Guest guest Posted November 12, 2007 Report Share Posted November 12, 2007 Hi all! My name is Kim and I've transitioned from a hard core SAD (Standard American Diet) method of eating to a 90% raw whole food diet in the past 6 weeks. I've given up all processed food (except for Diet Coke...I'm still working that one out of my forte.) The driving force behind my switch has been a rather sudden realization of just how much I've abused my body in my relatively young 38 years...and a desire to change that trend and let my body heal naturally. Prior to this realization, if I couldn't microwave it or buy it from a restaurant, I didn't eat it. I'm NOT kidding. This is a big change for me. I get surprised everytime I open the fridge and see green food. I have a history of Bipolar Disorder, and have taken anywhere between 8 - 15 (yes, you read that right) medications daily over the last 15 years to supposedly stabilize my mood. Long story short - I'm down to just one medication since May of this year, when a rather bold spiritual experience woke me up to the fact that I have a lot more control over what was happening internally to me than I had ever imagined. My doctors are baffled with my progress, as are all who know me. I starting wheening off the meds before I ever started this diet, but I know that healthier eating will help sustain my newfound stability. Here's where I need your help: I'm impatient!! The detox my body is going through is TOUGH. I am so tired some days I don't want to leave the house. And the instant weight loss that I keep reading about in books just hasn't happened for me... I must admit, I'm greedy. It would be nice to drop 10 quick pounds as a visible reward for the changes I'm making. (Changes that still feel like sacrifices right now given how new all of this is to me.) I think my honeymoon stage with the raw food way is over, and I just would like reassurance from someone that, yes, what I'm going through is normal, especially given my history, and that yes, it will indeed get better. I don't plan on divorcing the diet, but wise words from other raw food compadres could make the marriage a little more enjoyable in the rough spots. Thanks! K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I've gotten fatter since the change in my diet and addition of herbs. I think it's part of the detoxing process. I know that most people lose weight, some lose weight later, and some just don't. The fact that your meds are way down and you're doing so much better in general is GREAT encouragement. Alex Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 What is your diet? You can add some things - you should not be feeling so miserable if it's been since May... Please watch the documentary SWEET MISERY (www.dorway.com) regarding the aspartame. They actually show manic-depression in it, caused by the excitotoxins in diet coke alone.... (I was a big DC-er in my day) ERica " Kimberly A. Rogers " <kimrogers1969 wrote: Hi all! My name is Kim and I've transitioned from a hard core SAD (Standard American Diet) method of eating to a 90% raw whole food diet in the past 6 weeks. I've given up all processed food (except for Diet Coke...I'm still working that one out of my forte.) The driving force behind my switch has been a rather sudden realization of just how much I've abused my body in my relatively young 38 years...and a desire to change that trend and let my body heal naturally. Prior to this realization, if I couldn't microwave it or buy it from a restaurant, I didn't eat it. I'm NOT kidding. This is a big change for me. I get surprised everytime I open the fridge and see green food. I have a history of Bipolar Disorder, and have taken anywhere between 8 - 15 (yes, you read that right) medications daily over the last 15 years to supposedly stabilize my mood. Long story short - I'm down to just one medication since May of this year, when a rather bold spiritual experience woke me up to the fact that I have a lot more control over what was happening internally to me than I had ever imagined. My doctors are baffled with my progress, as are all who know me. I starting wheening off the meds before I ever started this diet, but I know that healthier eating will help sustain my newfound stability. Here's where I need your help: I'm impatient!! The detox my body is going through is TOUGH. I am so tired some days I don't want to leave the house. And the instant weight loss that I keep reading about in books just hasn't happened for me... I must admit, I'm greedy. It would be nice to drop 10 quick pounds as a visible reward for the changes I'm making. (Changes that still feel like sacrifices right now given how new all of this is to me.) I think my honeymoon stage with the raw food way is over, and I just would like reassurance from someone that, yes, what I'm going through is normal, especially given my history, and that yes, it will indeed get better. I don't plan on divorcing the diet, but wise words from other raw food compadres could make the marriage a little more enjoyable in the rough spots. Thanks! K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Kimberly A. Rogers wrote > The detox my body is going through is TOUGH. One has to know how to control the intensity of the cleansing process for successful dietary change. http://ecologos.org/cleansing.htm > I am so tired some days I don't want to leave the house. That is because of toxins flowing through your blood, and affecting the brain, on the way to your toilet bowl. > And the instant weight loss ... http://ecologos.org/obese.htm Laurie -- Scientifically-credible info on human diet: http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html news:alt.food.vegan.science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 On Monday 12 November 2007, Kimberly A. Rogers wrote: > Here's where I need your help: I'm impatient!! No Kimberly, you don't need our help. Your resistance to what is right now will not be effected by asking our help. Nothing outside of yourself can change your impatience. Drop your ideas about self-image and wants and allow nature to take its course. When you have thoughts about being impatient, just say hello and let them go on their way. Let them come and go as clouds come and go. In truth, you can do nothing about either (clouds or thoughts). -- the kneeling fool raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ urine_therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 " Thoughts are like birds in the sky. You can't stop them from flying over your head. But you can stop them from building a nest in your hair " . Quote from somewhere in the past (o;. ~ Claudia rawfood , the kneeling fool <kneel.pardoe wrote: > > On Monday 12 November 2007, Kimberly A. Rogers wrote: > > Here's where I need your help: I'm impatient!! > > No Kimberly, you don't need our help. Your resistance to > what is right now will not be effected by asking our help. > Nothing outside of yourself can change your impatience. > Drop your ideas about self-image and wants and allow nature > to take its course. When you have thoughts about being > impatient, just say hello and let them go on their way. Let > them come and go as clouds come and go. In truth, you can > do nothing about either (clouds or thoughts). > > -- > the kneeling fool > > raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind > http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ > urine_therapy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 the kneeling fool wrote: > In truth, you can do nothing about either (clouds or thoughts). Perhaps, YOU can not, but many can successfully decondition repetitive negative thoughts, emotions, behaviors, or images. Laurie -- Scientifically-credible info on human diet: http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html news:alt.food.vegan.science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 > In truth, you can do nothing about either (clouds or thoughts). Perhaps, YOU can not, but many can successfully decondition repetitive negative thoughts, emotions, behaviors, or images. Laurie I didn't take that as all to be what he meant, really. Interesting that Kneeling Fool is so peaceful and yet.... Erica Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 On Tuesday 13 November 2007, Laurie wrote: > the kneeling fool wrote: > > In truth, you can do nothing about either (clouds or > > thoughts). > > Perhaps, YOU can not, but many can successfully > decondition repetitive negative thoughts, emotions, > behaviors, or images. > > Laurie Hi Laurie, you make a perfectly valid point, and it is not in contradiction with the originally stated self-evident truth of my post. With genuine looking anyone can see this for themselves. I was comparing clouds to thoughts, in the way that they arrive and depart. What I said does not exclude your premise in any way. Contrary to what rancour may tell you, I have in fact quite successfully employed many different emotional discharge techniques which did in fact bring good if temporary relief. My original statement does not classify thoughts to be either positive or negative, just thoughts, simply as they are *prior* to the judgement made that determines good/bad, want/reject, positive/negative. Whatever the kind of thought that appears to us, the problem is not in the appearance of the thought but in what we do with it. The problem as such is in the compulsive grasping of the thought by the tail and spinning it into a mental story about *me*. This too anyone can observe for themselves with honest self enquiry. What you say is true, there is relief in discharging these so called 'negatives' as they come into our lives. Yet in seeing thoughts simply as thoughts prior to any judgement, there is freedom. -- the kneeling fool raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ urine_therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 the kneeling fool wrote: > In truth, you can do nothing about either (clouds or thoughts). > ... and it is not in contradiction with the originally stated > self-evident truth of my post. HINT: NOthing means nothing; not something. Why don't you understand this simple word? > Contrary to what rancour may tell you, ... There is no rancor, stop claiming that you can read minds through the Internet. And, please stop making negative, and unsupportable, statements about what you " see " in my consciousness. Laurie -- Scientifically-credible info on human diet: http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html news:alt.food.vegan.science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 You don't have to read minds to percive the obvious. Your mouth speaks what overflows from your heart. " Hot-tempered people stir up strife, but patient people quiet quarrels. " Proverbs 15;18 ~ Claudia rawfood , Laurie < wrote: > > the kneeling fool wrote: > > > In truth, you can do nothing about either (clouds or thoughts). > > ... and it is not in contradiction with the originally stated > > self-evident truth of my post. > HINT: NOthing means nothing; not something. > Why don't you understand this simple word? > > > Contrary to what rancour may tell you, ... > There is no rancor, stop claiming that you can read minds through the Internet. And, please stop making negative, and unsupportable, statements about what you " see " in my consciousness. > > Laurie > > -- > Scientifically-credible info on human diet: > http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html > news:alt.food.vegan.science > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 > > In truth, you can do nothing about either (clouds or > > thoughts). ... and it is not in contradiction with the > > originally stated self-evident truth of my post. > > HINT: NOthing means nothing; not something. > Why don't you understand this simple word? It comes from many years of conditioning where I get asked " what have you done? " and I reply " nothing " , then I get hit. > > Contrary to what rancour may tell you, ... > > There is no rancor, stop claiming that you can > read minds through the Internet. Oh, but I can. I bought these plans and a big roll of tin foil and followed instructions meticulously. Now you are telling me it doesn't work! > And, please stop making > negative, and unsupportable, statements about what you > " see " in my consciousness. > > Laurie I see only emptiness, everywhere. -- the kneeling fool raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ urine_therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 -Neal, does tinfoil work? I have been using flexible drinking straws without much luck :-) Em -- In rawfood , the kneeling fool <kneel.pardoe wrote: > > > > In truth, you can do nothing about either (clouds or > > > thoughts). ... and it is not in contradiction with the > > > originally stated self-evident truth of my post. > > > > HINT: NOthing means nothing; not something. > > Why don't you understand this simple word? > > It comes from many years of conditioning where I get > asked " what have you done? " and I reply " nothing " , then I > get hit. > > > > Contrary to what rancour may tell you, ... > > > > There is no rancor, stop claiming that you can > > read minds through the Internet. > > Oh, but I can. I bought these plans and a big roll of tin > foil and followed instructions meticulously. Now you are > telling me it doesn't work! > > > And, please stop making > > negative, and unsupportable, statements about what you > > " see " in my consciousness. > > > > Laurie > > I see only emptiness, everywhere. > > -- > the kneeling fool > > raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind > http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ > urine_therapy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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