An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2007

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An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2007

 

Namaste

 

Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays

where Vegans " waffle " between:

 

A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer

through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching

as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused

souls;

B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those

not so casual comments about anti-Veganism;

C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange

a dinner for like-minded folks;

D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by

themselves with their Tofurkeys;

E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we

hurt the feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans;

F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards

for " dessert; "

G) Any other actions you wish to fill-in;

H) Not going to these gatherings and fasting.

 

That's right! I said FASTING.

 

I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has

been a tradition since 1998.

I hope some list members will be joining me on this

day of torture, death, greed, selfishness and

debauchery by doing the same.

 

My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the

MILLIONS of animals that are tortured and abused, then

slaughtered just for this one (1) day alone in the

U.S.

 

I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run

from Wednesday until Sunday.

 

Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful

way to clean out the body as far as health is

concerned.

 

Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul.

 

Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to a

higher being.'

 

It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This

was copied from watching animals when they are ill.

They either eat greens or nothing at all.

 

Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of

protest.

Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point across.

 

My fasting tradition has came about when I could no

longer go to family gatherings for this 'holiday' and

sit around a table infested with dead carcass and

by-products.

Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we

traipsed to our building of worship only to march back

to a home full of death, abuse and chemical

irresponsibility.

 

Previous years had folks pointing out that this is a

time for family and friends getting-together to show

their love and thankfulness.

But, who needs a " Hallmark " holiday for this occasion?

We can get together the other 364 days of the year

without the excuse of a 'holiday.'

 

I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded

folks for a holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon

this holiday as a festive occasion. Why? Because it

also represents false facts throughout American

history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery

and near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name

of 'god.' Recent findings are coming out that there

was no turkey - or even any kind of 'meat' - at the

dinner; only fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains.

 

Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that

after these dinners, the male attendees would gather

together in front of a television set to watch the

bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving the women

(slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and

watch

after the children.

 

You are invited and welcome to join my discussion

list:

SoFlaVegans/

[We are really more like an informational " newspaper "

with at least 50 postings daily!]

 

Starting soon (way before " ThanXgiving " ) there will

appear articles, information and guides about the

history and hypocrisy of ThanXgiving, as well as how

to cope with the upcoming holidays (Chanukah, Kwanzaa,

Xmas, New Year's).

Additionally, you will find ways to fast safely and

wisely.

For those who wish to " celebrate " and not fast, you

will find literally hundreds of recipes and tips, as

well!

 

As we ready ourselves for Fur-Free Friday, I wish

everyone who is willing to " take the plunge " the best

of luck in a successful and quick fast, and may all of

our efforts pay off!

 

= = = = = = = = = =

 

Here are my other discussion lists that also contain

tons of information in each of their categories –

DAILY!!!

Please research the message archives for information

you are seeking and what you have missed:

 

Everything Yoga!

Yoga-With-Nancy/

 

American Sign Language and Deaf Culture

SignSoFla/

 

Alternative Schooling Within The School System

SoFlaSchools/

 

Om Shanti

 

Live Simply So That

Others May Simply Live

Yoga-With-Nancy/

SignSoFla/

SoFlaVegans/

SoFlaSchools/

[Guest guest]

sci_lite wrote:

 

> I don't like that my choices alienate me from my family, ...

Don't blame yourself; if these people can not allow you to simply chose what

you want to eat without comment, resistance, or derision, then are they REALLY

your 'family', or merely some random bunch of people who you lived with for a

while?

 

> I'm also fasting from contact with them as much as possible.

Wise choice.

 

Laurie

 

--

Scientifically-credible info on human diet:

http://ecologos.org/ttdd.html

news:alt.food.vegan.science

[Guest guest]

I like this idea. We don't have a 'family' type Thansgiving holiday and usually

sit around waiting for it to be over. Nothing is open and we usually walk the

dog for hours in the woods but that's only if the weather allows. Native

Americans hang out in Plymouth and have a candle lighting for all the humans, as

well as the whole environment that fell under the influx of all the humans that

are virtually asleep. They don't seem to wake when you shake them.

 

fidyl <fidyl wrote: An Ahimsa ThanXgiving - Fast 2007

 

Namaste

 

Oh, no! Here it comes again! Those dreaded holidays

where Vegans " waffle " between:

 

A) Going to a family get-together and literally suffer

through hours of staring at dead carcasses, watching

as others gulp down – not chewing – these abused

souls;

B) Going to a family get-together and endure all those

not so casual comments about anti-Veganism;

C) Not going to these gatherings and trying to arrange

a dinner for like-minded folks;

D) Not going to these gatherings and staying by

themselves with their Tofurkeys;

E) Not going to these gatherings and wondering if we

hurt the feelings of unconcerned/uncaring humans;

F) Not going to the dinners, but arriving afterwards

for " dessert; "

G) Any other actions you wish to fill-in;

H) Not going to these gatherings and fasting.

 

That's right! I said FASTING.

 

I will be fasting this ThanXgiving again - this has

been a tradition since 1998.

I hope some list members will be joining me on this

day of torture, death, greed, selfishness and

debauchery by doing the same.

 

My fast is in HONOR/REMEMBERENCE/REVERENCE of the

MILLIONS of animals that are tortured and abused, then

slaughtered just for this one (1) day alone in the

U.S.

 

I am not discussing one (1) day fasts. My fasts run

from Wednesday until Sunday.

 

Fasting achieves numerous benefits. It is a wonderful

way to clean out the body as far as health is

concerned.

 

Spiritually, it also cleanses the soul.

 

Originally, fasting was used to 'get closer to a

higher being.'

 

It was also used to rid sick bodies of diseases. This

was copied from watching animals when they are ill.

They either eat greens or nothing at all.

 

Modern times has shown fasting to be a form of

protest.

Gandhi also used fasting to bring his point across.

 

My fasting tradition has came about when I could no

longer go to family gatherings for this 'holiday' and

sit around a table infested with dead carcass and

by-products.

Even the 'religious' holidays were laughable as we

traipsed to our building of worship only to march back

to a home full of death, abuse and chemical

irresponsibility.

 

Previous years had folks pointing out that this is a

time for family and friends getting-together to show

their love and thankfulness.

But, who needs a " Hallmark " holiday for this occasion?

We can get together the other 364 days of the year

without the excuse of a 'holiday.'

 

I have had numerous opportunities to join like-minded

folks for a holiday feast, but prefer to not look upon

this holiday as a festive occasion. Why? Because it

also represents false facts throughout American

history. Native Americans were thwarted into slavery

and near-annihilitation by the 'white man' in the name

of 'god.' Recent findings are coming out that there

was no turkey - or even any kind of 'meat' - at the

dinner; only fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains.

 

Then, back to modern times, it always bothered me that

after these dinners, the male attendees would gather

together in front of a television set to watch the

bloodsport known as 'football,' leaving the women

(slaves again to the 'white man') to clean up and

watch

after the children.

 

You are invited and welcome to join my discussion

list:

SoFlaVegans/

[We are really more like an informational " newspaper "

with at least 50 postings daily!]

 

Starting soon (way before " ThanXgiving " ) there will

appear articles, information and guides about the

history and hypocrisy of ThanXgiving, as well as how

to cope with the upcoming holidays (Chanukah, Kwanzaa,

Xmas, New Year's).

Additionally, you will find ways to fast safely and

wisely.

For those who wish to " celebrate " and not fast, you

will find literally hundreds of recipes and tips, as

well!

 

As we ready ourselves for Fur-Free Friday, I wish

everyone who is willing to " take the plunge " the best

of luck in a successful and quick fast, and may all of

our efforts pay off!

 

= = = = = = = = = =

 

Here are my other discussion lists that also contain

tons of information in each of their categories –

DAILY!!!

Please research the message archives for information

you are seeking and what you have missed:

 

Everything Yoga!

Yoga-With-Nancy/

 

American Sign Language and Deaf Culture

SignSoFla/

 

Alternative Schooling Within The School System

SoFlaSchools/

 

Om Shanti

 

Live Simply So That

Others May Simply Live

Yoga-With-Nancy/

SignSoFla/

SoFlaVegans/

SoFlaSchools/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

On Tuesday 13 November 2007, sci_lite wrote:

> I love my family, I really do, but something as silly as

> my diet becomes a bone of contention for no reason that I

> can see....I'm not looking for an argument or to insult

> anyone, but it's kind of a double bind situation with my

> family.  I think they feel I'm rejecting THEM by not

> eating the same way, and I really don't see how it's

> personal *confused*.  

 

They have their 'world view' of which they are convinced of

its correctness and so do you. If you look at this in terms

of a conflict of 'world views', then yes, of course they

feel rejected. You are going against what they consider to

be 'best'.

 

> I think it's funny that they'd

> probably react with more understanding and support if I

> were an alcoholic, or had an " acceptable " addiction with

> a standardized method of treatment.

 

Doesn't that prove the point?

Your examples above support your family's world view so no

conflict.

 

> I've been thinking

> about how to handle it, because it WILL come up, and I'm

> just going to explain, and not focus on winning any

> points or feeling upset because they might not be

> understanding.

 

Have you considered using Byron Katie's " Judge Your

Neighbour " worksheet, it really is very effective in these

situations.

 

http://www.thework.com/pdf/JYNWorksheet_10022007.pdf

 

--

the kneeling fool

 

raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind

http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/

urine_therapy

[Guest guest]

I'd never even heard of Byron Katie until your post. Thank you

 

Nicole

 

rawfood , the kneeling fool <kneel.pardoe

wrote:

>

> On Tuesday 13 November 2007, sci_lite wrote:

> > I love my family, I really do, but something as silly as

> > my diet becomes a bone of contention for no reason that I

> > can see....I'm not looking for an argument or to insult

> > anyone, but it's kind of a double bind situation with my

> > family.  I think they feel I'm rejecting THEM by not

> > eating the same way, and I really don't see how it's

> > personal *confused*.  

>

> They have their 'world view' of which they are convinced of

> its correctness and so do you. If you look at this in terms

> of a conflict of 'world views', then yes, of course they

> feel rejected. You are going against what they consider to

> be 'best'.

>

> > I think it's funny that they'd

> > probably react with more understanding and support if I

> > were an alcoholic, or had an " acceptable " addiction with

> > a standardized method of treatment.

>

> Doesn't that prove the point?

> Your examples above support your family's world view so no

> conflict.

>

> > I've been thinking

> > about how to handle it, because it WILL come up, and I'm

> > just going to explain, and not focus on winning any

> > points or feeling upset because they might not be

> > understanding.

>

> Have you considered using Byron Katie's " Judge Your

> Neighbour " worksheet, it really is very effective in these

> situations.

>

> http://www.thework.com/pdf/JYNWorksheet_10022007.pdf

>

> --

> the kneeling fool

>

> raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind

> http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/

> urine_therapy

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for these posts.

Even my " enlightened " friends think of it as a holiday to be thankful

and be with family (most of them will contribute to the cruelty and

killing of turkeys - and think nothing of all those Thanksgiving

preschool and early ed projects where a picture of a live turkey is

used). I can only imagine the horror people would have if the Nazi's

had instituted a Thanksgiving to celebrate the exterminations and

Germans were celebrating it to this day!

We are, to say the least ambivalent about this kind of holiday. As

soon as my daughter is old enough we'll trek to Plymouth for the day.

Right now a quiet day and walk in the woods sounds good.

Bea

[Guest guest]

Since just before Columbus day, my daughter's social studies class has been

reading excerpts from A Peoples' History of the United States by Howard Zinn.

She no longer has any interest in celebrating Thanksgiving.

 

 

Bea Reardon <beareardon wrote:

Thanks for these posts.

Even my " enlightened " friends think of it as a holiday to be thankful

and be with family (most of them will contribute to the cruelty and

killing of turkeys - and think nothing of all those Thanksgiving

preschool and early ed projects where a picture of a live turkey is

used). I can only imagine the horror people would have if the Nazi's

had instituted a Thanksgiving to celebrate the exterminations and

Germans were celebrating it to this day!

We are, to say the least ambivalent about this kind of holiday. As

soon as my daughter is old enough we'll trek to Plymouth for the day.

Right now a quiet day and walk in the woods sounds good.

Bea

 

 

 

 

 

 

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