Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 is that kind of like spirulina? cause I know that has b12-Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 yep, spirulina is a bluegreen algae too. I read on one site that they were debating whether it actually has b12 because the method used to measure it is not all that reliable... then it turns out this it was a pro-meat site (beyondvegetarianism.com) so i'm positive they are lying. spirulina and chlorella are both sources of b12. tempeh might be too. , " Dave " <phantombluefan> wrote: > is that kind of like spirulina? cause I know that has b12-Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 Aren't yeast extracts like Marmite and Vegemite a source for b6 and b12? It's an acquired taste, kind of salty, but once you acquire it, you're hooked and will prefer it to any jam. Spread it thinly on toast with your favorite fake butter. , " dave " <dave4sale> wrote: > I've heard lots of nonsense from meateaters that veganism isn't > natural because there's no vegetable B12 source; obviously you can > get it in vitamin supplements made in the lab but some like to insist > that all nutrients must be naturally in food (like their fortified > frosted flakes). But, my parents just sent me a supplement made out > of vegetable and it has chlorella in it and it is an excellent source > of b12. Chlorella is a type of algae. So now all you vegans can tell > those meatheads they're wrong once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 , " dave " <dave4sale> wrote: > I've heard lots of nonsense from meateaters that veganism isn't > natural because there's no vegetable B12 source;... I had always heard that nutritional yeast is supposed to be a source of B12? Also the other yeasty products that someone else mentioned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 dave wrote: > > I've heard lots of nonsense from meateaters that veganism isn't > natural because there's no vegetable B12 source; obviously you can > get it in vitamin supplements made in the lab but some like to insist > that all nutrients must be naturally in food (like their fortified > cow's milk, i suppose). But, my parents just sent me a supplement > made out of vegetable and it has chlorella in it and it is an > excellent source of b12. Not an *excellent* source. " However, the quoted levels [of B12] in Chlorella are highly variable, availability of B12 may vary with processing and, most importantly, there has been no human study confirming that it corrects B12 deficiency. " - Stephen Walsh, " Plant Based Nutrition and Health " , Vegan Society > Chlorella is a type of algae. So now all you > vegans can tell those meateaters they're wrong once again. I suppose, technically, they are ... > It has > been said that fermented soy products and spirulina contain b12, but > it sounds like the jury is still out on that one. The jury is in on spirulina; it's full of B12 analogues which fool some B12 tests and actually *inhibit* the absoroption of real B12. I've never heard that fermented soy products contain B12. > Actually, b12 whether in milk or algae is actually produced by > bacteria. This is were they get the b12 that goes into vitamin > supplements. I was also told that dirt contains b12. Can't get more > natural then dirt, right? > > http://www.living-foods.com/articles/b12issue.html The article is written by a Ms Gina Shaw, whom I have heard speak before. She proclaimed some utterly absurd things, such as that no virus or bacterium causes diseases (apparently she would be quite happy to be injected with HIV), that chemotherapy could *never* treat cancer (I know chemotherapy takes its toll on patients; but it also has proven life-extending value.) Listeners asked her for more information about the foods she said should be eaten during semi-fasts; she said she would not answer the question, because she made a living from staying with people to advise them, and selling books. She claims a Doctorate, but refuses to say where she got it. The Vegan Society page on this is a more authoratative source of information: http://www.vegansociety.com/html/food/nutrition/b12/index.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 according to this site, nutritional yeasts don't normally contain b12 unless they are fortified with it. http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/vegansources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Hi all, The Vegan society proposes B12 in capsules on their site. This product has the advantage of beeing high dosed and completely vegan. http://www.vegansociety.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=107 Kind regards, Lætitia , " dave " <dave4sale> wrote: > yep, spirulina is a bluegreen algae too. I read on one site that > they were debating whether it actually has b12 because the method > used to measure it is not all that reliable... then it turns out this > it was a pro-meat site (beyondvegetarianism.com) so i'm positive they > are lying. spirulina and chlorella are both sources of b12. tempeh > might be too. > > , " Dave " > <phantombluefan> wrote: > > is that kind of like spirulina? cause I know that has b12-Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 " dave " <dave4sale wrote: >I've heard lots of nonsense from meateaters that veganism isn't >natural because there's no vegetable B12 source; obviously you can >get it in vitamin supplements made in the lab but some like to insist >that all nutrients must be naturally in food (like their fortified >cow's milk, i suppose). But, my parents just sent me a supplement >made out of vegetable and it has chlorella in it and it is an >excellent source of b12. Chlorella is a type of algae. So now all you >vegans can tell those meateaters they're wrong once again. It has >been said that fermented soy products and spirulina contain b12, but >it sounds like the jury is still out on that one. I drink an energy drink called Red Devil (which is like Red Bull but taste much better) and that has B12 in. I emailed the company to make sure it was vegan and they said it was. I think you can get Red Devil from Safeway and some other stores. <3 Shari Black Velvet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 b12 use to be found in many soils.... you could get yer b12 from root crops, and some veggies would absorb it up modern agriculture did away with that to put it bluntly...ya use to spread sh*t on the fields...bacteria that naturally live in yer gut produce some b12..the bacteria would then colonize the flora of the soil... modern chemical laced fertilzers and pesticides did away with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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