Guest guest Posted April 12, 2004 Report Share Posted April 12, 2004 just a quick 2 pesos.. not like you haven't been gettin mine all day anyways... worship whom and wot you like... as far as gods go, as far as i can tell, you can neither prove nor disprove any of their existences..if you want to belief in the X-tian god, the jewish one, the muslim one(even if they are sorta similar), er zeus, er a tree dryad, er the local nixie livin the stream down the street, its all good....you can neither prove er disprove any of it, cuz its a belief system... if i say the sky is light blue, and you say no its azure..well..i can't say you are wrong can i??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 The Crux is that " Religions, Faith, Beliefs " tend to include a " everyone else is wrong " clause, and they do it based on the improvable. Arguing about what name to give the frequency of EM that Nitrogen and oxygen emit when struck by solar radiation isn't the problem. Its when you tell me the Light Blue is the true name and proceed to kill me when I say no it's not azure is. You can call it what you want that doesn't make you right and it doesn't make me wrong and when that comes in to question I don't see the point, we could call it, 3500 mHz or 8500 Kelvin, <the numbers are arbitrary but the methods are used> but then we could argue over the unites used to measure it, meters per seconds, or perhaps, " plank-lengths " per " tick " . We also might have to take size of the particular particles in to consideration at that level. Because, apparently all quantum particles were not created equally. The apparent color of the sky is a cumulative value not specific and it changes as we age, because the lens of the human I slowly goes opaque in the same way that the white of an egg goes " white " as it is slowly cooked by the very light which we are arguing to name. The world is bluer to babies and more orange to the elderly. To a child the sky is most likely " sky-blue " and to an elderly adult it is most likely azure (which in paint pallet is a distinctly different color). The truth is relative to the observer, based on their specific combinations of experiences. Difference in name words is only the tip of the iceberg, and is the easiest to fix, because its the easiest to see and the easiest to describe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 ok Yannis i have tried to be courteous.. these are your beliefs... see..the word is belief... get off your sanctimonious high horse... you can belief anything you want to.... but imo you are tryin to make everyone else make the same leaps of faith you do... from my point of view, you are hittin yer head against the wall of superstition..its all a matter of perspective.. You can recognise every one from her/his works. This is what I am writing about all the time. Only because of your prejudice, you don't want to recognise God from God's works. But finally it is your business if you want to recognise God or you want to run with your head against the wall (God). The wall will remain wall. But the head ?................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 You can recognise every one from her/his works. This is what I am writing about all the time. Only because of your prejudice, you don't want to recognise God from God's works. But finally it is your business if you want to recognise God or you want to run with your head against the wall (God). The wall will remain wall. But the head ?................EBbrewpunx wrote: just a quick 2 pesos..not like you haven't been gettin mine all day anyways...worship whom and wot you like...as far as gods go, as far as i can tell, you can neither prove nor disprove any of their existences..if you want to belief in the X-tian god, the jewish one, the muslim one(even if they are sorta similar), er zeus, er a tree dryad, er the local nixie livin the stream down the street, its all good....you can neither prove er disprove any of it, cuz its a belief system...if i say the sky is light blue, and you say no its azure..well..i can't say you are wrong can i??? To send an email to - Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hi folks > ok Yannis> i have tried to be courteous.. This is a first... I've never, ever known Fraggle to get even slightly niggled before... so when he does, you can bet there's something to be getting niggled about!! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Agreed! Jo ok Yannisi have tried to be courteous..these are your beliefs...see..the word is belief...get off your sanctimonious high horse...you can belief anything you want to....but imo you are tryin to make everyone else make the same leaps of faith you do...from my point of view, you are hittin yer head against the wall of superstition..its all a matter of perspective.. You can recognise every one from her/his works. This is what I am writing about all the time. Only because of your prejudice, you don't want to recognise God from God's works. But finally it is your business if you want to recognise God or you want to run with your head against the wall (God). The wall will remain wall. But the head ?................To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 - " David Brown " <quickformgreen Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:06 AM Re: About God, religion, and all that > The Crux is that " Religions, Faith, Beliefs " tend to include > a " everyone else is wrong " clause, and they do it based on the > improvable. Arguing about what name to give the frequency of EM that > Nitrogen and oxygen emit when struck by solar radiation isn't the > problem. Its when you tell me the Light Blue is the true name and > proceed to kill me when I say no it's not azure is.> Obviously when people kill for whatever reason.. be it for scientific, religion,,for kicks....it is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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