Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hello, fellow raw-foodists and health enthusiasts! I need your input! Last night, while walking home from the subway in Manhattan, I was mugged and punched twice hard in the jaw by a strong man, and now I have a jaw broken in two places (bones) but also a missing tooth and a lot of ripped-up skin inside my mouth. At the ER a doctor drilled screws into my skull and put in a wire to keep my jaw shut in place for 4 weeks, estimated. They tried to give me morphine, I refused. (I have been a raw foodist for several years now and I know that my body has become much more sensitive than it used to be). Although it hurt like hell, let me tell you. But they also gave me liquid penicillin (since I cannot open my mouth for 4 weeks all my food must be liquid--hello, juice fast?) to take home. It's sitting on my counter. Should I take it or not? An infection in my mouth could be disastrous. After all this rebuilding of immune systems with raw foods and colonics and probiotics, mine is still weak. And yet I fear the consequences of taking it--possibly ruining all the work I've done rebuilding my " good bacteria " population. Does anybody know about this more than I do and care to share? Can I take both antibiotics and probiotics simultaneously? Does that help at all? Thanks for any insight you may have! -storm ps--boy am i glad i have health insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 On Sunday 27 January 2008, Storm and/or Thin wrote: > Hello, fellow raw-foodists and health enthusiasts! I need > your input! > > Last night, while walking home from the subway in > Manhattan, I was mugged and punched twice hard in the jaw > by a strong man, and now I have a jaw broken in two > places (bones) but also a missing tooth and a lot of > ripped-up skin inside my mouth. At the ER a doctor > drilled screws into my skull and put in a wire to keep my > jaw shut in place for 4 weeks, estimated. > They tried to give me morphine, I refused. (I have been a > raw foodist for several years now and I know that my body > has become much more sensitive than it used to be). > Although it hurt like hell, let me tell you. > > But they also gave me liquid penicillin (since I cannot > open my mouth for 4 weeks all my food must be > liquid--hello, juice fast?) to take home. It's sitting on > my counter. Should I take it or not? An infection in my > mouth could be disastrous. After all this rebuilding of > immune systems with raw foods and colonics and > probiotics, mine is still weak. And yet I fear the > consequences of taking it--possibly ruining all the work > I've done rebuilding my " good bacteria " population. > > Does anybody know about this more than I do and care to > share? Can I take both antibiotics and probiotics > simultaneously? Does that help at all? > > Thanks for any insight you may have! > > -storm > > ps--boy am i glad i have health insurance. Why not try colloidal silver. It is a natural anti-biotic which means it will not destroy your healthy bio flora, it will protect you from a wide range of hundreds of bacteria fungi and viral threats too and a capful a day ( if you get it in a small 200ml bottle would be enough. I would never take anti biotics again. You may not wish too, but a regular mouth wash with your fresh urine would do wonders to help reduce pain and accelerate healing but that is up to you. If you are into meditating, pain is a really good point of focus. I've had many good deep meditations this way. -- the kneeling fool raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ urine_therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Kneeling Fool, with all due respect, I think the colloidal silver is a dangerous suggestion. Though not all may get it, one certainly risks a condition known as argyria: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria But, I can dig the meditation! I " cheat " with technology: http://www.zenpawn.com/recommends/centerpointe Regarding taking antibiotics with probiotics and vice- versa, I once asked this question of a pharmacist. We all know it's a good idea to repopulate after the fact, but I wanted to know if the probiotics would " busy " the antibiotics too much, killing off everything in site, that they'd have less effectiveness against the bad. He told me no, and suggested yogurt be taken some time after each dose. Best of luck, Storm. It's a terrible thing that happened to you! -Erin http://www.rawdonelight.com - the kneeling fool rawfood Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:36 PM Re: [Raw Food] Antibiotics??? Probiotics??? Help! On Sunday 27 January 2008, Storm and/or Thin wrote: > Hello, fellow raw-foodists and health enthusiasts! I need > your input! > > Last night, while walking home from the subway in > Manhattan, I was mugged and punched twice hard in the jaw > by a strong man, and now I have a jaw broken in two > places (bones) but also a missing tooth and a lot of > ripped-up skin inside my mouth. At the ER a doctor > drilled screws into my skull and put in a wire to keep my > jaw shut in place for 4 weeks, estimated. > They tried to give me morphine, I refused. (I have been a > raw foodist for several years now and I know that my body > has become much more sensitive than it used to be). > Although it hurt like hell, let me tell you. > > But they also gave me liquid penicillin (since I cannot > open my mouth for 4 weeks all my food must be > liquid--hello, juice fast?) to take home. It's sitting on > my counter. Should I take it or not? An infection in my > mouth could be disastrous. After all this rebuilding of > immune systems with raw foods and colonics and > probiotics, mine is still weak. And yet I fear the > consequences of taking it--possibly ruining all the work > I've done rebuilding my " good bacteria " population. > > Does anybody know about this more than I do and care to > share? Can I take both antibiotics and probiotics > simultaneously? Does that help at all? > > Thanks for any insight you may have! > > -storm > > ps--boy am i glad i have health insurance. Why not try colloidal silver. It is a natural anti-biotic which means it will not destroy your healthy bio flora, it will protect you from a wide range of hundreds of bacteria fungi and viral threats too and a capful a day ( if you get it in a small 200ml bottle would be enough. I would never take anti biotics again. You may not wish too, but a regular mouth wash with your fresh urine would do wonders to help reduce pain and accelerate healing but that is up to you. If you are into meditating, pain is a really good point of focus. I've had many good deep meditations this way. -- the kneeling fool raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ urine_therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 On Monday 28 January 2008, Erin wrote: > Kneeling Fool, with all due respect, > > I think the colloidal silver is a dangerous suggestion. > Though not all may get it, one certainly risks a > condition known as argyria: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria tut, stop scare-mongering! one has to be very stupid and very determined for that to be a problem. don't just accept what is on wikipedia, there are some serious questions about its objectivity. I still use it, but don't take it as gospel knowing it is open to abuse. http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Wikipedia.html -- the kneeling fool raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ urine_therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Who's Tut? You'll surely find such warnings elsewhere too. Wikipedia was not my original source, I just don't recall what it was and it was ready at hand. Speaking of gospel, I don't have much faith in Nexus Magazine. -Erin http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog - the kneeling fool rawfood Sunday, January 27, 2008 9:11 PM Re: [Raw Food] Antibiotics??? Probiotics??? Help! On Monday 28 January 2008, Erin wrote: > Kneeling Fool, with all due respect, > > I think the colloidal silver is a dangerous suggestion. > Though not all may get it, one certainly risks a > condition known as argyria: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria tut, stop scare-mongering! one has to be very stupid and very determined for that to be a problem. don't just accept what is on wikipedia, there are some serious questions about its objectivity. I still use it, but don't take it as gospel knowing it is open to abuse. http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/Wikipedia.html -- the kneeling fool raw, holistic, natural diet for body and mind http://health.rawfoodsforhealth/ urine_therapy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2008 Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 rawfood , " Storm and/or Thin " > > Does anybody know about this more than I do and care to share? Can I take both > antibiotics and probiotics simultaneously? Does that help at all? > > Thanks for any insight you may have! i am sorry that you suffered such a trauma i am sorry that you had no recourse but to go to a hospital and i really don't know what else you could have done i don't know what they did to you at the hospital. i would be open minded to the fact that you might need the penicillin just to compensate for what they did. i don't believe that anyone knows. it would be nice if you had options: difference types of professionals offering help to fix you but america only has one legally sanctioned option for trauma and i pray that i can avoid it until after i am dead you might heal faster without the penicillin with less side effects and better results but then again, its a crap shoot there is no way for you to know what they did they are protected by law its like eating food from a can there could be anything in it good luck and keep us posted jrellis ps - i know you don't need me to tell you how to juice, but if you are just going to juice for a while... i like white melon juice in the champion, and pineapple juice in a press, apple/pear juice in a twin gear, and tangelo juice from a levered citrus juicer. you can also have chocolate shakes with cocoa beans ground in a vitamix, with agave nectar, and maybe some almond milk, if you can find any raw almonds anymore. and don't forget macademia/banana mockicecream in the champion. i also like to make vitamix smoothies with orange juice, banana, and berries. pps - as far as the penicillin, maybe you can try to see if your body wants it through some help with arm resistance. but i didn't say that. ppps - i am [medically] " alergic " to penicillin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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