Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 I am sure some of you have experienced this... An ex bf of mine, who was very very vegan when we were together, started eating meat again. When I first heard this...the decision to go back to meat...I am not sure why but it was really disturbing. His rational is that he feels he needs to do it for health. He is enrolled in Chinese medicine school...and according to if you don't eat meat, then you lose your vitality over time. He is afraid of losing it...and has told me that as a female, I should be eating meat for the iron, for my strength. I am sure part of it is also that he just wants to fit in more. He is going to move to Spain and they aren't that veggie friendly and he probably doesn't want much separation from others. Anyways...when I first heard his decision it kind of HURT...like I didn't know him anymore. It was a very strange feeling indeed...and because he gave in for his own personal health reasons it made me question if he really cared about the issues at all. I think that maybe he was a "health vegan" all this time! I visited him not too long ago...and we saw a coop of chickens. They were such beautiful creatures and I mentioned how sad that we cram them into factory farms. He said nothing...like he all of the sudden made a decision that he didn't care about those issues anymore. It was like he was a totally different person. It could be his meds...he's been on two anti-depressants for years now...and I am thinking that that may have changed him. Another change is that when I knew him he wasn't that political...and now he is rabidly political...inserting imflammatory political ideas into conversations that had nothing to do with politics at all. He has become very, very angry and nihilistic, indeed. Anyways...just was curious if anyone has seen this happen in their friends. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2004 Report Share Posted September 8, 2004 welcome to my world.... maybe he has the "i'm fraggle's ex" disease..... my last three gurlfriends dropped being vegan as soon as we broke up... lv2breathe Sep 8, 2004 12:21 PM Cc: Lv2breathe Ex started eating meat I am sure some of you have experienced this... An ex bf of mine, who was very very vegan when we were together, started eating meat again. When I first heard this...the decision to go back to meat...I am not sure why but it was really disturbing. His rational is that he feels he needs to do it for health. He is enrolled in Chinese medicine school...and according to if you don't eat meat, then you lose your vitality over time. He is afraid of losing it...and has told me that as a female, I should be eating meat for the iron, for my strength. I am sure part of it is also that he just wants to fit in more. He is going to move to Spain and they aren't that veggie friendly and he probably doesn't want much separation from others. Anyways...when I first heard his decision it kind of HURT...like I didn't know him anymore. It was a very strange feeling indeed...and because he gave in for his own personal health reasons it made me question if he really cared about the issues at all. I think that maybe he was a "health vegan" all this time! I visited him not too long ago...and we saw a coop of chickens. They were such beautiful creatures and I mentioned how sad that we cram them into factory farms. He said nothing...like he all of the sudden made a decision that he didn't care about those issues anymore. It was like he was a totally different person. It could be his meds...he's been on two anti-depressants for years now...and I am thinking that that may have changed him. Another change is that when I knew him he wasn't that political...and now he is rabidly political...inserting imflammatory political ideas into conversations that had nothing to do with politics at all. He has become very, very angry and nihilistic, indeed. Anyways...just was curious if anyone has seen this happen in their friends. K To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 , lv2breathe@a... wrote: > I am sure some of you have experienced this... > > An ex bf of mine, who was very very vegan when we were together, started > eating meat again. > > When I first heard this...the decision to go back to meat...I am not sure why Obviously your BF was not sincerely Vegan. It is always good to know the true choices/nature of people. I have several challenges and prefer to be alone. However, one woman used to sit in front of me everyday with Vegetarian Food. She said that she is a Vegetarian. After a while this did attract my attention. Then there was a pause for sometime as there were no opportunities for Lunch together. Later on, all of a sudden I saw her eating recently at Lunch and decided to join her. She was eating a burger with meat slices that were in all 1.5 " thick !!! I didn't mention anything and acted casual. However, this tells me all that I need to know. But for that she also overeats and is very unfocused with regards to several things. Looks at life like a cake walk. She also said that she is frugal and collected several frugal info. from me. Maybe she could have got all my interests from other people close to me and then planned a very strategic approach. I have to admit here that I am still attracted to her for her initial approach. Also feel that she may change. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 , rvijay07@m... wrote: > > Obviously your BF was not sincerely Vegan. It is always good to know the true choices/nature of people. > > I have several challenges and prefer to be alone. However, one > woman used to sit in front of me everyday with Vegetarian Food. Also have to admit that she gave me a Vegan Relapse. After I started thinking about her, about two weeks ago, I bought and ate 4 bars of milk chocolate and one 2L pack of Ice Cream !!! Later I felt really guilty about it. She over eats a lot and is addicted to chocolate. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2004 Report Share Posted September 9, 2004 Well, this has never happened to me,being that I am new to all of this...... But you just have to look at it as the person you were dating is not the strong minded person it takes to be a vegan or vegetarian.....and although I sense you still care for him, it is best that you two went your own ways..... Maybe the meat-eating is what is making him angry now......just makes you glad that you don't eat meat.. PJlv2breathe wrote: I am sure some of you have experienced this... An ex bf of mine, who was very very vegan when we were together, started eating meat again. When I first heard this...the decision to go back to meat...I am not sure why but it was really disturbing. His rational is that he feels he needs to do it for health. He is enrolled in Chinese medicine school...and according to if you don't eat meat, then you lose your vitality over time. He is afraid of losing it...and has told me that as a female, I should be eating meat for the iron, for my strength. I am sure part of it is also that he just wants to fit in more. He is going to move to Spain and they aren't that veggie friendly and he probably doesn't want much separation from others. Anyways...when I first heard his decision it kind of HURT...like I didn't know him anymore. It was a very strange feeling indeed...and because he gave in for his own personal health reasons it made me question if he really cared about the issues at all. I think that maybe he was a "health vegan" all this time! I visited him not too long ago...and we saw a coop of chickens. They were such beautiful creatures and I mentioned how sad that we cram them into factory farms. He said nothing...like he all of the sudden made a decision that he didn't care about those issues anymore. It was like he was a totally different person. It could be his meds...he's been on two anti-depressants for years now...and I am thinking that that may have changed him. Another change is that when I knew him he wasn't that political...and now he is rabidly political...inserting imflammatory political ideas into conversations that had nothing to do with politics at all. He has become very, very angry and nihilistic, indeed. Anyways...just was curious if anyone has seen this happen in their friends. KTo send an email to - "Never frown, someone could be falling in love with your smile." Lots of love, **PJ** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 Not everyone is vegan for the same reasons. I am often ridiculed by other vegans because I am vegan for environmental reasons (and because I love beer). Anyway, people change. He may have been a health vegan and was then convinced that meat is healthy. He seems to be basing his diet on health. But, it is no ding against you and nothing personal. My ex, who was the person who helped me go vegan has now gone back to eating meat, etc. Sad, but it's his life. I was mad at first, too, cause he was kinda my role model for veganism. Also, yeah, the anti-depressants may have something to do with it. I have found that, sure, they even out your down moods, but they also tend to flatten out all of your other emotions at the same time. It is hard to feel anger (at factory farms) or empathy (for the animals) or much of anything but just blah. That is just my experience, though. sara , lv2breathe@a... wrote: > I am sure some of you have experienced this... > > An ex bf of mine, who was very very vegan when we were together, started > eating meat again. > > When I first heard this...the decision to go back to meat...I am not sure why > but it was really disturbing. His rational is that he feels he needs to do > it for health. He is enrolled in Chinese medicine school...and according to > if you don't eat meat, then you lose your vitality over time. > He is afraid of losing it...and has told me that as a female, I should be > eating meat for the iron, for my strength. I am sure part of it is also that he > just wants to fit in more. He is going to move to Spain and they aren't that > veggie friendly and he probably doesn't want much separation from others. > > Anyways...when I first heard his decision it kind of HURT...like I didn't > know him anymore. It was a very strange feeling indeed...and because he gave in > for his own personal health reasons it made me question if he really cared > about the issues at all. I think that maybe he was a " health vegan " all this > time! > > I visited him not too long ago...and we saw a coop of chickens. They were > such beautiful creatures and I mentioned how sad that we cram them into factory > farms. He said nothing...like he all of the sudden made a decision that he > didn't care about those issues anymore. It was like he was a totally different > person. > > It could be his meds...he's been on two anti-depressants for years now...and > I am thinking that that may have changed him. Another change is that when I > knew him he wasn't that political...and now he is rabidly political...inserting > imflammatory political ideas into conversations that had nothing to do with > politics at all. He has become very, very angry and nihilistic, indeed. > > Anyways...just was curious if anyone has seen this happen in their friends. > > K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 , " Sara " <gagrip5> wrote: > Not everyone is vegan for the same reasons. I am often ridiculed by > other vegans because I am vegan for environmental reasons (and > because I love beer). Anyway, people change. He may have been a > health vegan and was then convinced that meat is healthy. He seems to > be basing his diet on health. This is true that many become Vegan for different reasons. I am beginning to realize/accept this more and more everyday. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2004 Report Share Posted September 10, 2004 , " Sara " <gagrip5> wrote: > Also, yeah, the anti-depressants may have something to do with it. I > have found that, sure, they even out your down moods, but they also > tend to flatten out all of your other emotions at the same time. It > is hard to feel anger (at factory farms) or empathy (for the animals) > or much of anything but just blah. That is just my experience, though. > sara > It is specially hard when a role model changes. However, there are several other good people here. Hope you continue to get support and be a vegan. It is hard for me to imagine a Vegan starting to eat meat, a vegetarian sometimes it is understandable. However, considering the medications he is taking this may be explained. Thanks for your post. This gives me the idea for another topic here. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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