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WIDE-ROAMING CARNIVORES SUFFER MOST IN ZOOS: 10/01/03: (by James

Randerson, New Scientist): "Carnivores with large home ranges have worse

reactions to being caged than those that roam less widely in the wild,

according to a major study of zoo animal welfare. The researchers

conclude that wide-ranging carnivores should not be kept in captivity. "If

we can't keep them well then don't keep them at all," says Ros Clubb at

Oxford University, UK, who compiled the research.

 

Scientists have suggested before that range size is important, but the new

work is the first to show this with comprehensive data. The home range of

polar bears, for example, is around one million times bigger than the size

of a typical enclosure, and the species is notorious for developing

behavioural problems in captivity.

 

Journal reference: Nature (vol 425, p 473)

 

[Edited from:

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994221

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It makes sense.

I've visited a few zoos in the past...can remember seeing an animal or two pacing up and down almost like... in robot fashion.

 

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EBbrewpunx

Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:28 AM

speaking of zoos

WIDE-ROAMING CARNIVORES SUFFER MOST IN ZOOS: 10/01/03: (by JamesRanderson, New Scientist): "Carnivores with large home ranges have worsereactions to being caged than those that roam less widely in the wild,according to a major study of zoo animal welfare. The researchersconclude that wide-ranging carnivores should not be kept in captivity. "Ifwe can't keep them well then don't keep them at all," says Ros Clubb atOxford University, UK, who compiled the research.Scientists have suggested before that range size is important, but the newwork is the first to show this with comprehensive data. The home range ofpolar bears, for example, is around one million times bigger than the sizeof a typical enclosure, and the species is notorious for developingbehavioural problems in captivity.Journal reference: Nature (vol 425, p 473)[Edited from:http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994221 To send an email to -

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Hi Simon

 

You're right. Especially the big cats. If it is not too hot out for

them, they are usually walking back and forth non-stop.

 

My question is, with all the " break-through research " they claim to

do with having these animals in the zoos, why are they allowing these

poor animals to be cooped up like this? Haven't they broken through

this?

 

nikki

 

 

 

, " simon " <simonpjones@o...> wrote:

> It makes sense.

> I've visited a few zoos in the past...can remember seeing an animal

or two pacing up and down almost like... in robot fashion.

> -

> EBbrewpunx@c...

>

> Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:28 AM

> speaking of zoos

>

>

>

>

> WIDE-ROAMING CARNIVORES SUFFER MOST IN ZOOS: 10/01/03: (by James

> Randerson, New Scientist): " Carnivores with large home ranges

have worse

> reactions to being caged than those that roam less widely in the

wild,

> according to a major study of zoo animal welfare. The researchers

> conclude that wide-ranging carnivores should not be kept in

captivity. " If

> we can't keep them well then don't keep them at all, " says Ros

Clubb at

> Oxford University, UK, who compiled the research.

>

> Scientists have suggested before that range size is important,

but the new

> work is the first to show this with comprehensive data. The home

range of

> polar bears, for example, is around one million times bigger than

the size

> of a typical enclosure, and the species is notorious for

developing

> behavioural problems in captivity.

>

> Journal reference: Nature (vol 425, p 473)

>

> [Edited from:

> http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994221

>

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Can you see the link between so called 'break-through reseach' and cooping

animals up ...I can't.

Maybe the researchers should be researching diet, compassion,etc..then there

might not need to do research for some of the illnesses we inflict on

ourselves.

 

 

-- Original Message -----

" nikki_mackovitch " <nikkimack

 

Wednesday, October 15, 2003 11:04 AM

Re: speaking of zoos

 

 

> Hi Simon

>

> You're right. Especially the big cats. If it is not too hot out for

> them, they are usually walking back and forth non-stop.

>

> My question is, with all the " break-through research " they claim to

> do with having these animals in the zoos, why are they allowing these

> poor animals to be cooped up like this? Haven't they broken through

> this?

>

> nikki

>

>

>

> , " simon " <simonpjones@o...> wrote:

> > It makes sense.

> > I've visited a few zoos in the past...can remember seeing an animal

> or two pacing up and down almost like... in robot fashion.

> > -

> > EBbrewpunx@c...

> >

> > Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:28 AM

> > speaking of zoos

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > WIDE-ROAMING CARNIVORES SUFFER MOST IN ZOOS: 10/01/03: (by James

> > Randerson, New Scientist): " Carnivores with large home ranges

> have worse

> > reactions to being caged than those that roam less widely in the

> wild,

> > according to a major study of zoo animal welfare. The researchers

> > conclude that wide-ranging carnivores should not be kept in

> captivity. " If

> > we can't keep them well then don't keep them at all, " says Ros

> Clubb at

> > Oxford University, UK, who compiled the research.

> >

> > Scientists have suggested before that range size is important,

> but the new

> > work is the first to show this with comprehensive data. The home

> range of

> > polar bears, for example, is around one million times bigger than

> the size

> > of a typical enclosure, and the species is notorious for

> developing

> > behavioural problems in captivity.

> >

> > Journal reference: Nature (vol 425, p 473)

> >

> > [Edited from:

> > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994221

> >

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