request

[Guest guest]

At 07:05 AM 10/5/00 -0400, you wrote:

>Good morning. Does anyone have a recipe that uses Jeruselum Artichokes?

>At our local farmer's market someone had a basket of them and I am

>intrigued, but don't have a clue. TIA

>-Susan

 

 

* Exported from MasterCook *

 

Sunflower Crisps

 

Recipe By : Vegetarian Times Magazine, September 1997, page 60

Serving Size : 16 Preparation Time :0:00

Categories : Appetizers And Snacks Vegetables

 

Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method

-------- ------------ --------------------------------

Vegetable oil cooking spray

2 pounds Jerusalem artichokes -- scrubbed

1 teaspoon salt -- or to taste

 

Makes 16 cups. VEGAN

 

If you have never tried Jerusalem artichokes, also known as sunchokes, you

will be amazed at how much they taste like toasted sunflower seeds. This

is because sunchokes are roots from a variety of sunflower. Avoid

sunchokes that are green in color and have sprouted. This recipe also

works well with other root vegetables such as parsnips, potatoes, beets or

celery root.

 

Preheat oven to 400 degrees. Lightly coat two cookie sheets with vegetable

oil cooking spray.

 

Using a slicer or sharp knife, cut sunchokes into thin slices, about 1/8

inch thick. Arrange slices on prepared cookie sheets. Lightly coat slices

with cooking spray.

 

Bake 10 to 12 minutes, until browned at edges and crispy, turning once

during baking with tongs. Drain on paper towels. Sprinkle with salt and

serve. Makes 16 cups. VEGAN

 

PER 1-CUP SERVING: 43 CALORIES; 1G PROTEIN; 0G TOTAL FAT; (0G SAT. FAT)

10G CARBOHYDRATE; 0G CHOLESTEROL; 147MG SODIUM; 1G FIBER

 

VARIATION: For barbecue-flavored crisps, sprinkle with hickory smoked salt

and a touch of chili powder.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Does anyone have a pasta recipe that doesn't get mushy in the crockpot?

 

-

" Jennifer Meyrose " <jmeyrose

 

Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:30 PM

question?

 

 

> Welcome to all of our new members!!!

> If anyone is looking for a particular recipe/type of recipe, please post

> it. I will do my best to find one you might enjoy.

> Happy Cooking!

> Jenny M., Moderator

> ~~

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, Sherri5762@a... wrote:

> I've gotten the last two digests as attachments because they were too long

to

> display on AOL mail... Could we please check to see that we are only

quoting relevant parts of e-mails, not the whole thing?

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Hmmm. I always try to just inlude a wee snippet and then add my reply.

However, could this also happen if some person puts too many recipes in

one post? There is a person here who doing that lately...I enjoy those recipes,

so whoever you are (ladyvelvet?) keep them coming! But maybe if that is the

case, she could place them in individual emails instead of clumps? Just a

thought.

 

I must say I have been enjoying this group very much since I joined recently

and have gotten several good ideas. Bravo to this list owner.

 

~ P_T ~

[Guest guest]

-> I enjoy those recipes, so whoever you are (ladyvelvet?) keep them coming!

 

My thanks too, ladyvelvet. Your recipes over the last few days are now

firmly glued in my recipes book.

 

Ron...

 

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[Guest guest]

It's my pleasure, glad you enjoy them. Ladyvelvet

 

--- Ron Dale <writeron wrote:

> -> I enjoy those recipes, so whoever you are

> (ladyvelvet?) keep them coming!

>

> My thanks too, ladyvelvet. Your recipes over the

> last few days are now

> firmly glued in my recipes book.

>

> Ron...

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Laura,

 

I'm so sorry you aren't feeling well. Please take care of yourself.

 

I'm having a hard time saying "no" to things myself this year, so would rather not take on sole responsibility for anything else. But I, too, would hate to see this list end. I have owned/moderated one other list (now defunct) but it was rather low-traffic. If someone would volunteer to co- with me, I would be willing to take on responsibilities for this one, just to make sure it doesn't "die." Laura, would like to visit with you about your vision for it, however, so it follows the same track.

 

Anyone up for working together?

 

Paula J.

Tulsa, OK

 

-

Laura Moore

Saturday, November 08, 2003 9:40 AM

request

 

Hi guys,

as you may have guessed i'm really having trouble keeping on top of things at the moment and just haven't got time to be active in . I have had flu for the past week which seems to have caused a flare up of my chronic fatigue syndrome and there aren't enough hours in the day as it is.

I was wondering if anyone would like to take over as owner/moderator of this group. I know its quiet at the moment but it has potential. I really feel that it is needed (judging from the number of members) and that it could be a great list. We have a bunch of really supportive people here. The problem is that i don't have enough time to get things going myself.

Would anyone like to take this on?

Unfortunately, if no one can then i'm going to have to get rid of the group, and i do think that would be a shame.

Hope you're all well out there,

take care,

 

Laura x

[Guest guest]

Hi Laura,

 

Sorry to hear you're under the weather. I'd be happy to help - on my own

or as co. This list stuff is something I totally love doing, and since I

am retired I have lots of time. Let me know!

 

Best love,

Pat

--

SANTBROWN

townhounds/

http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/

----------

* " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi

 

* " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of

animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci

----------

[Guest guest]

Pat,

 

If you'd be willing to do it, that's great. With the holidays coming, my business is picking up (massage/bodywork). So adding one more thing to the mix wouldn't be my first choice right now!

 

Thanks for offering,

 

Paula J.

 

-

Sant & Brown

Sunday, November 09, 2003 7:14 AM

Re: request

Hi Laura,Sorry to hear you're under the weather. I'd be happy to help - on my ownor as co. This list stuff is something I totally love doing, and since Iam retired I have lots of time. Let me know!

[Guest guest]

Well yes I am willing ;=) Now it is up to Laura as List Owner to decide

whether or not she really wants to relinquish this lovely list into

other hands and, if she does, to click into the right things on the

Management part of the VegetarianSlimming webpage to make it possible.

 

Can we hear from you, Laura??? What do you think? It's all up to you now!

 

Hope you are getting lots of rest and will start to feel better for it

before long.

 

Best love,

 

Pat

>

> Pat,

>

> If you'd be willing to do it, that's great. With the holidays coming, my

business is picking up

> (massage/bodywork). So adding one more thing to the mix wouldn't be my first

choice right now!

>

> Thanks for offering,

>

> Paula J.

 

--

SANTBROWN

townhounds/

http://www.angelfire.com/art/pendragon/

----------

* " I will not let anyone walk through my mind with their dirty feet " - Gandhi

 

* " The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of

animals as they now look upon the murder of men " - Leonardo da Vinci

----------

[Guest guest]

Here you go Anna.

 

Vanessa

 

Vegan parents sentenced over child's death18 November 2004 PADERBORN - A vegan mother and father whose 15-month-old son starved to death because they disapproved of dairy products, eggs and other animal foods were given a suspended jail sentence of 15 months each by a German court.The unemployed nurse, 36, and her husband, a cabinetmaker, 44, supported an extreme form of vegetarianism that considers all forms of animal fat unsuitable in the human diet. The woman gave birth to a fourth child several weeks ago.The court in the northern city of Paderborn said that by failing to go to a doctor when the breast-fed child became sick, they had committed assault leading to death. The little boy, Leon, began refusing food and died of pneumonia and malnutrition in March.The mother said she noticed Leon was ill two weeks before he died

and tried to treat him with rubs of natural oils. She said she had spoon-fed him a "milk substitute" made from almonds and coconuts.Officials in Bad Driburg, the small town where the couple live, said the family had given an undertaking to child-protection officers to feed the three surviving children eggs, fish and dairy products in future and to visit a doctor for check-ups.http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp? subchannel_id=52 & story_id=14080 & name=Vegan+parents+sentenced+over+child' s+deathAnna Blaine <anna333 wrote:

 

 

Could somebody please post the article about the vegan parents again? I'd like to pass it on.

 

Thanks!

 

Love,

Anna

 

 

Anna Blaine

anna333

Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

 

To send an email to -

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[Guest guest]

Yes Jo

 

I eat a vegan diet, I don't have my own goat yet, nor chickens.

My question was: How does one emulsify oil WITHOUT eggs.

[Guest guest]

What are you trying to cook? If you let us know we may be able to help.

 

Jo

 

 

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" jeffdevine8 " <jeffdevine8

 

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:04 PM

Re: Request

 

 

> Yes Jo

>

> I eat a vegan diet, I don't have my own goat yet, nor chickens.

> My question was: How does one emulsify oil WITHOUT eggs.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

Jo

 

I'm trying to make mayonaise. Traditionally mayonaise is made by using

a raw egg yolk to emulsify oil (thicken it), and then some vinaigre or

lemon juice to cut the richness. Thats all that you need to get a

thick mayo. And to make a caesar salad dressing, garlic and mustard

can be added.

 

I know it's possible to emulsify oil without an egg yolk because I've

purchased something called " Veganaise " which is based on canola oil. I

tried mimicking it but ended up with a big bowl of shit.

 

I am aware of mayonaise-like products that use silken tofu, but they

are just not the same. I'd buy the Veganaise all the time but it's

really expensive. And plus, I like making my own stuff anyways.

[Guest guest]

off the top of me head ..without going home and looking in my cookbooks

for salad dressings...try dry mustard..or soy lecithin...

i'm sure there are others out thereHow does one emulsify oil WITHOUT eggs.To send an email to -

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Jeff

 

I see that Lynda and Fraggle have already answered this, and I can

add nothing to what they have said. Good luck with the mayonnaise.

 

Jo

 

, " jeffdevine8 " <jeffdevine8>

wrote:

> Jo

>

> I'm trying to make mayonaise. Traditionally mayonaise is made by

using

> a raw egg yolk to emulsify oil (thicken it), and then some vinaigre

or

> lemon juice to cut the richness. Thats all that you need to get a

> thick mayo. And to make a caesar salad dressing, garlic and

mustard

> can be added.

>

> I know it's possible to emulsify oil without an egg yolk because

I've

> purchased something called " Veganaise " which is based on canola

oil. I

> tried mimicking it but ended up with a big bowl of shit.

>

> I am aware of mayonaise-like products that use silken tofu, but

they

> are just not the same. I'd buy the Veganaise all the time but it's

> really expensive. And plus, I like making my own stuff anyways.

[Guest guest]

Hi Cynthia

 

I'm sorry you had a problem with that post. It didn't come in to me in the

same format and was quite readable. I'm not sure what the problem would be.

 

Jo

 

 

Respectfully:

 

I wonder if writers could double space or enlarge the font of an entry like

the one below? My 53 year old eyes struggle with an entry like this, and

because of the wisdom in this group, I do not want to miss anything. Just

wondering.

 

Cynthia

 

 

>>Hopefully they will include vegan meals, which Lloyd Grossman didn't,

although he did introduce

[Guest guest]

Hi Cynthia

 

> I wonder if writers could double space or enlarge the font of an entry

like the one below? My 53 year old eyes struggle

> with an entry like this, and because of the wisdom in this group, I do not

want to miss anything. Just wondering.

 

I think you should be able to change the font size on your computer to make

it more readable :-)

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Hi Cynthia,

 

Even if every writer would double the size of the font, there will be always a difficulty to read other textes, I mean from other websites. A permanent solution could be, either new glasses or clicking on "reply", then you can change the font size individually. You don't need to reply effectively, but clicking on reply, you are enabled to change the font size of received e-mails.

Yannis

Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarian wrote:

Respectfully:I wonder if writers could double space or enlarge the font of an entry like the one below? My 53 year old eyes struggle with an entry like this, and because of the wisdom in this group, I do not want to miss anything. Just wondering.Cynthia>>Hopefully they will include vegan meals, which Lloyd Grossman didn't, although he did introduce vegetarian meals. Catherine - are you still here - what were your meals like? Jo NHS food 'needs Oliver treatment' Around �500m is spent on hospital food in England annually Hospital food, like school dinners, needs the "Jamie Oliver treatment", say junior doctors. The issue is to be debated at the British Medical Association's Junior Doctors Conference in London. Junior Doctors Committee chairman Dr Simon Eccles warned poor hospital food was slowing patients' recoveries. A spokesman for the Department of

Health acknowledged the need for improvement but said progress on increasing standards was being made. No difference The call to bring in the celebrity chef comes five years after former Masterchef host Loyd Grossman led an initiative to improve hospital menus. But Dr Eccles told the BBC News website an anecdotal survey of 100 junior doctors showed none reported seeing any changes in the food served in their hospital. He said: "That hasn't seemed to make any difference to the food. "What doctors are served in the evenings is pretty awful - and the food the patients get served is substantially worse. Better food would enable patients to get better more quickly Dr Simon Eccles "We often see relatives bringing in food for patients." The Department of Health says �500m is spent on hospital food in England each year, with the NHS providing 300m meals - working out at 60p per meal. Dr Eccles added: "In one hospital I worked in, the evening meal would be a sandwich, an apple and orange

juice. "If it was a beef sandwich, there would be two slices of beef and nothing else; no butter and no salad." 'Speedier recoveries' He said patients recovering from illness or surgery needed more than the normal daily intake of 2,000 calories. But patients get an average of 1,000 calories a day, he said. "Better food would enable patients to get better more quickly." He said he hoped the fact the issue was being raised at the junior doctors' conference would mean public pressure would be brought to bear on trusts who would then act to improve the food they provided. The government promised extra funding for school meals after a high profile campaign led by Oliver. A spokesman for the chef said: "We hope that when the School Dinners Campaign establishes itself in the rest of the country, the government will then take a look at how the initiative has had a major impact, as this could easily be duplicated for hospitals. We now know that good food is important for kids' general

well-being, nutrition is also crucial to the healing process Spokesman for Jamie Oliver "Just as we now know that good food is important for kids' general well-being, nutrition is also crucial to the healing process." A Department of Health spokeswoman said: "We provide around 300 million meals each year which makes it one of the largest catering operations in the world. "Having seen improvements in the quality and availability of food, there is a need to really tackle the issue of under-nourishment and its impact on clinical status." Another department spokesman said: "Work needs to be done but progress is being made to improve standards." But he said it was "wrong" to say the Grossman initiative had "failed" to improve standards. He said in 2002, just after Grossman's programme started, a report by independent inspectors showed that just 17% of hospitals offered good food. But their last set of figures showed that now 44% of hospitals offered "good food". A spokesperson for South

Downs Health NHS Trust, said patients at Brighton General Hospital were satisfied with the quality of their food. She said: "The food is handled by NHS catering, and certainly a recent survey has shown our patients are satisfied with the state of food. "We would cater for a specific diet."'Differences'

[Guest guest]

Hi Yannis

 

Sounds like a good simple remedy.

 

Jo

 

 

Hi Cynthia,

 

Even if every writer would double the size of the font, there will be always a difficulty to read other textes, I mean from other websites. A permanent solution could be, either new glasses or clicking on "reply", then you can change the font size individually. You don't need to reply effectively, but clicking on reply, you are enabled to change the font size of received e-mails.

Yannis

Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarian wrote:

Respectfully:I wonder if writers could double space or enlarge the font of an entry like the one below? My 53 year old eyes struggle with an entry like this, and because of the wisdom in this group, I do not want to miss anything. Just wondering.Cynthia>>Hopefully they will include vegan meals, which Lloyd Grossman didn't, although he did introduce vegetarian meals. Catherine - are you still here - what were your meals like? Jo NHS food 'needs Oliver treatment' Around �500m is spent on hospital food in England annually Hospital food, like school dinners, needs the "Jamie Oliver treatment", say junior doctors. The issue is to be debated at the British Medical Association's Junior Doctors Conference in London. Junior Doctors Committee chairman Dr Simon Eccles warned poor hospital food was slowing patients' recoveries. A spokesman for the Depar tment of Health acknowledged the need for improvement but said progress on increasing standards was being made. No difference The call to bring in the celebrity chef comes five years after former Masterchef host Loyd Grossman led an initiative to improve hospital menus. But Dr Eccles told the BBC News website an anecdotal survey of 100 junior doctors showed none reported seeing any changes in the food served in their hospital. He said: "That hasn't seemed to make any difference to the food. "What doctors are served in the evenings is pretty awful - and the food the patients get served is substantially worse. Better food would enable patients to get better more quickly Dr Simon Eccles "We often see relatives bringing in food for patients." The Department of Health says �500m is spent on hospital food in England each year, with the NHS providing 300m meals - working out at 60p per meal. Dr Eccles added: "In one hospital I worked in, the evening meal would be a sandwich, an apple and orange juice. "If it was a beef sandwich, there would be two slices of beef and nothing else; no butter and no salad." 'Speedier recoveries' He said patients recovering from illness or surgery needed more than the normal daily intake of 2,000 calories. But patients get an average of 1,000 calories a day, he said. "Better food would enable patients to get better more quickly." He said he hoped the fact the issue was being raised at the junior doctors' conference would mean public pressure would be brought to bear on trusts who would then act to improve the food they provided. The government promised extra funding for school meals after a high profile campaign led by Oliver. A spokesman for the chef said: "We hope that when the School Dinners Campaign establishes itself in the rest of the country, the government will then take a look at how the initiative has had a major impact, as this could easily be duplicated for hospitals. We now know that good food is important for kids' genera l well-being, nutrition is also crucial to the healing process Spokesman for Jamie Oliver "Just as we now know that good food is important for kids' general well-being, nutrition is also crucial to the healing process." A Department of Health spokeswoman said: "We provide around 300 million meals each year which makes it one of the largest catering operations in the world. "Having seen improvements in the quality and availability of food, there is a need to really tackle the issue of under-nourishment and its impact on clinical status." Another department spokesman said: "Work needs to be done but progress is being made to improve standards." But he said it was "wrong" to say the Grossman initiative had "failed" to improve standards. He said in 2002, just after Grossman's programme started, a report by independent inspectors showed that just 17% of hospitals offered good food. But their last set of figures showed that now 44% of hospitals offered "good food". A spokesperson fo r South Downs Health NHS Trust, said patients at Brighton General Hospital were satisfied with the quality of their food. She said: "The food is handled by NHS catering, and certainly a recent survey has shown our patients are satisfied with the state of food. "We would cater for a specific diet."'Differences'

[Guest guest]

Cynthia,

 

I'm new to the list, but what you're asking for can likely be solved by

adjusting your web browser and/or your email client to display fonts

larger. If you'll answer the following questions, I'll try to find out

how best to do it.

 

1) How do you read these messages?

a) If it is in a web browser (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Netscape,

Opera, Safari), tell me which one.

b) If it is in your email client (Outlook, Outlook Express,

Thunderbird, Eudora), tell me which one.

 

--Kevin

 

 

 

Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarian wrote:

Respectfully:

 

I wonder if writers could double space or enlarge the font of an entry

like the one below? My 53 year old eyes struggle with an entry like

this, and because of the wisdom in this group, I do not want to miss

anything. Just wondering.

 

Cynthia

 

 

>>Hopefully they will include vegan meals, which Lloyd Grossman

didn't, although he did introduce vegetarian meals. Catherine - are you

still here - what were your meals like? Jo NHS food 'needs Oliver

treatment' Around �500m is spent on hospital food in England annually

Hospital food, like school dinners, needs the "Jamie Oliver treatment",

say junior doctors. The issue is to be debated at the British Medical

Association's Junior Doctors Conference in London. Junior Doctors

Committee chairman Dr Simon Eccles warned poor hospital food was

slowing patients' recoveries. A spokesman for the Department of Health

acknowledged the need for improvement but said progress on increasing

standards was being made. No difference The call to bring in the

celebrity chef comes five years after former Masterchef host Loyd

Grossman led an initiative to improve hospital menus. But Dr Eccles

told the BBC News website an anecdotal survey of 100 junior doctors

showed none reported seeing any changes in the food served in their

hospital. He said: "That hasn't seemed to make any difference to the

food. "What doctors are served in the evenings is pretty awful - and

the food the patients get served is substantially worse. Better food

would enable patients to get better more quickly Dr Simon Eccles "We

often see relatives bringing in food for patients." The Department of

Health says �500m is spent on hospital food in England each year,

with the NHS providing 300m meals - working out at 60p per meal. Dr

Eccles added: "In one hospital I worked in, the evening meal would be a

sandwich, an apple and orange juice. "If it was a beef sandwich, there

would be two slices of beef and nothing else; no butter and no salad."

'Speedier recoveries' He said patients recovering from illness or

surgery needed more than the normal daily intake of 2,000 calories. But

patients get an average of 1,000 calories a day, he said. "Better food

would enable patients to get better more quickly." He said he hoped the

fact the issue was being raised at the junior doctors' conference would

mean public pressure would be brought to bear on trusts who would then

act to improve the food they provided. The government promised extra

funding for school meals after a high profile campaign led by Oliver. A

spokesman for the chef said: "We hope that when the School Dinners

Campaign establishes itself in the rest of the country, the government

will then take a look at how the initiative has had a major impact, as

this could easily be duplicated for hospitals. We now know that good

food is important for kids' general well-being, nutrition is also

crucial to the healing process Spokesman for Jamie Oliver "Just as we

now know that good food is important for kids' general well-being,

nutrition is also crucial to the healing process." A Department of

Health spokeswoman said: "We provide around 300 million meals each year

which makes it one of the largest catering operations in the world.

"Having seen improvements in the quality and availability of food,

there is a need to really tackle the issue of under-nourishment and its

impact on clinical status." Another department spokesman said: "Work

needs to be done but progress is being made to improve standards." But

he said it was "wrong" to say the Grossman initiative had "failed" to

improve standards. He said in 2002, just after Grossman's programme

started, a report by independent inspectors showed that just 17% of

hospitals offered good food. But their last set of figures showed that

now 44% of hospitals offered "good food". A spokesperson for South

Downs Health NHS Trust, said patients at Brighton General Hospital were

satisfied with the quality of their food. She said: "The food is

handled by NHS catering, and certainly a recent survey has shown our

patients are satisfied with the state of food. "We would cater for a

specific diet."'Differences'

[Guest guest]

Kevin-

 

Thanks, sweetie. I am reading email through Internet 6.0 - " Adelphia webmail " .

CK Gadarian

 

---- " Kevin L. McDonald " <kevin wrote:

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> <body bgcolor= " #ffffff " text= " #000000 " >

>

>

> <br>

> <br>

> <big><big>Cynthia,<br>

> <br>

> I'm new to the list, but what you're asking for can likely be solved by

> adjusting your web browser and/or your email client to display fonts

> larger. & nbsp; If you'll answer the following questions, I'll try to find out

> how best to do it.<br>

> <br>

> 1) & nbsp; How do you read these messages? & nbsp; <br>

> & nbsp; a) If it is in a web browser (Internet Explorer, Firefox, Netscape,

> Opera, Safari), tell me which one.<br>

> & nbsp; b) If it is in your email client (Outlook, Outlook Express,

> Thunderbird, Eudora), tell me which one.<br>

> <br>

> --Kevin</big></big><br>

> <br>

> <blockquote

> cite= " mid20050509232847.2204.qmail "

> type= " cite " >

> <div><br>

> <b><i>Cynthia Gadarian <a class= " moz-txt-link-rfc2396E "

href= " cgadarian " > & lt;cgadarian & gt;</a></i></b>

wrote:</div>

> <blockquote class= " replbq "

> style= " border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); padding-left: 5px;

margin-left: 5px; " >Respectfully:<br>

> <br>

> I wonder if writers could double space or enlarge the font of an entry

> like the one below? My 53 year old eyes struggle with an entry like

> this, and because of the wisdom in this group, I do not want to miss

> anything. Just wondering.<br>

> <br>

> Cynthia<br>

> <br>

> <br>

> & gt; & gt;Hopefully they will include vegan meals, which Lloyd Grossman

> didn't, although he did introduce vegetarian meals. Catherine - are you

> still here - what were your meals like? Jo NHS food 'needs Oliver

> treatment' Around & iuml; & iquest; & frac12;500m is spent on hospital food in

England annually

> Hospital food, like school dinners, needs the " Jamie Oliver treatment " ,

> say junior doctors. The issue is to be debated at the British Medical

> Association's Junior Doctors Conference in London. Junior Doctors

> Committee chairman Dr Simon Eccles warned poor hospital food was

> slowing patients' recoveries. A spokesman for the Department of Health

> acknowledged the need for improvement but said progress on increasing

> standards was being made. No difference The call to bring in the

> celebrity chef comes five years after former Masterchef host Loyd

> Grossman led an initiative to improve hospital menus. But Dr Eccles

> told the BBC News website an anecdotal survey of 100 junior doctors

> showed none reported seeing any changes in the food served in their

> hospital. He said: " That hasn't seemed to make any difference to the

> food. " What doctors are served in the evenings is pretty awful - and

> the food the patients get served is substantially worse. Better food

> would enable patients to get better more quickly Dr Simon Eccles " We

> often see relatives bringing in food for patients. " The Department of

> Health says & iuml; & iquest; & frac12;500m is spent on hospital food in England

each year,

> with the NHS providing 300m meals - working out at 60p per meal. Dr

> Eccles added: " In one hospital I worked in, the evening meal would be a

> sandwich, an apple and orange juice. " If it was a beef sandwich, there

> would be two slices of beef and nothing else; no butter and no salad. "

> 'Speedier recoveries' He said patients recovering from illness or

> surgery needed more than the normal daily intake of 2,000 calories. But

> patients get an average of 1,000 calories a day, he said. " Better food

> would enable patients to get better more quickly. " He said he hoped the

> fact the issue was being raised at the junior doctors' conference would

> mean public pressure would be brought to bear on trusts who would then

> act to improve the food they provided. The government promised extra

> funding for school meals after a high profile campaign led by Oliver. A

> spokesman for the chef said: " We hope that when the School Dinners

> Campaign establishes itself in the rest of the country, the government

> will then take a look at how the initiative has had a major impact, as

> this could easily be duplicated for hospitals. We now know that good

> food is important for kids' general well-being, nutrition is also

> crucial to the healing process Spokesman for Jamie Oliver " Just as we

> now know that good food is important for kids' general well-being,

> nutrition is also crucial to the healing process. " A Department of

> Health spokeswoman said: " We provide around 300 million meals each year

> which makes it one of the largest catering operations in the world.

> " Having seen improvements in the quality and availability of food,

> there is a need to really tackle the issue of under-nourishment and its

> impact on clinical status. " Another department spokesman said: " Work

> needs to be done but progress is being made to improve standards. " But

> he said it was " wrong " to say the Grossman initiative had " failed " to

> improve standards. He said in 2002, just after Grossman's programme

> started, a report by independent inspectors showed that just 17% of

> hospitals offered good food. But their last set of figures showed that

> now 44% of hospitals offered " good food " . A spokesperson for South

> Downs Health NHS Trust, said patients at Brighton General Hospital were

> satisfied with the quality of their food. She said: " The food is

> handled by NHS catering, and certainly a recent survey has shown our

> patients are satisfied with the state of food. " We would cater for a

> specific diet. " 'Differences'

[Guest guest]

There's this one - beers, ciders and wines - but it's only really useful for people in the UK (lots of our supermarket brands - not al are vegan, but those which are are clearly marked).

 

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/geraint.bevan/Vegetarian_beers.html

 

 

On Behalf Of Cynthia Gadarian24 September 2005 16:15 Subject: Request

 

Quite awhile ago someone gave me a list of Vegan Wines, Beers, and Spirits. I was wondering if this list was still available out there somewhere?

Cynthia

[Guest guest]

There are various sources on the web, if in the uk I can point you in the right direction;

http://www.animalfreeshopper.com/html/

 

Fraggles a walking encyclopedea of brewing, he will know if anyone will.

 

The Valley Vegan..............Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarian wrote:

 

 

Quite awhile ago someone gave me a list of Vegan Wines, Beers, and Spirits. I was wondering if this list was still available out there somewhere?

Cynthia Peter H

 

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Thanks, guys.

 

Looking for Sam Adams

Coffee Liqueur - Starbucks

Tequila

Vodka

Champagne-Brut

Chianti (to be enjoyed with fava beans)

 

Errr…we are schoolteachers.

Since we get paid SOOOOOOO much, we love to party.

 

Cynthia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of fraggle

Saturday, September 24, 2005

4:40 PM

 

Re: Request

 

 

 

spirits are all vegan

 

 

beer...pay no attention to the lists...

 

 

generally the people listin em haven't a clue, and tend to just lump

things together..and are widely out of date

 

 

most beers in the us are vegan..over 90%...

 

 

in the UK..steer

clear of cask conditioned beers..

 

 

 

 

 

but, there are a zillion lists on the web, and i can dig em up in ya

need

 

 

 

 

 

er if you have a brand, ask....

 

 

cheers

 

 

fraggle

 

 

 

peter hurd

Sep 24, 2005 11:07 AM

Re: Request

 

 

There are various sources on the web, if in the uk I can point

you in the right direction;

 

 

http://www.animalfreeshopper.com/html/

 

 

 

 

 

Fraggles a walking encyclopedea of brewing, he will know if anyone

will.

 

 

 

 

 

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Quite awhile ago someone gave me a list of Vegan

Wines, Beers, and Spirits. I was wondering if this list was still

available out there somewhere?

Cynthia

 

 

 

 

 

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Thanks, cutie.

 

(How do I tell if Chianti or some other

beverage is organic?)

(Second naïve question: Why do we

hate Starbucks?) [Of course, now that I know my guru’s views on this

topic – The Great Fraggle – you will not catch me going near the

place.]

 

No, I am a native Californian who has

lived in the great state of Maryland

for the last 20 years – closer to Dubya than I ever wanted to be. I

live in Central Maryland near the Pennsylvania

border and commute waaayyyyyy far away down to Greenbelt, MD.

daily to teach Special Education students (55 miles each way). <sound

of Vegans snarling over all of the gas I burn daily>

 

I swear I would RUN to the public

transportation to get to Greenbelt

but there are some major issues:

 

 

No

carpools want to drive where I need to drive.

It takes

me 1 hr. 15 min. each way by car. It would take me 3 hours each way

to take: Commuter train <choo choo>, subway and bus, AND

It would

be more expensive even with the gasoline prices AND

The

Subways are actually REMOVING seats from the subway trains to cram in more

people standing and use less subway cars, so I would have the pleasure of

standing for most of the trip.

 

Sorry.

Does someone have any idea why: as the

need for public transportation goes up, the quality of public transportation

goes down?

 

Cynthia

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of fraggle

Saturday, September 24, 2005

10:31 PM

 

RE: Request

 

 

 

all of sam adams products are vegan

 

 

 

 

 

tequila and vodka is vegan (unless you get the tequila with the worm in

it, and seriously..why?!)

 

 

 

 

 

champagne...even brut...depends on the brand

 

 

get an organic one....

 

 

 

 

 

chianti..same thing...depends on the brand...

 

 

yer in the UK

aren't you?

 

 

harder to find vegan wine there apparantly

 

 

 

 

 

doesn't starbux liquer thingee have sugar in it? i would imagine if it

does its not vegan

 

 

but..i know nuthin about

it as run far away from anything starbux..sorry...

 

 

 

Cynthia Gadarian

Sep 24, 2005 5:22 PM

RE: Request

 

Thanks,

guys.

 

Looking for Sam Adams

Coffee Liqueur - Starbucks

Tequila

Vodka

Champagne-Brut

Chianti (to be enjoyed with fava beans)

 

Errr…we are schoolteachers.

Since we get paid SOOOOOOO much, we love to party.

 

Cynthia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of fraggle

Saturday, September 24, 2005

4:40 PM

 

Re: Request

 

 

 

spirits are all vegan

 

 

beer...pay no attention to the lists...

 

 

generally the people listin em haven't a clue, and tend to just lump

things together..and are widely out of date

 

 

most beers in the us are vegan..over 90%...

 

 

in the UK..steer

clear of cask conditioned beers..

 

 

 

 

 

but, there are a zillion lists on the web, and i can dig em up in ya

need

 

 

 

 

 

er if you have a brand, ask....

 

 

cheers

 

 

fraggle

 

 

 

peter hurd

Sep 24, 2005 11:07 AM

 

 

Re: Request

 

 

There are various sources on the web, if in the uk

I can point you in the right direction;

 

 

http://www.animalfreeshopper.com/html/

 

 

 

 

 

Fraggles a walking encyclopedea of brewing, he will know if anyone will.

 

 

 

 

 

The Valley Vegan..............

 

Cynthia Gadarian <cgadarian

wrote:

 

 

 

 

Quite awhile ago someone gave me a list of Vegan

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available out there somewhere?

Cynthia

 

 

 

 

 

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