Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! The Valley Vegan......Note: forwarded message attached. Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Hi Peter, Complete vegan cat food arrives this week! Ami Vegan Cat Food from Italy. Approved by the Vegetarian Society and not animal tested. Free from animal ingredients, it includes all essential vitamins, minerals, Omega 3 and 6 oils and of course, Taurine. We are taking orders now - the food will be arriving on Thursday 13th May and orders made this week will be dispatched on Friday. Full product details on the website: http://www.VeggiePets.com ----------------------------- PRICING We are offering a bulk-buying discount! 400g bags = £2.80 Carton of 10 x 400g = £24.00 (save £4.00!) 400g bags should last an average cat between 5-8 days. If this product proves popular over the next few weeks, we will be acquiring 2kg bags that offer even better value. ----------------------------- OTHER PRODUCTS FOR CATS We have also recently introduced the following products: VegeYeast http://www.veggiepets.com/acatalog/vegeyeast.html Imported from USA, formulated for cats and dogs. A highly acidic nutritional yeast (good for healthy urinary tract) that will have them licking the bowl clean. 1361g (3lbs) - £12.50 Prozymes Vegan http://www.veggiepets.com/acatalog/prozyme_vegan.html Imported from USA, this supplement contains highly concentrated digestive enzymes that help cats and dogs improve the absorption of nutrients from their foods by up to 71%. 113g - £14.00 Missing Link Vegetarian http://www.veggiepets.com/acatalog/missing_link_vegetarian.html A tasty food supplement, containing Omega 3 oils. Can help reduce joint stiffness and improve skin and coat in both cats and dogs. 454g (1lb) - £13.88 As usual we are happy to hear any comments, criticisms, tips and suggestions. Best regards, Damian damian 02392 699 859 ========================================== We really hope this email is not intrusive. If you would rather we didn't contact you with news and offers please let us know and we promise to remove your from our Cat List. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2004 Report Share Posted May 12, 2004 You keep worms as pets??? :-) Jo - fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:54 PM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 The one where " Should carnivous/potentially herbivous animals be fed on a vegan diet if given the choice debate. ( the can of worms might just find there home in the earth yet!) - fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:54 PM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Hello all, This is a very interesting subject, and I have a interesting fact about vegetarian pets. My parents come from a state called Gujarat in India. Almost whole state is vegetarian, so no butcher shops there. All the pets we had or our neighbors had ate what we ate. Currently, one of my sisters lives in a big city in Gujarat, she has two dogs, who eat all vegetarian food and are growing beautifully. I took a video of them eating papya, pickles, rice and daal, and even papadum. This is how it is throughout the whole state. Most of the muslims living in this state eat meat so their pets get to eat meat as well. But that is a rarity. I hope you falks find this interesting. Peace. Atul simonpjones <simonpjones wrote: The one where " Should carnivous/potentially herbivous animals be fed on a vegan diet if given the choice debate. ( the can of worms might just find there home in the earth yet!) - fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:54 PM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - To send an email to - Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:54 PM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii I also meant figuratively speaking. Simon >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi Atul That is very interesting. Many years ago I had an omnivorous friend who fed her dog on a vegetarian diet - she said she smelled better that way. The dog was lovely and lived to be over 20. Jo Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 - atul patel Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:41 PM Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com Hello all, This is a very interesting subject, and I have a interesting fact about vegetarian pets. My parents come from a state called Gujarat in India. Almost whole state is vegetarian, so no butcher shops there. All the pets we had or our neighbors had ate what we ate. Currently, one of my sisters lives in a big city in Gujarat, she has two dogs, who eat all vegetarian food and are growing beautifully. I took a video of them eating papya, pickles, rice and daal, and even papadum. This is how it is throughout the whole state. Most of the muslims living in this state eat meat so their pets get to eat meat as well. But that is a rarity.> Hi Atul It's very interesting..... Are there many Vegans in the state do you know? Are there many Jains there that avoid all animal products? Simon I hope you falks find this interesting. Peace. Atul simonpjones <simonpjones wrote: The one where " Should carnivous/potentially herbivous animals be fed on a vegan diet if given the choice debate. ( the can of worms might just find there home in the earth yet!) - fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:54 PM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - To send an email to - Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi Simon, I am glad you liked my story. I know that Gujarat and Rajasthan states are full of jains, and they avoid eating all animal products as well as things that grow underground, i.e. potatoe family etc. One person in Rajasthan has lived more than a year with water and sunlight. That to me is simply amazing. Take care. Atulsimonpjones <simonpjones wrote: - atul patel Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:41 PM Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com Hello all, This is a very interesting subject, and I have a interesting fact about vegetarian pets. My parents come from a state called Gujarat in India. Almost whole state is vegetarian, so no butcher shops there. All the pets we had or our neighbors had ate what we ate. Currently, one of my sisters lives in a big city in Gujarat, she has two dogs, who eat all vegetarian food and are growing beautifully. I took a video of them eating papya, pickles, rice and daal, and even papadum. This is how it is throughout the whole state. Most of the muslims living in this state eat meat so their pets get to eat meat as well. But that is a rarity.> Hi Atul It's very interesting..... Are there many Vegans in the state do you know? Are there many Jains there that avoid all animal products? Simon I hope you falks find this interesting. Peace. Atul simonpjones <simonpjones wrote: The one where " Should carnivous/potentially herbivous animals be fed on a vegan diet if given the choice debate. ( the can of worms might just find there home in the earth yet!) - fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:54 PM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - To send an email to - Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' To send an email to - To send an email to - SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Hi Jo, I believe that your friend's dog lived longer because of the diet. Only vegetables have anti-oxidants, which take care of free radicals in our cells. This is a known fact. Also any living being eats less than their capacity lives longer. ThanX for the reply. More next time. AtulHeartwork <Heartwork wrote: Hi Atul That is very interesting. Many years ago I had an omnivorous friend who fed her dog on a vegetarian diet - she said she smelled better that way. The dog was lovely and lived to be over 20. Jo Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.comTo send an email to - SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Sounds great, although most hindu/Indians are vegetarian , they are not necessarily vegan, and their diet relies heavilly on the use of ghee ( clarified butter) in their cookery, as I understand it. The Valley Vegan....atul patel <archipat2001 wrote: Hello all, This is a very interesting subject, and I have a interesting fact about vegetarian pets. My parents come from a state called Gujarat in India. Almost whole state is vegetarian, so no butcher shops there. All the pets we had or our neighbors had ate what we ate. Currently, one of my sisters lives in a big city in Gujarat, she has two dogs, who eat all vegetarian food and are growing beautifully. I took a video of them eating papya, pickles, rice and daal, and even papadum. This is how it is throughout the whole state. Most of the muslims living in this state eat meat so their pets get to eat meat as well. But that is a rarity. I hope you falks find this interesting. Peace. Atul simonpjones <simonpjones wrote: The one where " Should carnivous/potentially herbivous animals be fed on a vegan diet if given the choice debate. ( the can of worms might just find there home in the earth yet!) - fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:54 PM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - To send an email to - Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' To send an email to - Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Not only dogs, vegan & vegetarian humans apparently are different to the olofactory system. Apparently when the British were trying to take over the world ( something we have passed over to America ), and fighting in India, the Indian army reckoned they could smell the British coming before they could see them! The Valley Vegan....Heartwork <Heartwork wrote: Hi Atul That is very interesting. Many years ago I had an omnivorous friend who fed her dog on a vegetarian diet - she said she smelled better that way. The dog was lovely and lived to be over 20. Jo Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.comTo send an email to - Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 I agree Peter. I can nearly always smell the difference between a meat-eater and a nonp0meat-eater. I expect eventually to smell the difference between a vegetarian and a vegan. Jo Not only dogs, vegan & vegetarian humans apparently are different to the olofactory system. Apparently when the British were trying to take over the world ( something we have passed over to America ), and fighting in India, the Indian army reckoned they could smell the British coming before they could see them! The Valley Vegan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 hi jo and everyone i can already sometimes smell someone who eats a lot of dairy.......and i know when i became vegan i now smell diffrent.....the dairy sometimes smelt like well errrrrrrrrm vomit to be frank.........yuch i know........apparently in china they used to say they could smell a westerner because of the dairy downwind catherine > " Heartwork " <Heartwork > > >Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Sat, 15 May 2004 20:03:20 +0100 > >I agree Peter. I can nearly always smell the difference between a >meat-eater and a nonp0meat-eater. I expect eventually to smell the >difference between a vegetarian and a vegan. > >Jo > > > Not only dogs, vegan & vegetarian humans apparently are different to the >olofactory system. Apparently when the British were trying to take over the >world ( something we have passed over to America ), and fighting in India, >the Indian army reckoned they could smell the British coming before they >could see them! > The Valley Vegan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hi Atul Sounds like a be a great place for vegans to visit...will bear those places in mind. Thanks Simon - atul patel Friday, May 14, 2004 11:11 PM Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com Hi Simon, I am glad you liked my story. I know that Gujarat and Rajasthan states are full of jains, and they avoid eating all animal products as well as things that grow underground, i.e. potatoe family etc. One person in Rajasthan has lived more than a year with water and sunlight. That to me is simply amazing. Take care. Atulsimonpjones <simonpjones wrote: - atul patel Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:41 PM Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com Hello all, This is a very interesting subject, and I have a interesting fact about vegetarian pets. My parents come from a state called Gujarat in India. Almost whole state is vegetarian, so no butcher shops there. All the pets we had or our neighbors had ate what we ate. Currently, one of my sisters lives in a big city in Gujarat, she has two dogs, who eat all vegetarian food and are growing beautifully. I took a video of them eating papya, pickles, rice and daal, and even papadum. This is how it is throughout the whole state. Most of the muslims living in this state eat meat so their pets get to eat meat as well. But that is a rarity.> Hi Atul It's very interesting..... Are there many Vegans in the state do you know? Are there many Jains there that avoid all animal products? Simon I hope you falks find this interesting. Peace. Atul simonpjones <simonpjones wrote: The one where " Should carnivous/potentially herbivous animals be fed on a vegan diet if given the choice debate. ( the can of worms might just find there home in the earth yet!) - fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:54 PM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - To send an email to - Movies - Buy advance tickets for 'Shrek 2' To send an email to - To send an email to - SBC - Internet access at a great low price. To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hi Catherine. Sometimes omnivores joke about veg**ns being 'windy' because of all the fibre they eat. They don't know what to say that you can smell meat-eaters whether they are windy or not! Jo > i can already sometimes smell someone who eats a lot of dairy.......and i > know when i became vegan i now smell diffrent.....the dairy sometimes > smelt like well errrrrrrrrm vomit to be frank.........yuch i > know........apparently in china they used to say they could smell a > westerner because of the dairy downwind > > catherine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 hi brii ha ha ha ha......i am not going to get into it again.....the pets debate......but hey its a free world catherine > " fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! " ><phytoscarfingsimianpod > > >RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Wed, 12 May 2004 17:54:48 -0400 > uh-oh....while freeing worms from a can is usually a good thing, i fear that i'm opening the figurative and awful kind with the following question (please forgive me!). ...what "pets" debate? ~~brii >peter hurd <swpgh01 > > > Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Tue, 11 May 2004 17:15:56 +0100 (BST) > >Just forwarding this for the uk posse or should it be pussy? information on vegan cat food. Personally, I haven`t tried it so I can`t comment, but the info may be of interest to some of you, and no doubt there may be one or two of you who have tried this product. It will be interesting to here the verdict, as long as we dont get into the pets debate again! >The Valley Vegan...... > >Note: forwarded message attached. > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now ><< message5.txt >> Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 heh, heh, yeah, i thought it wasn't probably a good move to ask, but...hey! i think that once an animal is domesticated, and if it's healthy for her or him, that we are equally obligated to change that animal's diet as we've changed our own for the same reasons we've changed our own. and i really frown on the housing of reptiles or scorpians(etcetera..) as "pets" at all because they must be fed live food. while in nature there's a balance between the stealth of the hunter and the evasive tactics of the potential prey-- one is the loser and one is the winner each time, and it's not predestined. the predator must win the match so often in order to sustain life, blah, blah, blah...-- in captive, the mouse placed in the lizard's cage has zilch-o chance of survival, though it must be put there for the lizard to survive, because she cannot hunt for herself. it throws a really morally-inept twist on a natural feeding. rrrg... and "pet" is a degrading word connoting that the only reason the captive (or pleasantly kept, as is usually the case!) animal exists is for the amusement of the "owner" or "master."the world would be much nicer if s/he were just someone who lived alongside her/his human guardian! ~~brii*giggle, groan*--aaaand as long as i'm griping, there needs to be a neuter pronoun that can be used in place of she/he/it that means a person of distinct gender not specified! what a cramp in my phrasing! YIKES! >"Catherine Harris" <cait2 > > >RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Sun, 16 May 2004 22:49:47 +0000 > >hi brii > >ha ha ha ha......i am not going to get into it again.....the pets >debate......but hey its a free world > >catherine > > > >"fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da!" > ><phytoscarfingsimianpod > > > > > >RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com > >Wed, 12 May 2004 17:54:48 -0400 > > > ><< message5.txt >> Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 - fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! Monday, May 17, 2004 5:24 AM RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com heh, heh, yeah, i thought it wasn't probably a good move to ask, but...hey! i think that once an animal is domesticated, and if it's healthy for her or him, that we are equally obligated to change that animal's diet as we've changed our own for the same reasons we've changed our own.> I agree, if we see ourselves as just another specie of animal that can thrive on plant based diet why not any other specie? and i really frown on the housing of reptiles or scorpians(etcetera..) as "pets" at all because they must be fed live food> I'm not so sure that is true, have retiles been given enough encouragement to try a plant based diet? Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 It's not necessarly true that the prey animal has zero chance of survival. My father (a vet) once had to treat a python. The owner had fed the python by loclking him in the closet with a rat. He came back to find several holes in his python and a fat, happy rat. I used to keep garter snakes (the only reason I don't have them anymore is because the ones I had passed on and my new landlord - my mother - said absolutely no more snakes). They were quite happy eating fish filet from the grocery store and I never fed them live prey. Love, Anna > " fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da! " ><phytoscarfingsimianpod > > >RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Mon, 17 May 2004 00:24:54 -0400 > heh, heh, yeah, i thought it wasn't probably a good move to ask, but...hey! i think that once an animal is domesticated, and if it's healthy for her or him, that we are equally obligated to change that animal's diet as we've changed our own for the same reasons we've changed our own. and i really frown on the housing of reptiles or scorpians(etcetera..) as "pets" at all because they must be fed live food. while in nature there's a balance between the stealth of the hunter and the evasive tactics of the potential prey-- one is the loser and one is the winner each time, and it's not predestined. the predator must win the match so often in order to sustain life, blah, blah, blah...-- in captive, the mouse placed in the lizard's cage has zilch-o chance of survival, though it must be put there for the lizard to survive, because she cannot hunt for herself. it throws a really morally-inept twist on a natural feeding. rrrg... and "pet" is a degrading word connoting that the only reason the captive (or pleasantly kept, as is usually the case!) animal exists is for the amusement of the "owner" or "master."the world would be much nicer if s/he were just someone who lived alongside her/his human guardian! ~~brii*giggle, groan*--aaaand as long as i'm griping, there needs to be a neuter pronoun that can be used in place of she/he/it that means a person of distinct gender not specified! what a cramp in my phrasing! YIKES! >"Catherine Harris" <cait2 > > >RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com >Sun, 16 May 2004 22:49:47 +0000 > >hi brii > >ha ha ha ha......i am not going to get into it again.....the pets >debate......but hey its a free world > >catherine > > > >"fartybriivismeisteranushead ta-da!" > ><phytoscarfingsimianpod > > > > > >RE: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com > >Wed, 12 May 2004 17:54:48 -0400 > > > ><< message5.txt >> Check out the coupons and bargains on MSN Offers! To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 my ex always complains that i make the whole haus smell like garlic wot can i say..i'm fragrant One day, a man in the health food store asked if I was vegan. I said, yes, why do you ask? He said I smelled like garlic! hehehe, I smelled like garlic long before going vegan. I love garlic. Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 One day, a man in the health food store asked if I was vegan. I said, yes, why do you ask? He said I smelled like garlic! hehehe, I smelled like garlic long before going vegan. I love garlic. Sara , " Heartwork " <Heartwork@o...> wrote: > I agree Peter. I can nearly always smell the difference between a meat-eater and a nonp0meat-eater. I expect eventually to smell the difference between a vegetarian and a vegan. > > Jo > > Not only dogs, vegan & vegetarian humans apparently are different to the olofactory system. Apparently when the British were trying to take over the world ( something we have passed over to America ), and fighting in India, the Indian army reckoned they could smell the British coming before they could see them! > The Valley Vegan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 I wonder why he equated garlic with being vegan! Jo - " Sara " <gagrip5 Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:28 AM Re: Fwd: Ami vegan cat food at VeggiePets.com > One day, a man in the health food store asked if I was vegan. I said, > yes, why do you ask? He said I smelled like garlic! hehehe, I smelled > like garlic long before going vegan. I love garlic. > Sara > > , " Heartwork " <Heartwork@o...> wrote: > > I agree Peter. I can nearly always smell the difference between a > meat-eater and a nonp0meat-eater. I expect eventually to smell the > difference between a vegetarian and a vegan. > > > > Jo > > > > Not only dogs, vegan & vegetarian humans apparently are different > to the olofactory system. Apparently when the British were trying to > take over the world ( something we have passed over to America ), and > fighting in India, the Indian army reckoned they could smell the > British coming before they could see them! > > The Valley Vegan.... > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Don't know. Maybe he knew one vegan and that person happened to love garlic? , " Heartwork " <Heartwork@o...> wrote: > I wonder why he equated garlic with being vegan! > > Jo > - > " Sara " <gagrip5> > > > One day, a man in the health food store asked if I was vegan. I said, > > yes, why do you ask? He said I smelled like garlic! hehehe, I smelled > > like garlic long before going vegan. I love garlic. > > Sara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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