Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 The Hallelujah Acres (hacres.com) folks found following their decades of experience that most Americans who try, struggle significantly with 100% raw. (Now some of you please put down your pitch-forks and torches, I said " most " Americans) Which is why they go with 80% raw, 20% cooked. I know they have a fondness for steamed yams for instance... Tim >>>Carla Rose <rose.carla@ gmail. com> wrote: I tried to eat that way too and my body totally rejected it. At the time, I thought it was the only way to go raw and also caused me to go back to cooked foods I was so sick. Its definitely not the " optimal " diet by a long shot. Carla<<< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I myself try to do an 80/20 because some things I just want (brown & wild rice, cooked beans, homemade soups) yams are good raw though.. My advise to everyone is to do as much raw as possible. Some days may be total raw and some not. But the goal is to strive to eat a healthier diet and rid yourself from processed foods, microwave cooking and pre-packaged meals. vj www.freshfromnature.com Tim Campbell <jtcaell rawfood <rawfood > Friday, October 26, 2007 2:24:25 PM [Raw Food] The downside of 8/1/1...Hallelujah Acres The Hallelujah Acres (hacres.com) folks found following their decades of experience that most Americans who try, struggle significantly with 100% raw. (Now some of you please put down your pitch-forks and torches, I said " most " Americans) Which is why they go with 80% raw, 20% cooked. I know they have a fondness for steamed yams for instance... Tim >>>Carla Rose <rose.carla@ gmail. com> wrote: I tried to eat that way too and my body totally rejected it. At the time, I thought it was the only way to go raw and also caused me to go back to cooked foods I was so sick. Its definitely not the " optimal " diet by a long shot. Carla<<< ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 True enough and well-stated KF...I have speculated the same thing. Just as the deteriorations we experience while on a sludgey, heavy diet accrue, develop and unfold over the decades so do the blessings and benefits of being on a lighter diet reveal themselves over time...Below is one of my favorite quotes from Paul Bragg's " The Miracle of Fasting. " " After I was restored to a good state of health at Dr. August Rollier’s Sanitarium in Leysen, Switzerland, I started my regular fasting program... which I am proud to say I have continued through all these wonderful years since then! I fasted one 24-hour period weekly and four times a year at three-month intervals, I fasted from 7 to 10 days, always on a strict distilled-water fast. After I had been on this program for 5 years, I went on a 10-day fast and a miracle happened to me. I was at my families old home- stead in Virginia, and on about the seventh day of the ten-day fast, I was out in a canoe on the river leisurely enjoying the sun- shine and fresh air, when suddenly, without warning, I doubled up with stomach cramps and I thought I would never be able to stand the pain. With great effort I got ashore and then it hap- pened. I had a terrific bowel evacuation, and at the end of this evacuation, I felt a heavy cool sensation in my rectum and out passed a third of a cup of the quicksilver from the Calomel that I had taken during my childhood. That experience marked a new day in my entire physical structure. From that day on, I knew what superior health meant! My Vital Power had increased so greatly with this program of eating natural, living foods, fasting and using all of the natural forces of Nature, such as fresh air, sunshine, exercise and bathing, that every cell of my body seemed to rejoice with a new Power of Vitality! In my opinion, I believe that over the years I have eliminated the residue of many of the drugs that were given to me for childhood miseries. " Tim the kneeling fool <kneel.pardoe wrote: On Friday 26 October 2007, Tim Campbell wrote: > The Hallelujah Acres (hacres.com) folks found following > their decades of experience that most Americans who try, > struggle significantly with 100% raw. (Now some of you > please put down your pitch-forks and torches, I said > " most " Americans) Which is why they go with 80% raw, 20% > cooked. I know they have a fondness for steamed yams for > instance... > Tim<<< Maybe, as I have found personally, that sometimes one little step at a time is best. Could this rejection be due to an overwhelm? I did not find smoothies to sit too comfortably to begin with but is no longer a problem, over a couple of months the discomfort has disappeared. Perhaps the opposite is true for the 'nasty' things we eat too. That to begin with there is no rejection, but slowly over time the discomfort increases. I have slowly been dropping coffee from my diet. I had the last cup I will drink today as I don't like the internal dis-ease that arises from drinking coffee. In fact it would almost be more true to say that it is eliminating itself, as is the case with other things in my diet that are not particularly healthful. They have progressively created greater discomfort. My body is the source of this 'intelligence', not my thinking. But that is my way, each to his own. -- the kneeling fool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I eat 100% raw (as close to it as I can at) w/o any cooked foods in my diet. I just cant eat a 80/10/10. I dont think an 80/20 diet would work for me at all. 20% cooked? Of what? Carla On 10/26/07, Tim Campbell <jtcaell wrote: > > The Hallelujah Acres (hacres.com) folks found following their decades of > experience that most Americans who try, struggle significantly with 100% > raw. (Now some of you please put down your pitch-forks and torches, I said > " most " Americans) Which is why they go with 80% raw, 20% cooked. I know they > have a fondness for steamed yams for instance... > > Tim > > >>>Carla Rose <rose.carla@ gmail. com> wrote: > > I tried to eat that way too and my body totally rejected it. At the time, > I > thought it was the only way to go raw and also caused me to go back to > cooked foods I was so sick. Its definitely not the " optimal " diet by a > long > shot. > > Carla<<< > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 On Friday 26 October 2007, Tim Campbell wrote: > The Hallelujah Acres (hacres.com) folks found following > their decades of experience that most Americans who try, > struggle significantly with 100% raw. (Now some of you > please put down your pitch-forks and torches, I said > " most " Americans) Which is why they go with 80% raw, 20% > cooked. I know they have a fondness for steamed yams for > instance... > Tim > > >>>Carla Rose <rose.carla@ gmail. com> wrote: > > I tried to eat that way too and my body totally rejected > it. At the time, I thought it was the only way to go raw > and also caused me to go back to cooked foods I was so > sick. Its definitely not the " optimal " diet by a long > shot. > > Carla<<< Maybe, as I have found personally, that sometimes one little step at a time is best. Could this rejection be due to an overwhelm? I did not find smoothies to sit too comfortably to begin with but is no longer a problem, over a couple of months the discomfort has disappeared. Perhaps the opposite is true for the 'nasty' things we eat too. That to begin with there is no rejection, but slowly over time the discomfort increases. I have slowly been dropping coffee from my diet. I had the last cup I will drink today as I don't like the internal dis-ease that arises from drinking coffee. In fact it would almost be more true to say that it is eliminating itself, as is the case with other things in my diet that are not particularly healthful. They have progressively created greater discomfort. My body is the source of this 'intelligence', not my thinking. But that is my way, each to his own. -- the kneeling fool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I wonder if eating a 100% raw after eating a SAD diet had anything to do with your body feeling sick. I went through this realizing that my body was cleaning house. Thankfully, as I endured some vomiting and fever, I knew what was going on. Admittedly, I wasn't yet introduced to the 80/10/10 way of living, but it probably would not have made much difference. Many new raw foodists go through this when switching to a more healthful diet since their body is given relative rest from processed/cooked foods. It is a great opportunity for the body to eject foreign matter, and a lot of it. It is easy to make the wrong correlation, in this respect. Carla, do you think this has anything to do with your experience? Janet rawfood , Tim Campbell <jtcaell wrote: > > The Hallelujah Acres (hacres.com) folks found following their decades of experience that most Americans who try, struggle significantly with 100% raw. (Now some of you please put down your pitch-forks and torches, I said " most " Americans) Which is why they go with 80% raw, 20% cooked. I know they have a fondness for steamed yams for instance... > > Tim > > >>>Carla Rose <rose.carla@ gmail. com> wrote: > > I tried to eat that way too and my body totally rejected it. At the time, I > thought it was the only way to go raw and also caused me to go back to > cooked foods I was so sick. Its definitely not the " optimal " diet by a long > shot. > > Carla<<< > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Janet, I'm not sure, though its something to consider. I stopped eating gluten, soy, dairy, coffee, refined sugar, processed foods, processed grains, fast foods, and general junk gradually starting 5 years ago (started with fast and processed foods) so it wasnt like I went from full blown SAD to raw overnight. I went raw (and VEGAN) starting in April. I had insulin resistance which is why I stopped eating processed foods especially sugar years ago. Going back into eating a lot of fruit has been very hard for me. I dont eat more than 3 servings a day though I can eat more. I just had a very large Fuji apple (because it was easy and simple) which is probably two servings right there. I actually feel woozy and slightly nauseated now-- no matter how good it was. I dont get that reaction from greens, veggies and fats. Carla On 10/26/07, Janet FitzGerald <waxplanet wrote: > > I wonder if eating a 100% raw after eating a SAD diet had anything to > do with your body feeling sick. I went through this realizing that my > body was cleaning house. Thankfully, as I endured some vomiting and > fever, I knew what was going on. Admittedly, I wasn't yet introduced > to the 80/10/10 way of living, but it probably would not have made > much difference. Many new raw foodists go through this when switching > to a more healthful diet since their body is given relative rest from > processed/cooked foods. It is a great opportunity for the body to > eject foreign matter, and a lot of it. It is easy to make the wrong > correlation, in this respect. Carla, do you think this has anything > to do with your experience? > > Janet > > rawfood <rawfood%40>, Tim Campbell > <jtcaell wrote: > > > > The Hallelujah Acres (hacres.com) folks found following their > decades of experience that most Americans who try, struggle > significantly with 100% raw. (Now some of you please put down your > pitch-forks and torches, I said " most " Americans) Which is why they go > with 80% raw, 20% cooked. I know they have a fondness for steamed yams > for instance... > > > > Tim > > > > >>>Carla Rose <rose.carla@ gmail. com> wrote: > > > > I tried to eat that way too and my body totally rejected it. At the > time, I > > thought it was the only way to go raw and also caused me to go back to > > cooked foods I was so sick. Its definitely not the " optimal " diet by > a long > > shot. > > > > Carla<<< > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 > I myself try to do an 80/20 because some things I just want (brown & wild rice, cooked beans, homemade soups) yams are good raw though.. My advise to everyone is to do as much raw as possible. Some days may be total raw and some not. But the goal is to strive to eat a healthier diet and rid yourself from processed foods, microwave cooking and pre-packaged meals. > > vj > www.freshfromnature.com I think the Hallelujah Acres huge search engine on their testimonial/success stories page is proof enough that their diet works, and works well. It's fine if people want to do 80/20, honestly. And definitely much better than say, alissa cohen's super nutty fatty diet - all 100% raw but puhlease! No question that yams and wildrice are healthier than a whole plate of macademia/cashew cacao honey fudge! I would be hard-pressed, overall, to question anything about 80/20 - most agree. Maybe those people want to go 100% sometimes, maybe not. Who cares, they are healthy, organic, vegan and high raw. Who is to say that's an " unhealthy diet " ? LOL Erica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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