TV

[Guest guest]

Hi Charles and Doreen,

 

The TV can be a marvelous source of information. I learned so much on nature, all science, including forensics, and health issues and psychology. I love things about space and latest technology. I never cared for the other stuff on TV and most of the time it is not even on. I love to cook, quilt and do various crafts and I have favorite shows pertaining to these on TV, giving me know-how and what is available for me.

 

I never used the TV as a baby sitter, and I knew I was the adult in the house who laid the rules on TV, so it was never what I consider a stunt-growing factor in my child's life or kept him from going outdoors to play or kept him from using his imagination for entertainment.

 

TV like anything on this planet can be use wisely or used foolishly. My parents had the blasted thing on from the time I woke up and to the time I went to bed driving me crazy. My mother's parents did the same thing. That thing was on all the time in the summer when I spent part of my school vacation. My dad's parents had a TV but it was hardly on. Their place was like a quiet peaceful haven. I vowed to use the TV like them and I did.

 

Susan R.

 

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Charles Wilkes

Friday, September 05, 2003 11:59 AM

TV

Doreen -- you are always full of new surprises everywhere I turn.At age 77, I grew up long before there was any TV. It started when I wasin college, but didn't have one fortunately. The ones I did see usually inthe window of a store with a crowd outside watching (people in those dayshad never seen TV before!), was as you say, unbearably staged, phoney andidotic. As a result, I've never been dependent upon TV as are so many,although I do have one since my kids are long gone now with kids of theirown. I usually watch only news, although even that is obviously staged,with the agenda of the newscaster ever present (and obvious, at least tome). Sometimes there are wonderful shows on public TV -- educational,etc., which I do watch, and am grateful for the chance in those cases only.But forget everything else. I don't need it.Charles Wilkes==================================================Thanks, Kris.While I'm on a roll: I'll tell you another secret to great health.Throwing out the TV. We did 20 years ago and never missed it.My kids grew up without a TV. They are interested in many stimulatingactivities that require active participation and physical activity,as well as any number of skills. My daughter, 18, a life-longvegetarian, is 5'4 and weighs less than 100 pounds. She's never beenon a diet in her life. My son, 17, who does capoeira, is 5'9 andweighs 130 lbs. He got a perfect physical profile at the draft officewhen he was examined last month. They've never had so much as acavity. I credit all that in large part to the fact that I didn't puttemptation in their way when they were small.Sometimes I go to someone's house and their TV is on. I sit with myback to it and give them the excuse that I can't hear what they'resaying so they turn the volume down. When you don't watch TV forawhile it looks unbearably staged, phoney and idiotic.Doreen

[Guest guest]

To Michelle --

 

Nickolodean in the morning does not have commercials or advertisements

(except to promote their own programming). This is during Dora the

Explorer, Blues Clues, Little Bill, not sure what else... we haven't watched

it in awhile. I do know that it's only during certain hours (the younger

children's programming). Since your kids are doing homework, perhaps they

are too old for these shows......

 

Lori

________________________________

 

Seems clear to me that much can be learned from good television. My

philosophy has been to ban " commercial " tv in our house. Cable has actually

allowed us to have more non-commercial options: several PBS channels, Disney

(whose only commercials are for their own programming), and several movie

channels. I believe the " kids " channels have the most commercials. We

NEVER have Nickolodean, WB, Cartoon Network or the major network kids shows

on in our home. It's true that our kids learn through osmosis about all the

" popular " commercial characters... via shopping, newspapers, magazines, and

neighbor friends.

 

Our only TV restriction is that homework, family & exercise come first.

After that, tv or computer time is ok, as long as it's non-commercial.

 

Have a good weekend.

Michelle

[Guest guest]

I've read Malcolm Muggeridge's book about the Argument for the Elimination

of Television which gives many reasons to avoid tv altogether, but

extrapolated so far I wonder if he had his tongue in his cheek. [As a guest

on tv, said they put make-up on him so he would have 'living color'.]

 

TV is not necessarily a bad thing. For years I produced educational TV for a

university. When my little boy was 5, he surprised me and a music teacher by

singing Beethoven's Ode to Joy in German. He had taught it to himself by

watching The Beatles movie Help. Repeat viewing helps kids learn, like

hearing the same bedtime story many times in a row. Sometimes the content of

what is learned is less important than learning how to learn.

 

And it isn't necessarily a bad thing for a child to play with toys from TV.

Some people may see it as simple corporate greed coercing kids into wanting

things of no value, but from the kids' point of view, they are interacting

with something they like; they feel they are part of something, like Sesame

Street or Dora or Blue's Clues. Eventually they will want to be part of

something else, like scouts or sports and wear a uniform that helps them fit

in with others. Corporations make money off that too. As parents we help

kids learn to make decisions about what things have quality and value enough

to be worth spending money participating in. Sometimes I let my son spend

his money on things I know have little value, so he can compare for himself

things with greater and lesser quality. Later he makes better choices.

 

All this applies to helping him make choices about being a vegetarian. When

he was little, he saw chickens in crates on a big truck, close enough to see

the panic in their eyes. He asked why they were there. I gave him a quick

explanation of the meat industry. He announced he didn't want to eat

animals. Then I explained what a vegetarian is, and that he already had been

one since before birth. Now he has no problem telling people he is a

vegetarian; he asks which foods have animal products and which are ok to

eat. I think it helped that we spent time talking about making choices about

tv viewing and buying toys. It helped him think.

 

Be kind. Be of good cheer.

Dick Ford

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I saw it. A few observations; 1. considering she is such a "guru", how come she is so agressive, I would have thought her diet would lead her to a serene life? 2. She seems very sensational over everything ( e.g. - if you eat lots of sugar fill a room with mirangues, if you eat a lot of salt fill a room with salt, - see a pattern emerging?) 3. She generalises , i.e. ALL takeaways are unhealthy, ALL convenience meals are unhealthy, etc Personally, I would have put fags and booze a lot higher, after all they are drugs are they not? And lastly why doesnt she just say everything in moderation isnt a bad thing? ( Yes I know it would make a short programme ) Oh and how dare her slag off my chocolate! how could she! The Valley Vegan.................heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote: Did anyone watch the Gillian McKeith programme about what she considers the top unhealthy foods? Her number 1 was fizzy drinks. I'm pleased to say I've had no more than about ten fizzy drinks in my whole life - but it's different for the chocolate and cakes, of course!Jo

[Guest guest]

I agree with all your points. I was surprised that cigarettes were number 11. She also said all chocolate is unhealthy, which we know is not true, as we have been told that dark chocolate is a healthy food.

 

Jo

 

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peter hurd

Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:18 PM

Re: TV

 

Yeah, I saw it. A few observations;

1. considering she is such a "guru", how come she is so agressive, I would have thought her diet would lead her to a serene life?

2. She seems very sensational over everything ( e.g. - if you eat lots of sugar fill a room with mirangues, if you eat a lot of salt fill a room with salt, - see a pattern emerging?)

3. She generalises , i.e. ALL takeaways are unhealthy, ALL convenience meals are unhealthy, etc

Personally, I would have put fags and booze a lot higher, after all they are drugs are they not?

And lastly why doesnt she just say everything in moderation isnt a bad thing? ( Yes I know it would make a short programme )

Oh and how dare her slag off my chocolate! how could she!

 

The Valley Vegan.................heartwerk <jo.heartwork wrote:

Did anyone watch the Gillian McKeith programme about what she considers the top unhealthy foods? Her number 1 was fizzy drinks. I'm pleased to say I've had no more than about ten fizzy drinks in my whole life - but it's different for the chocolate and cakes, of course!Jo

[Guest guest]

HI,

We saw her You are what you Eat series last year and we both thought a lot of

it, including

the families, was rehearsed and overacted. The way she goes on is obviously

dramatic to

caprure the audiences attention. I think like all celebrities she may be

different and more

normal off camera. She is playing a role, that of the Wee Scottish Natural Food

Nanny. The

stillettos and the hectoring tone are part of the role.

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

>

> Yeah, I saw it. A few observations;

> 1. considering she is such a " guru " , how come she is so agressive, I would

have

thought her diet would lead her to a serene life?

> 2. She seems very sensational over everything ( e.g. - if you eat lots of

sugar fill a

room with mirangues, if you eat a lot of salt fill a room with salt, - see a

pattern

emerging?)

> 3. She generalises , i.e. ALL takeaways are unhealthy, ALL convenience meals

are

unhealthy, etc

> Personally, I would have put fags and booze a lot higher, after all they are

drugs are

they not?

> And lastly why doesnt she just say everything in moderation isnt a bad

thing? ( Yes I

know it would make a short programme )

> Oh and how dare her slag off my chocolate! how could she!

>

> The Valley Vegan.................

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> Did anyone watch the Gillian McKeith programme about what she

> considers the top unhealthy foods? Her number 1 was fizzy drinks.

> I'm pleased to say I've had no more than about ten fizzy drinks in my

> whole life - but it's different for the chocolate and cakes, of course!

>

> Jo

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[Guest guest]

" Truth About Food " program on Discovery Health must be subsidized somewhat

by the dairy industry. The last 2 programs had 2 segments where dairy helped

lower you appetite - and the lower cholesterol. Other segments were

interesting. ????

 

Anyone know of any good raw food things going on in this medium?

Louise

 

 

 

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Thanks Erin, I knew someone from one of the Raw lists I belong to

told me about it. I enjoyed some - but others just seem way off.

 

Is it on every week - I've only watched 2. What do you think of it?

 

Louise

 

rawfood , " Erin " <zenpawn wrote:

>

> It was originally produced for the BBC.

> I blogged about it a while back here:

>

> http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog/2007/09/20/after-just-12-days-on-raw-

food/

>

>

> -Erin

> http://www.dogmafreeraw.com

>

>

> -

> Joyloulin

> rawfood

> Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:45 AM

> [Raw Food] TV

>

>

> I have been watching a program " Truth About Food " on Discovery

Health

> Network. It has had some good results about raw food. I find it

interesting

> that

> most of the tests are done in Europe but Dr OZ -the one on Oprah is

> narrating

> it. I bet they bought it from England and need an American narrator

here.

> Any of our English people have that program over there and have a

diffeent

> narrator. It's so wonderful that we have people all over he world

eating raw

> and

> that we can connect with them.

>

> I'm old enough that party lines on telephone were common - I had 4

on my

> first phone. And I remember seeing tv the first time - I was 10.

>

> Louise

>

[Guest guest]

I don't get the BBC, so only what's available on-line have I

been able to view. They're well-done, little science shorts,

not dissimilar to our own public television. It's been a

while since I watched them though; I'd have to look them over

again to offer an opinion.

 

-Erin

http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

-

loulin3

rawfood

Friday, January 04, 2008 10:16 AM

[Raw Food] Re: TV

 

 

Thanks Erin, I knew someone from one of the Raw lists I belong to

told me about it. I enjoyed some - but others just seem way off.

 

Is it on every week - I've only watched 2. What do you think of it?

 

Louise

 

rawfood , " Erin " <zenpawn wrote:

>

> It was originally produced for the BBC.

> I blogged about it a while back here:

>

> http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog/2007/09/20/after-just-12-days-on-raw-

food/

>

>

> -Erin

> http://www.dogmafreeraw.com

>

>

> -

> Joyloulin

> rawfood

> Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:45 AM

> [Raw Food] TV

>

>

> I have been watching a program " Truth About Food " on Discovery

Health

> Network. It has had some good results about raw food. I find it

interesting

> that

> most of the tests are done in Europe but Dr OZ -the one on Oprah is

> narrating

> it. I bet they bought it from England and need an American narrator

here.

> Any of our English people have that program over there and have a

diffeent

> narrator. It's so wonderful that we have people all over he world

eating raw

> and

> that we can connect with them.

>

> I'm old enough that party lines on telephone were common - I had 4

on my

> first phone. And I remember seeing tv the first time - I was 10.

>

> Louise

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<<Posted by: " Erin " _zenpawn _

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Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:39 pm (PST)

I don't get the BBC, so only what's available on-line have I

been able to view. They're well-done, little science shorts,

not dissimilar to our own public television. It's been a

while since I watched them though; I'd have to look them over

again to offer an opinion.

 

-Erin>>

 

I found them on Discovery Health

 

Louise

 

 

 

 

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Hehe. Don't get that channel either.

 

-Erin

http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

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Joyloulin

rawfood

Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:01 AM

[Raw Food] Re: TV

 

 

 

<<Posted by: " Erin " _zenpawn _

(zenpawn?Subject= Re:%20TV) _cronzen _

(http://profiles./cronzen)

Fri Jan 4, 2008 7:39 pm (PST)

I don't get the BBC, so only what's available on-line have I

been able to view. They're well-done, little science shorts,

not dissimilar to our own public television. It's been a

while since I watched them though; I'd have to look them over

again to offer an opinion.

 

-Erin>>

 

I found them on Discovery Health

 

Louise

[Guest guest]

I love TV. I'm a freelance writer and artist and mostly it is background noise

but there are some shows I like very much like Ice Road Truckers, Dirty jobs,

Mythbusters and all the CSI's. I don't so much watch tv as listen to it.

 

Heather

 

 

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