for the invitation, though. :-) Erica

>

October 11, 2007

> Enough said already and I probably said too much!

>

> Kat

Not at all, I LOVE your post! It's so true, from the amazing herbs that

yes, were provided by our creator, just like our precious greens and

fruit, and that honestly, while I totally will never be for religion or

believe in any one document 100%, some of my very closest friends are

non-denominational (but rather " fundamentalist " ) Christians, and they

are vegan, high raw, and can I just say that it is S0 REFRESHING to be

able to sit and talk about Christ and how great Christ was/is, etc,

with them. God is one of our favorite topics. And yes, I have vegan

friends or raw foodist friends, who may even share my spiritual beliefs

more, but still something is missing. :-) Thank you SO much for

posting. Keep fighting the good fight, LOL. Warmly, Erica

October 11, 2007

On the other hand I have

> friends (not all as a few are going the same way as me) that share my

> faith that do not agree with my decision to become a vegan! They don't

> " get it " even though they say they love animals. I am just glad I do.

Another fun vignette: one of my best girlfriends is a Jehovah's

Witness. I didn't know many growing up and to be perfectly honest, in

my midwestern suburb, we didn't like people going door to door with

their religion, etc., and found it strange. A common prejudice. While I

still don't like that, my friend does nothing of the sort - and many

don't. Anyways, she is awesome and never preachy. She is one of the

raciest, most hilarious chicks I know - a great mother and wife, but

also a total rock and roller. She had 6 " spike heels in her closet. She

lives in the country. I was like, " WHERE on EARTH do you wear THESE?? "

She goes " Church. " Says it all. LOL Erica

October 19, 2007

Hippocrates said " Let food be your medicine and medicine be your food "

(something like that!)

Erica <schoolofrawk wrote: