An Overview Of The Living Foods Diet / What Most Raw Fooders Practice

[Guest guest]

What exactly is your focus?

 

Living Foods Lifestyle / Hippocrates Diet: Dietetic variation of self-

healing originated by Ann Wigmore (1904-1994). It is the centerpiece

of the Hippocrates health program and what is known as the raw foods

diet today. This the program that the majority of raw foodists

employ, a fulfilling and healthy balanced raw vegan diet.

 

 

The Raw Food Diet comprises seven categories of the following living

foods:

 

Raw fruits;

 

Raw vegetables;

 

Fresh juices extracted from fruits, vegetables, and sprouts;

 

Raw Sprouts;

 

Raw Nuts and seeds;

 

Fermented foods such as sauerkraut

 

A small percentage practice other variations, usually Natural

Hygiene/Fruitarian or some kind of raw " Paleo " diet. These are

considered more fringe movements within The Living Foods Lifestyle.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Erica. Are recipes for these items discussed here

or just philosophies?

 

Respectfully,

 

Thea

 

 

rawfood [rawfood ]On Behalf Of

Erica

Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:09 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] An Overview Of The Living Foods Diet / What Most Raw

Fooders Practice

 

 

What exactly is your focus?

 

Living Foods Lifestyle / Hippocrates Diet: Dietetic variation of self-

healing originated by Ann Wigmore (1904-1994). It is the centerpiece

of the Hippocrates health program and what is known as the raw foods

diet today. This the program that the majority of raw foodists

employ, a fulfilling and healthy balanced raw vegan diet.

 

The Raw Food Diet comprises seven categories of the following living

foods:

 

Raw fruits;

 

Raw vegetables;

 

Fresh juices extracted from fruits, vegetables, and sprouts;

 

Raw Sprouts;

 

Raw Nuts and seeds;

 

Fermented foods such as sauerkraut

 

A small percentage practice other variations, usually Natural

Hygiene/Fruitarian or some kind of raw " Paleo " diet. These are

considered more fringe movements within The Living Foods Lifestyle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> Thank you Erica. Are recipes for these items discussed here

> or just philosophies?

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Thea

 

Thea, anything you want. People post recipes all the time! :-)

[Guest guest]

In my struggle to understand, I'm looking

Online for recipes that will enlighten me to

your views... frankly, it is a struggle.

 

Just using the keywords graciously given

by Erica I have pulled up mostly books to

be purchased and no real information.

 

So, being a chef, I looked for recipes to help

me understand. The first site I came up with

is here:

http://www.rawgourmet.com/recipes.html

 

From these recipes I gather that you are okay

with food dehydration, freezing but not heating.

Is that right? Though the use of maple syrup

is befuddling having grown up near a sugar bush

smelling the syrup cooking down for days on end.

 

Even the recipes in your group files seem contradictory

to your lifestyle such as the VEGETABLE ESSENE BREAD

that speaks of toasting it. Isn't that cooking?

 

I see honey in your recipe files too as well as added

minerals and amino acids. Honey comes from little

critter poo, not too much different than an egg fallen

from the lone hen.

 

Did I mention that I'm confused?

 

The other sites that I've found all want to sell

me a trademarked product touting how to lose

20 lbs in 2 weeks.

 

I have clients looking for recipes in your realm and

I'm really just trying to " get the parameters " . :-)

 

Thea

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Thea,

 

There are many types of raw diets but most are vegan. From there,

I'd say the majority of raw-fooders eat raw foods that sort of try to

replicate cooked foods (soaked oats for raw oatmeal, nut/veggie

pates, " spaghetti " made with spiralized raw zucchini and a raw tomato

sauce, dehydrated nut/veggie " burgers, " desserts made from nuts,

dates, cocoa, etc.), along with lots of salads and probably some

fruit. You could look at the types of things the raw restaurants are

serving to get an idea of the gourmet-type of food. This site has

links to many raw restaurants, plus other info:

http://www..org/. Alissa Cohen's book and web site

(www.alissacohen.com) is very popular for this way of eating and she

has a few recipes on her site, as well as a discussion group. There

are also some recipes in the files section of this group.

 

Some of us do a lot of juicing, dehydrating, food processing, etc.,

and some do not.

 

Many raw-fooders also eat more simply--a bunch of fruit or a smoothie

for breakfast, more fruit or a big salad for lunch, maybe a big salad

with a raw soup and something more gourmet made w/nuts for dinner.

The main proponent of the high-fruit, low-fat version is Doug Graham,

with his " 80/10/10 Diet " (book of same name, avail. at

www.foodnsport.com).

 

Basically, there is not one way to do this, and not everyone is

strict 100% about it all. Some will use raw honey, some will not.

Some will use certain nuts even though they are not absolutely,

totally raw, because totally raw nuts are hard to find. Although,

generally, the goal is raw vegan. We're all doing the best we can

with what we have, in our particular situations. The main idea, in

my opinion, is to increase the percentage of healthful foods and

decrease the percentage of unhealthful foods.

 

I guess you have to know what types of raw-fooders your clients are,

or who you want to cater to.

 

Good luck,

 

Laurie

 

rawfood , " * Thea Swafford * "

<thea_swafford wrote:

>

> In my struggle to understand, I'm looking

> Online for recipes that will enlighten me to

> your views... frankly, it is a struggle.

>

> Just using the keywords graciously given

> by Erica I have pulled up mostly books to

> be purchased and no real information.

>

> So, being a chef, I looked for recipes to help

> me understand. The first site I came up with

> is here:

> http://www.rawgourmet.com/recipes.html

>

> From these recipes I gather that you are okay

> with food dehydration, freezing but not heating.

> Is that right? Though the use of maple syrup

> is befuddling having grown up near a sugar bush

> smelling the syrup cooking down for days on end.

>

> Even the recipes in your group files seem contradictory

> to your lifestyle such as the VEGETABLE ESSENE BREAD

> that speaks of toasting it. Isn't that cooking?

>

> I see honey in your recipe files too as well as added

> minerals and amino acids. Honey comes from little

> critter poo, not too much different than an egg fallen

> from the lone hen.

>

> Did I mention that I'm confused?

>

> The other sites that I've found all want to sell

> me a trademarked product touting how to lose

> 20 lbs in 2 weeks.

>

> I have clients looking for recipes in your realm and

> I'm really just trying to " get the parameters " . :-)

>

> Thea

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> > Just using the keywords graciously given

> > by Erica I have pulled up mostly books to

> > be purchased and no real information.

> >

> > So, being a chef, I looked for recipes to help

> > me understand. The first site I came up with

> > is here:

> > http://www.rawgourmet.com/recipes.html

> >

> > From these recipes I gather that you are okay

> > with food dehydration, freezing but not heating.

> > Is that right? Though the use of maple syrup

> > is befuddling having grown up near a sugar bush

> > smelling the syrup cooking down for days on end.

> >

> > Even the recipes in your group files seem contradictory

> > to your lifestyle such as the VEGETABLE ESSENE BREAD

> > that speaks of toasting it. Isn't that cooking?

> >

 

 

Thea,

It depends on you, and what you are comfortable with. There are many

who like to say that those who add some maple syrup to one recipe

once a month are " NOT " raw, etc. Likewise, most cashews are not raw,

most agave nectar, and so forth. Maple syrup is loaded with minerals!

If your goal is health, you won't focus on these minute percentages

and will instead just focus on health. There are as many different

raw food diets as there are raw foodists. I would be leery of

anything too extreme sounding, and it's perfectly okay to enjoy a raw

pizza or raw crackers if you so desire!! So many do, and achieve

health just as fast, if not faster, than some of the raw

minimalist/extremists. It is okay to have some pasta. Most

successful, happy and balanced raw foodists eat fairly simply,

enjoying one " meal " really a day or a few times a week (meal -

spaghetti, some crackers and pate, a raw " burger " , etc) and the rest

of the day is simple -- salads/smoothies. They also do periodic juice

cleanses, fasts, etc, when ready..... There is no rush, there is no

one right way for all, and steer clear from rawvangelists who tell

you otherwise. Is recipes what you are looking for, or information on

the diet? The Raw Freedom Community has the greatest virtual recipe

book, and for free, on it's site. Just google it. :-) Erica

[Guest guest]

Hi Laurie,

 

This probably describes most of us. Through experimentation, we learn

what works best for us. I think support groups and like-minded company

are important to help remain in the raw eating mode. I find that

activities one has to engage in for professional and social reasons like

going to restaurants are the ones that need care.

You are right that the overall idea is to increase healthy foods so that

there is less room for unhealthy foods. I always feel better when the

foundation of my diet is raw fruits, green leaves, and veggies. It takes

me days to recover from going to a restaurant. Most of us cannot avoid

it though.

 

Harsha

 

Laurie Swanson wrote:

> Basically, there is not one way to do this, and not everyone is

> strict 100% about it all. Some will use raw honey, some will not.

> Some will use certain nuts even though they are not absolutely,

> totally raw, because totally raw nuts are hard to find. Although,

> generally, the goal is raw vegan. We're all doing the best we can

> with what we have, in our particular situations. The main idea, in

> my opinion, is to increase the percentage of healthful foods and

> decrease the percentage of unhealthful foods.

>

> I guess you have to know what types of raw-fooders your clients are,

> or who you want to cater to.

>

> Good luck,

>

> Laurie

>

> -

[Guest guest]

It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and leafy

greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana. Why is

that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on wheat

grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day. Green

fringe.

 

Janet

 

rawfood , " Erica " <schoolofrawk wrote:

 

What exactly is your focus?

 

Living Foods Lifestyle / Hippocrates Diet: Dietetic variation of self-

healing originated by Ann Wigmore (1904-1994). It is the centerpiece

of the Hippocrates health program and what is known as the raw foods

diet today. This the program that the majority of raw foodists

employ, a fulfilling and healthy balanced raw vegan diet.

 

 

The Raw Food Diet comprises seven categories of the following living

foods:

 

Raw fruits; Raw vegetables; Fresh juices extracted from fruits,

vegetables, and sprouts; Raw Sprouts; Raw Nuts and seeds; Fermented

foods such as sauerkraut A small percentage practice other variations,

usually Natural Hygiene/Fruitarian or some kind of raw " Paleo " diet.

These are considered more fringe movements within The Living Foods

Lifestyle.

[Guest guest]

Ann Wigmore used bananas....

 

 

 

Janet FitzGerald <waxplanet

rawfood

Friday, October 26, 2007 12:32:31 PM

[Raw Food] Re: An Overview Of The Living Foods Diet / What Most Raw

Fooders Practice

 

It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and leafy

greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana. Why is

that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on wheat

grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day. Green

fringe.

 

Janet

 

rawfood@ .com, " Erica " <schoolofrawk@ ...> wrote:

 

What exactly is your focus?

 

Living Foods Lifestyle / Hippocrates Diet: Dietetic variation of self-

healing originated by Ann Wigmore (1904-1994). It is the centerpiece

of the Hippocrates health program and what is known as the raw foods

diet today. This the program that the majority of raw foodists

employ, a fulfilling and healthy balanced raw vegan diet.

 

The Raw Food Diet comprises seven categories of the following living

foods:

 

Raw fruits; Raw vegetables; Fresh juices extracted from fruits,

vegetables, and sprouts; Raw Sprouts; Raw Nuts and seeds; Fermented

foods such as sauerkraut A small percentage practice other variations,

usually Natural Hygiene/Fruitarian or some kind of raw " Paleo " diet.

These are considered more fringe movements within The Living Foods

Lifestyle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Because not everyone can eat that way. It may not be fringe to you, but it

certainly is to me. Different (raw) strokes for different folks, I guess.

Carla

 

On 10/26/07, Janet FitzGerald <waxplanet wrote:

>

> It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and leafy

> greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

> Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana. Why is

> that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on wheat

> grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day. Green

> fringe.

>

> Janet

>

> ---

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

> > It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and leafy

> > greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

> > Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana. Why is

> > that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on wheat

> > grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day. Green

> > fringe.

> >

> > Janet

 

 

Janet, Natural Hygiene is definitely a smaller fringe raw movement.

Wheatgrass however was a large part of the Hippocrates Diet. And is to

many. Only really Natural Hygienists had a problem with it, so I'm not

surprised you do. ERica

[Guest guest]

I guess because Lasagne is supposed to be so much better for you? Or

we're supposed to prefer Lasagne over a banana? Dunno why raw food

is " extreme " if you want to think about the pain you're in after

eating cooked food, the majority of our species would qualify as

masochists

 

Nicole

 

 

rawfood , " Carla Rose " <rose.carla wrote:

>

> Because not everyone can eat that way. It may not be fringe to you,

but it

> certainly is to me. Different (raw) strokes for different folks, I

guess.

> Carla

>

> On 10/26/07, Janet FitzGerald <waxplanet wrote:

> >

> > It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and

leafy

> > greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

> > Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana. Why is

> > that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on wheat

> > grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day.

Green

> > fringe.

> >

> > Janet

> >

> > ---

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Who's talking about lasagna or cooked food?? I thought this discussion was

80/10/10 verses a more balanced (to me) raw diet.

 

*I* was saying I cannot eat that way: 80/10/10-a high fruit diet as apposed

to a " general " raw diet, but with more fats, green smoothies and so on.

Carla

 

On 10/26/07, sci_lite <sci_lite wrote:

>

> I guess because Lasagne is supposed to be so much better for you? Or

> we're supposed to prefer Lasagne over a banana? Dunno why raw food

> is " extreme " if you want to think about the pain you're in after

> eating cooked food, the majority of our species would qualify as

> masochists

>

> Nicole

>

> rawfood <rawfood%40>, " Carla Rose " <

> rose.carla wrote:

> >

> > Because not everyone can eat that way. It may not be fringe to you,

> but it

> > certainly is to me. Different (raw) strokes for different folks, I

> guess.

> > Carla

> >

> > On 10/26/07, Janet FitzGerald <waxplanet wrote:

> > >

> > > It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and

> leafy

> > > greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

> > > Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana. Why is

> > > that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on wheat

> > > grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day.

> Green

> > > fringe.

> > >

> > > Janet

> > >

> > > ---

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

*Whoa, Nellie*. I was responding to janet's post about raw food

considered " fringe " . I was just lazy in choosing the closest post,

which was your response. I was humorously agreeing that it's funny,

especially when you think about the reactions our bodies have to

cooked foods (Lasagne used to be one of several cheesy faves, but oh

the headaches!). I think now, and still do think, it's funny that

finding these triggers and eliminating them is considered radical.

We want to feel good, but we eat things that make us feel so bad ?

There's a certain " fringe " group that believes the same thing, but

with a different application....

 

So totally not meant as a narc on you or the 8/1/1, Carla Rose.

 

rawfood , " Carla Rose " <rose.carla wrote:

>

> Who's talking about lasagna or cooked food?? I thought this

discussion was

> 80/10/10 verses a more balanced (to me) raw diet.

>

> *I* was saying I cannot eat that way: 80/10/10-a high fruit diet as

apposed

> to a " general " raw diet, but with more fats, green smoothies and so

on.

> Carla

>

> On 10/26/07, sci_lite <sci_lite wrote:

> >

> > I guess because Lasagne is supposed to be so much better for

you? Or

> > we're supposed to prefer Lasagne over a banana? Dunno why raw food

> > is " extreme " if you want to think about the pain you're in after

> > eating cooked food, the majority of our species would qualify as

> > masochists

> >

> > Nicole

> >

> > rawfood <rawfood%

40>, " Carla Rose " <

> > rose.carla@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Because not everyone can eat that way. It may not be fringe to

you,

> > but it

> > > certainly is to me. Different (raw) strokes for different

folks, I

> > guess.

> > > Carla

> > >

> > > On 10/26/07, Janet FitzGerald <waxplanet@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and

> > leafy

> > > > greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

> > > > Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana.

Why is

> > > > that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on

wheat

> > > > grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day.

> > Green

> > > > fringe.

> > > >

> > > > Janet

> > > >

> > > > ---

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

LOL! No wonder I was so confused especially since I never liked cheese in my

entire life--and I stopped eating gluten 2 years ago.

 

Raw lasagna = yes!

Conventional lasagna - NO!

Carla

 

On 10/26/07, sci_lite <sci_lite wrote:

>

> *Whoa, Nellie*. I was responding to janet's post about raw food

> considered " fringe " . I was just lazy in choosing the closest post,

> which was your response. I was humorously agreeing that it's funny,

> especially when you think about the reactions our bodies have to

> cooked foods (Lasagne used to be one of several cheesy faves, but oh

> the headaches!). I think now, and still do think, it's funny that

> finding these triggers and eliminating them is considered radical.

> We want to feel good, but we eat things that make us feel so bad ?

> There's a certain " fringe " group that believes the same thing, but

> with a different application....

>

> So totally not meant as a narc on you or the 8/1/1, Carla Rose.

>

> -

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

The other day a man told me " I could never eat that way. " He only

knows I practice a vegan lifestyle, not that I practice eating raw. I

said, " Do you like bananas? " " Well, sure. " In the meantime, he's

complaining about back problems, aches and pains, and wears a beach

ball over his belt.

 

There are hurdles to getting over addictions and cravings, but it can

be done in such a way that the mind forgets there ever was an

addiction or craving. Most of it is psychological.

 

I'm thankful that I can grab fruit and just eat it. Peel it, eat it.

Done. No dehydrator needed, no juicer needed, no blender needed

(though I use one). Just peel and eat, or just grab and bite.

 

Janet

 

rawfood , " Carla Rose " <rose.carla wrote:

 

 

Because not everyone can eat that way. It may not be fringe to you,

but it certainly is to me. Different (raw) strokes for different

folks, I guess.

Carla On 10/26/07, Janet FitzGerald <waxplanet wrote:

 

It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and leafy

greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana. Why is

that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on wheat

grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day. Green

fringe.

 

Janet