Food Combining: Fruits & Greens; Fruits & Nuts (WAS: Appeasing the Sweet Tooth ...)

[Guest guest]

Hi Dee,

 

Fruits with greens, great combination ... as long as you respect the food

combining principles that apply to fruits. Both high in water content, high

in simple sugars (relative to total energy/calories), high in soluble fiber,

etc.

 

Fruits and nuts/seeds, awful combination. Why? Fruits are high in water

content, soluble fiber, and simple sugars and move through the digestive

tube quickly. In contrast, nuts and seeds are very low in water content,

very high in fats and in insoluble fiber, and move through the digestive

tube very slowly. This causes sugars contained in fruits mixed with or stuck

behind the nuts/seeds to ferment.

 

Regarding food combining, you are correct, there are two primary schools of

thought: those who understand the physical and biochemical principles

involved, those who do not.

 

Regarding your last sentence, it depends what you mean by " nice " . For me,

that would drop my energy like a brick So what I consider " nice " is eating

one food at a time, or a very simple combination. This provides my body with

maximum energy and nutrition with minimum energy and other resources

expended to obtain that nutrition. The result: more available for activities

other than eating and digesting!!!

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

Dee Porterfield [booklover.dee]

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:32 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Appeasing the Sweet Tooth (was ..Appreciating...)

 

 

Dee in PAThanks for all the suggestions. I made up the " Ultimate Dressing "

recipe from " Eat Smart Eat Raw " today and had it over a bed of raw sprouts

and romaine leaves with half a sliced avocado. It was quite tasty. I guess

with trying to do the " green lemonade " juicing, I was hoping to increase my

intake of dark green leafy vegetables but I'm thinking now I'd much rather

eat the stuff than drink it. Some of you suggested putting fruit on my

salad. I've read in several books not to eat fruit with greens or nuts with

fruit, etc.. Personally, I love fruit on my salad. And I like to sprinkle

a small handful of sliced almonds on top for crunch and the health benefits.

So there must be several schools of thought on this combining food groups

business. It would be nice to eat a variety of fruits and veggies or fruits

and nuts at one sitting (I say, hopefully).

 

Dee in PA

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

Would you mind sharing what you eat on a typical day? Do you follow

the 80/10/10 principles? i haven't ordered the book yet and still

haven't got membership of PathofHealth. been waiting 48 hours!

I feel like one of the things holding me back right now is confusion

about what to eat. Of course I'm not in alignment with what my body

truly needs right now, or I wouldn't be asking. I want to start as I

mean to continue.

 

Any suggestions for overcoming wheat cravings? Is it just a matter of

eating fruit and greens and dealing with the emotional attachment to

wheat as it arises?

 

Katya.

[Guest guest]

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

 

And your hope goes down the drain! )

I would have to through out 80% of my desserts in our cafe.

They are made with water deluted almonds and fruits, coconut butter,

some with raw chocolate etc.etc. Really " awful " and heavenly!

 

I don't want to say that desserts are super healthy, but once

in a while a treat, who cares?

 

Whenever I eat " perfect " , I have so much energy that I hardly sleep,

and work and work and work. I know other people who had the

same experience. Some people sometime need food that slows them

down. I don't see anything wrong in that.

 

Chef Ursula

www.goodmoodfood.com

 

 

 

..... It would be nice to eat a variety of fruits and veggies or fruits

> and nuts at one sitting (I say, hopefully).

>

> Dee in PA

[Guest guest]

HI Elchanan,

I was wondering about your sentence about fruits and nuts/seeds

being an awful combination. In the 80 10 10 diet book, Doug Graham

recommends many recipes that combine nuts with acid fruits, such as

orange pecan dressing, strawberry almond dressing, and orange tahini

dressing.

Also, on his combining chart, he says that almonds and other

protein foods mix well with acid fruits and just fair with sub acid fruits.

So are you saying that you disagree with this and that

nuts should never be mixed with any fruits at all?

Thanks for clarifying this for me!!!!

Lynne

>

> Hi Dee,

>

> Fruits with greens, great combination ... as long as you respect the food

> combining principles that apply to fruits. Both high in water content,

> high

> in simple sugars (relative to total energy/calories), high in soluble

> fiber,

> etc.

>

> Fruits and nuts/seeds, awful combination. Why? Fruits are high in water

> content, soluble fiber, and simple sugars and move through the digestive

> tube quickly. In contrast, nuts and seeds are very low in water content,

> very high in fats and in insoluble fiber, and move through the digestive

> tube very slowly. This causes sugars contained in fruits mixed with or

> stuck

> behind the nuts/seeds to ferment.

>

> Regarding food combining, you are correct, there are two primary

> schools of

> thought: those who understand the physical and biochemical principles

> involved, those who do not.

>

> Regarding your last sentence, it depends what you mean by " nice " . For me,

> that would drop my energy like a brick So what I consider " nice " is eating

> one food at a time, or a very simple combination. This provides my

> body with

> maximum energy and nutrition with minimum energy and other resources

> expended to obtain that nutrition. The result: more available for

> activities

> other than eating and digesting!!!

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> Dee Porterfield [booklover.dee

> <booklover.dee%40verizon.net>]

> Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:32 AM

> rawfood <rawfood%40>

> Re: [Raw Food] Appeasing the Sweet Tooth (was ..Appreciating...)

>

> Dee in PAThanks for all the suggestions. I made up the " Ultimate Dressing "

> recipe from " Eat Smart Eat Raw " today and had it over a bed of raw sprouts

> and romaine leaves with half a sliced avocado. It was quite tasty. I guess

> with trying to do the " green lemonade " juicing, I was hoping to

> increase my

> intake of dark green leafy vegetables but I'm thinking now I'd much rather

> eat the stuff than drink it. Some of you suggested putting fruit on my

> salad. I've read in several books not to eat fruit with greens or nuts

> with

> fruit, etc.. Personally, I love fruit on my salad. And I like to sprinkle

> a small handful of sliced almonds on top for crunch and the health

> benefits.

> So there must be several schools of thought on this combining food groups

> business. It would be nice to eat a variety of fruits and veggies or

> fruits

> and nuts at one sitting (I say, hopefully).

>

> Dee in PA

>

>

[Guest guest]

rawfood , Lynne Moore <fountayn wrote:

>

> HI Elchanan,

> I was wondering about your sentence about fruits and

nuts/seeds

> being an awful combination. In the 80 10 10 diet book, Doug Graham

> recommends many recipes that combine nuts with acid fruits, such as

> orange pecan dressing, strawberry almond dressing, and orange

tahini

> dressing.

> Also, on his combining chart, he says that almonds and

other

> protein foods mix well with acid fruits and just fair with sub acid

fruits.

> So are you saying that you disagree with this and

that

> nuts should never be mixed with any fruits at all?

> Thanks for clarifying this for me!!!!

> Lynne

 

Interesting. Doug's book is incorrect on that - I noticed that in his

recipes, too. Pecan / Orange = terrible combining... That is a food

combining basic, to say the least. ERica

[Guest guest]

Yes, you can do it with the acid fruits, if you look at the acidity aspect

only. But the nuts and seeds are SO dehydrating and SO clog up any human

digestive tube, I tend to deemphasize them anyway.

 

Also, nuts and seeds contain hard insoluble fiber that can scratch the mucus

membrane that lines the digestive tube, just as it does in the mouth.

 

In the dressings, everything is pulverized in a blender, so the nuts and

seeds enter as much smaller components. But they still suck out water, they

still have sharp edges, and they still are heavy and slow moving through the

digestive system.

 

I often see people never really fully transitioning to a fruit/greens-based

program, continuing to rely upon high-fat foods for a very large portion of

their fuel/caloric intake. So I encourage people toward the water and away

from the dry stuff.

 

Again, yes, you can mix those, from an acidity + fat point of view. In fact,

it's a fine combination to mix acid fruits with, say avocado ... here you

have none of that hard fiber, much less drying and without the abrasion.

 

Make sense?

 

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Lynne Moore

Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:38 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Food Combining: Fruits & Greens; Fruits & Nuts (WAS:

Appeasing the Sweet Tooth ...)

 

 

HI Elchanan,

I was wondering about your sentence about fruits and nuts/seeds

being an awful combination. In the 80 10 10 diet book, Doug Graham

recommends many recipes that combine nuts with acid fruits, such as

orange pecan dressing, strawberry almond dressing, and orange tahini

dressing.

Also, on his combining chart, he says that almonds and other

protein foods mix well with acid fruits and just fair with sub acid fruits.

So are you saying that you disagree with this and that

nuts should never be mixed with any fruits at all?

Thanks for clarifying this for me!!!!

Lynne

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Yes, it does! Thanks for clarifying that for me!! Most of the time, I

do make a dressing from avocado, tomato, and basil; just once in awhile,

I make one using the nuts and acid fruits. Usually, though, I just add

fruit, such as grapes, strawberries, and tomatoes to my salads!

Lynne

 

> Yes, you can do it with the acid fruits, if you look at the acidity aspect

> only. But the nuts and seeds are SO dehydrating and SO clog up any human

> digestive tube, I tend to deemphasize them anyway.

>

> Also, nuts and seeds contain hard insoluble fiber that can scratch the

> mucus

> membrane that lines the digestive tube, just as it does in the mouth.

>

> In the dressings, everything is pulverized in a blender, so the nuts and

> seeds enter as much smaller components. But they still suck out water,

> they

> still have sharp edges, and they still are heavy and slow moving

> through the

> digestive system.

>

> I often see people never really fully transitioning to a

> fruit/greens-based

> program, continuing to rely upon high-fat foods for a very large

> portion of

> their fuel/caloric intake. So I encourage people toward the water and away

> from the dry stuff.

>

> Again, yes, you can mix those, from an acidity + fat point of view. In

> fact,

> it's a fine combination to mix acid fruits with, say avocado ... here you

> have none of that hard fiber, much less drying and without the abrasion.

>

> Make sense?

>

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood <rawfood%40>

> [rawfood <rawfood%40>] On

> Behalf Of

> Lynne Moore

> Thursday, November 01, 2007 3:38 PM

> rawfood <rawfood%40>

> Re: [Raw Food] Food Combining: Fruits & Greens; Fruits & Nuts

> (WAS:

> Appeasing the Sweet Tooth ...)

>

> HI Elchanan,

> I was wondering about your sentence about fruits and nuts/seeds

> being an awful combination. In the 80 10 10 diet book, Doug Graham

> recommends many recipes that combine nuts with acid fruits, such as

> orange pecan dressing, strawberry almond dressing, and orange tahini

> dressing.

> Also, on his combining chart, he says that almonds and other

> protein foods mix well with acid fruits and just fair with sub acid

> fruits.

> So are you saying that you disagree with this and that

> nuts should never be mixed with any fruits at all?

> Thanks for clarifying this for me!!!!

> Lynne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Katya,

 

I found the following post in our archives. Elchanan shared with the group

what he ate one day back in June of this year in Message #31030.

 

<snip>

 

I feel honored that you ask. Here's what I recall eating

yesterday.

 

One small watermelon.

About 15 bananas.

Some strawberries and blackberries.

1/4 lime

A serving bowl of cherries ... ripe to the point where the outsides are

sticky from their own sugar.

A fairly large head of lettuce, with about 5-6 tomatoes and some avocado.

One small handful of pistachios.

 

I don't always eat avocado, but since I'm using yesterday as my example ....

 

I don't ordinarily eat many nuts and seeds, but we found some raw organic

pistachios ... and we bought them!!! They are now eaten, so no nuts for me

today! :) (Though some might might suggest otherwise. :)

 

All items either organic or better (i.e., from a specific farm that I know

and trust). Of course, in California that's fairly easy to accomplish, I

realize this.

 

Does this help a bit?

Elchanan

<snip>

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sarah