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Hi Cath AKA Pengam Pagan,

No need to hang your head, I hope you find inner peace and your tolerance grows without compromising your beliefs ( or am I contradicting myself?) .

I try ( use the word strongly) to treat others as I would like to be treated, and have brought my two girls to do the same.

P.S. Where`s that Guava?

The Valley Vegan....Catherine Harris <cait2 wrote:

hi peter aka valley vegani take your point about sounding hypocritical about meat in the fridge etc......i think my patience at not being tolerated has been pushed too far and now i feel like i have swung to the all or nothing point of view!i am aware it might look stupid!!catherinehangs headpengam pagan>peter hurd > > >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner>Sat, 29 May 2004 13:58:28 +0100 (BST)>>Hi Cath,>Hope you are well, your ex come across as a bit of a doughnut from the >picture you portrayed, but I am surprised that you can have no tolerance >for a meat eating partner to share your fridge/living space with his choice >of

food, yet you say he did not accept your veganism?! Is this the pot >calling the kettle black........no offence meant Welsh Princess.>The Valley Vegan......>>Catherine Harris wrote:>of course there must be meat eaters who are reasonable....my best friend is>a veggie and her partner was ok with that until they had kids, now she >cooks>meat for the kids because he wants it that way.......>>so i think a persons overall attitude to personal choice will be an>indicator as to whether they are tolerating ones being a vegan, or trully>support it...>>and when you have kids, its important to have worked that all out >beforehand>so difficulties dont happen around choice..>>personally, i prefer a meat free kitchen and wont have it in the house>again.....thats my choice..>>catherine>>> >Ian

McDonald> > > > > >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner> >Sun, 23 May 2004 02:51:09 +0100> >> >> >> >Catherine Harris wrote:> > >> > > hi all> > >> > > ican only speak for myself, but last year i ended a long relationship> >with a> > > meat eater....at first he was accepting of my vegetarianism, as it was> >at> > > first....but when we moved in together, he put extreme pressure on me >to> > > cook meat........it became a source of his being stubborn and >completely> > > refusing to eat in the house at all because i cooked veggie food, and >he> > > started to only eat take aways, which led to real financial> >issues......he> >

> wouldnt cook himself.......> > >> >> >This utterly astonishes me, not so much from an animal welfare> >perspective as a "What a crappy boyfriend" perspective. Let me count the> >ways. Expecting you to cook for him. Expecting you to subordinate your> >ethics to him. Being unable to handle his own money.> >> >It's important to make the distinction because there are a lot of> >omnivores who can manage a perfectly fine relationship. My last> >girlfriend, for instance, barely ever even had cow milk in her tea when> >I was around - which I've got to admit is beyond the call of> >relationship duty.>>>>>>To send an email to - >

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hey valley vegan

 

or peter as you are known lol

 

good that you are bringing up your girls that way!!.......as for the guava,

i will hunt one down (forgive me for hunting terminology) and bring it with

me when i next come to bargoed......or a jar of guava jelly

 

catherine

 

missing pengam!!

 

 

>peter hurd <swpgh01

>

>

>Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner

>Thu, 3 Jun 2004 14:40:00 +0100 (BST)

>

>Hi Cath AKA Pengam Pagan,

>No need to hang your head, I hope you find inner peace and your tolerance

>grows without compromising your beliefs ( or am I contradicting myself?) .

> I try ( use the word strongly) to treat others as I would like to be

>treated, and have brought my two girls to do the same.

>P.S. Where`s that Guava?

>The Valley Vegan....

>

>Catherine Harris <cait2 wrote:

>hi peter aka valley vegan

>

>i take your point about sounding hypocritical about meat in the fridge

>etc......i think my patience at not being tolerated has been pushed too far

>and now i feel like i have swung to the all or nothing point of view!

>

>i am aware it might look stupid!!

>

>catherine

>

>hangs head

>

>pengam pagan

>

>

> >peter hurd

> >

> >

> >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner

> >Sat, 29 May 2004 13:58:28 +0100 (BST)

> >

> >Hi Cath,

> >Hope you are well, your ex come across as a bit of a doughnut from the

> >picture you portrayed, but I am surprised that you can have no tolerance

> >for a meat eating partner to share your fridge/living space with his

>choice

> >of food, yet you say he did not accept your veganism?! Is this the pot

> >calling the kettle black........no offence meant Welsh Princess.

> >The Valley Vegan......

> >

> >Catherine Harris wrote:

> >of course there must be meat eaters who are reasonable....my best friend

>is

> >a veggie and her partner was ok with that until they had kids, now she

> >cooks

> >meat for the kids because he wants it that way.......

> >

> >so i think a persons overall attitude to personal choice will be an

> >indicator as to whether they are tolerating ones being a vegan, or trully

> >support it...

> >

> >and when you have kids, its important to have worked that all out

> >beforehand

> >so difficulties dont happen around choice..

> >

> >personally, i prefer a meat free kitchen and wont have it in the house

> >again.....thats my choice..

> >

> >catherine

> >

> >

> > >Ian McDonald

> > >

> > >

> > >Re: vegan children & a meat-eating partner

> > >Sun, 23 May 2004 02:51:09 +0100

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Catherine Harris wrote:

> > > >

> > > > hi all

> > > >

> > > > ican only speak for myself, but last year i ended a long

>relationship

> > >with a

> > > > meat eater....at first he was accepting of my vegetarianism, as it

>was

> > >at

> > > > first....but when we moved in together, he put extreme pressure on

>me

> >to

> > > > cook meat........it became a source of his being stubborn and

> >completely

> > > > refusing to eat in the house at all because i cooked veggie food,

>and

> >he

> > > > started to only eat take aways, which led to real financial

> > >issues......he

> > > > wouldnt cook himself.......

> > > >

> > >

> > >This utterly astonishes me, not so much from an animal welfare

> > >perspective as a " What a crappy boyfriend " perspective. Let me count

>the

> > >ways. Expecting you to cook for him. Expecting you to subordinate your

> > >ethics to him. Being unable to handle his own money.

> > >

> > >It's important to make the distinction because there are a lot of

> > >omnivores who can manage a perfectly fine relationship. My last

> > >girlfriend, for instance, barely ever even had cow milk in her tea when

> > >I was around - which I've got to admit is beyond the call of

> > >relationship duty.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >To send an email to -

> >

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