Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 In a message dated 5/15/04 4:24:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: Without tring to sound too extreme, the effects of eating animals ultimately are disease, war misery etc. Interesting! You know it reminds me of a Buddhist poem, and I am paraphrasing here...it says: "Why is there war and suffering? Because we ignore the midnight cries in the slaughterhouse." It's part of a bigger poem...I can find it anyone is interested. Kristina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Kristina, I would love to read that whole poem. I do occasionally eat the some veggie hotdogs or substitute meat, it does help me...i'll eat beans and tofu, but i just don't cook them that often because i'm not a big cooker, but if i go out to eat i will order those kind of things, i usually order things that i never cook, because either i don't know how to cook them or i don't really know what to do with it after i cook it....like tempeh...i have bought some, but it just sits there. Samanthalv2breathe wrote: In a message dated 5/15/04 4:24:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: Without tring to sound too extreme, the effects of eating animals ultimately are disease, war misery etc. Interesting! You know it reminds me of a Buddhist poem, and I am paraphrasing here...it says: "Why is there war and suffering? Because we ignore the midnight cries in the slaughterhouse." It's part of a bigger poem...I can find it anyone is interested. Kristina To send an email to - SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 - lv2breathe Cc: Lv2breathe Saturday, May 15, 2004 4:43 PM Re: Spiritual effects of meat eating In a message dated 5/15/04 4:24:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: Without tring to sound too extreme, the effects of eating animals ultimately are disease, war misery etc. Interesting! You know it reminds me of a Buddhist poem, and I am paraphrasing here...it says: "Why is there war and suffering? Because we ignore the midnight cries in the slaughterhouse." It's part of a bigger poem...I can find it anyone is interested.> Is that poem by Budda of a Buddhist? I have a poem... .War! War! War no more! That lowly Meat-eating brings to our door, Sorry to judge in such a way, But for the misery it brings What more can you say? It's done in ignorance without a care and by being misled, usually as a baby when first being fed, So remember that dream of true peace on earth in everyway by letting the animals live their lives today. As far as I am aware all major religions have a vegetarian diet as a basic teaching. Pity It is not practiced by everyone. I'd like to hear the rest of that Buddist poem Simon To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 I believe that thought is also part of Hare Krishna-ism. My Hare Krishna friend certainly reckons that is the case..... and as Simon has said many times, basically the world is in such a bad state because people eat animals. Jo Without tring to sound too extreme, the effects of eating animals ultimately are disease, war misery etc. Interesting! You know it reminds me of a Buddhist poem, and I am paraphrasing here...it says: "Why is there war and suffering? Because we ignore the midnight cries in the slaughterhouse." It's part of a bigger poem...I can find it anyone is interested. Kristina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Hi Samantha It is fine to eat the meat substitutes. Just make sure you are getting as varied a diet as possible, and check for hydrogenated fats. Jo I do occasionally eat the some veggie hotdogs or substitute meat, it does help me...i'll eat beans and tofu, but i just don't cook them that often because i'm not a big cooker, but if i go out to eat i will order those kind of things, i usually order things that i never cook, because either i don't know how to cook them or i don't really know what to do with it after i cook it....like tempeh...i have bought some, but it just sits there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 Hi Simon I like the poem you quoted - thanks. Jo I have a poem... .War! War! War no more! That lowly Meat-eating brings to our door, Sorry to judge in such a way, But for the misery it brings What more can you say? It's done in ignorance without a care and by being misled, usually as a baby when first being fed, So remember that dream of true peace on earth in everyway by letting the animals live their lives today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 i'm interested! i'd like to see that ~brii >lv2breathe > > >CC: Lv2breathe > Re: Spiritual effects of meat eating >Sat, 15 May 2004 11:43:00 EDT > >In a message dated 5/15/04 4:24:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > writes: >Without tring to sound too extreme, the effects of eating animals ultimately >are disease, war misery etc. >Interesting! You know it reminds me of a Buddhist poem, and I am >paraphrasing here...it says: > >"Why is there war and suffering? >Because we ignore the midnight cries in the slaughterhouse." > >It's part of a bigger poem...I can find it anyone is interested. > >Kristina Getting married? Find tips, tools and the latest trends at MSN Life Events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 I'll try not to go on so much about it jo. Yes Hare Krishnas' do believe their is a direct link to animal slaughter and wars etc like some taist, hindus etc..Thats why I have come to believe it.It seems to make simple sense even without having to believe in a God. Simon - Heartwork Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:10 PM Re: Re: Spiritual effects of meat eating I believe that thought is also part of Hare Krishna-ism. My Hare Krishna friend certainly reckons that is the case..... and as Simon has said many times, basically the world is in such a bad state because people eat animals. Jo Without tring to sound too extreme, the effects of eating animals ultimately are disease, war misery etc. Interesting! You know it reminds me of a Buddhist poem, and I am paraphrasing here...it says: "Why is there war and suffering? Because we ignore the midnight cries in the slaughterhouse." It's part of a bigger poem...I can find it anyone is interested. KristinaTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Thanks Jo I jotted it down about 3 years ago. Simon - Heartwork Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:14 PM Re: Re: Spiritual effects of meat eating Hi Simon I like the poem you quoted - thanks. Jo I have a poem... .War! War! War no more! That lowly Meat-eating brings to our door, Sorry to judge in such a way, But for the misery it brings What more can you say? It's done in ignorance without a care and by being misled, usually as a baby when first being fed, So remember that dream of true peace on earth in everyway by letting the animals live their lives today.To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hi Simon I didn't mean to imply you were 'going on about it'. It's a good point well made. Jo I'll try not to go on so much about it jo. Yes Hare Krishnas' do believe their is a direct link to animal slaughter and wars etc like some taist, hindus etc..Thats why I have come to believe it.It seems to make simple sense even without having to believe in a God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hi Jo Sorry for thinking you might of been...I sometimes think I go on about things too much...With some family members.. it's more they don't want to listnen when It's to do with veganism...It's like talking to a brick wall. What is worse about it ...My parents lived on a farm with cows and chickens for a few years and it hasn't changed their minds about meat. I really can't help having little respect for them, though I care for them and everyone really. Your pitied look might say more to them! lol Simon - Heartwork Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:04 PM Re: Re: Spiritual effects of meat eating Hi Simon I didn't mean to imply you were 'going on about it'. It's a good point well made. Jo I'll try not to go on so much about it Jo. Yes Hare Krishnas' do believe their is a direct link to animal slaughter and wars etc like some taist, hindus etc..Thats why I have come to believe it.It seems to make simple sense even without having to believe in a God.To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Sorry just back tracking, should of said....Your pitying look. - Heartwork Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:04 PM Re: Re: Spiritual effects of meat eating Hi Simon I didn't mean to imply you were 'going on about it'. It's a good point well made. Jo I'll try not to go on so much about it jo. Yes Hare Krishnas' do believe their is a direct link to animal slaughter and wars etc like some taist, hindus etc..Thats why I have come to believe it.It seems to make simple sense even without having to believe in a God.To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 I agree with you about eating meat and wars. After all we are what we eat. Violence stems from violence. My forefathers belived that we do not have a right to relase a soul of any living creature, that right is given to a few balancer animals, like tiger, lion, etc. I am not sure if we are the balancer of animal life. I just watched an interesting Science Channels show about our origins. The first humanoid that walked the earth was a vegetarian. Her given name is lucy. The scientists were able to tell from her bones and built. Take care. AtulHeartwork <Heartwork wrote: I believe that thought is also part of Hare Krishna-ism. My Hare Krishna friend certainly reckons that is the case..... and as Simon has said many times, basically the world is in such a bad state because people eat animals. Jo Without tring to sound too extreme, the effects of eating animals ultimately are disease, war misery etc. Interesting! You know it reminds me of a Buddhist poem, and I am paraphrasing here...it says: "Why is there war and suffering? Because we ignore the midnight cries in the slaughterhouse." It's part of a bigger poem...I can find it anyone is interested. KristinaTo send an email to - SBC - Internet access at a great low price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 - atul patel Monday, May 17, 2004 1:59 AM Re: Re: Spiritual effects of meat eating I agree with you about eating meat and wars. After all we are what we eat. Violence stems from violence. My forefathers belived that we do not have a right to relase a soul of any living creature, that right is given to a few balancer animals, like tiger, lion, etc. I am not sure if we are the balancer of animal life.> The only written form I know of that says we ought to be the balancers of animals diet is in The Genesis account of Creation. We already take control of so many animals that giving Lions, tigers etc plant foods if they wanted it..wouldn't be so impractical as I'm sure they would prefer it to chasing animals around for food...it would make their lives easier and would certainly make the poor victims of their cruel attacks happier. It's a controversial subject at present..but in the future it will seem logical and correct. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Simon; Oh, so you wrote the poem? I enjoyed it very much. Sara , " simonpjones " <simonpjones@o...> wrote: > Thanks Jo > > I jotted it down about 3 years ago. > > Simon > - > Heartwork > > Hi Simon > > I like the poem you quoted - thanks. > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2004 Report Share Posted May 27, 2004 Thanks Sara Once in a blue moon I feel like having a go at a poem. From what I have read and having given it some thought I think that human wars and animal slaughter are directly linked. Simon - " Sara " <gagrip5 Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:32 AM Re: Spiritual effects of meat eating > Simon; > Oh, so you wrote the poem? I enjoyed it very much. > Sara > , " simonpjones " <simonpjones@o...> > wrote: > > Thanks Jo > > > > I jotted it down about 3 years ago. > > > > Simon > > - > > Heartwork > > > > Hi Simon > > > > I like the poem you quoted - thanks. > > > > Jo > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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