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This is nuts. (Pun totally intended) I spoke with the hospital nutritionist

today as to what " diet " I am supposed to be following for the pancreatitis and

diverticulitis and other assorted itis's. Still cannot tolerate solids other

than sf yogurt, applesauce, mashed banana and a few spoons of the barley

mushroom soup the husband person managed to make. Still dehydrated and my

electrolytes are a mess. (way low potassium and magnesium) Cannot drink that

Gatorade or pedialyte stuff (instant rental not to mention what it does to my

glucose levels).

 

She said no green leafy veggies, no raw veggies or fruits (kill me now), no

seeds, no nuts but otherwise a high fiber high carb low fat diet. I asked her

(forgive me but by this point in the phone conversation I was not overly amused

by her attitude that somehow my vegetarianism contributed to the infections in

my alcohol free body) to tell me what I COULD eat and she trotted out (day for

puns, sorry) chicken and beef broth and Jello. I then asked her what she would

do if/when they had a patient who followed Kosher or Halal (Muslim) dietary

laws. She said that was " different, " and they had " guidelines to follow, " and

that vegetarianism was just a choice. *click*

 

Ooooooooookkkkk. Right.

 

So dear lovely people, other than draining canned vegetarian veggie soup 3 times

a day (which the husband person has been doing) and living on applesauce and sf

yogurt (no gelatine added), what can you guys come up with? I'm very anemic now

and can barely focus on the monitor. I am lacto-ovo but the poached egg I tried

a few days ago didn't even slow down before exiting. KWIM? (rice won't go down

either.)

 

I want a salad with lots of crunchy green veggies and sprouts and sunflower seed

kernels and tomatoes and cucumbers and and and and.....

 

*sighs* Any ideas??? Pleeeeeeeeeeaese!! Jeanne in GA lusting over a bowl of

spinach or broccoli or or or...

 

PS: On the " good " side of the coin, I have lost 30 pounds in a month.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Is there another registered dietician or nutritionist in your area?

Surely someone understands your beliefs and dilemma?

Samantha

 

This is nuts. (Pun totally intended) I spoke with the hospital

nutritionist today as to what " diet " I am supposed to be following for

the pancreatitis and diverticulitis and other assorted itis's. Still

cannot tolerate solids other than sf yogurt, applesauce, mashed banana

and a few spoons of the barley mushroom soup the husband person managed

to make. Still dehydrated and my electrolytes are a mess. (way low

potassium and magnesium) Cannot drink that Gatorade or pedialyte stuff

(instant rental not to mention what it does to my glucose levels).

 

 

 

 

 

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Jeanne,

 

If it were me, I would have steamed veggies including (and

especially steamed greens - unless she gave you a SPECIFIC reason

not to eat them). Also kitcheree is the best food to eat. It has

healing foods for the immune system like onions, garlic and ginger;

protein from mungs and Basmati rice and healing herbs and

carminative herbs that help digestion. Steamed roots give minerals

to body like beets and carrots, etc. You can live on kitcheree and

eat nothing else. It is easy to digest. Also, bananas, pears and

baked apples. Potato peel broth is great for potassium.

 

GB

 

, treazure noname

<treazured wrote:

>

> This is nuts. (Pun totally intended) I spoke with the hospital

nutritionist today as to what " diet " I am supposed to be following

for the pancreatitis and diverticulitis and other assorted itis's.

Still cannot tolerate solids other than sf yogurt, applesauce,

mashed banana and a few spoons of the barley mushroom soup the

husband person managed to make. Still dehydrated and my

electrolytes are a mess. (way low potassium and magnesium) Cannot

drink that Gatorade or pedialyte stuff (instant rental not to

mention what it does to my glucose levels).

>

> She said no green leafy veggies, no raw veggies or fruits (kill me

now), no seeds, no nuts but otherwise a high fiber high carb low fat

diet. I asked her (forgive me but by this point in the phone

conversation I was not overly amused by her attitude that somehow my

vegetarianism contributed to the infections in my alcohol free body)

to tell me what I COULD eat and she trotted out (day for puns,

sorry) chicken and beef broth and Jello. I then asked her what she

would do if/when they had a patient who followed Kosher or Halal

(Muslim) dietary laws. She said that was " different, " and they

had " guidelines to follow, " and that vegetarianism was just a

choice. *click*

>

> Ooooooooookkkkk. Right.

>

> So dear lovely people, other than draining canned vegetarian

veggie soup 3 times a day (which the husband person has been doing)

and living on applesauce and sf yogurt (no gelatine added), what can

you guys come up with? I'm very anemic now and can barely focus on

the monitor. I am lacto-ovo but the poached egg I tried a few days

ago didn't even slow down before exiting. KWIM? (rice won't go down

either.)

>

> I want a salad with lots of crunchy green veggies and sprouts and

sunflower seed kernels and tomatoes and cucumbers and and and

and.....

>

> *sighs* Any ideas??? Pleeeeeeeeeeaese!! Jeanne in GA lusting over

a bowl of spinach or broccoli or or or...

>

> PS: On the " good " side of the coin, I have lost 30 pounds in a

month.....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I'm not a dietitian or anything but can you tolerate smoothies? soft tofu in

the blender w/fruits, add some protein powder? yikes. maybe cream of wheat?

good luck.

Beth

 

Samantha Lea <saml wrote:

Is there another registered dietician or nutritionist in your area?

Surely someone understands your beliefs and dilemma?

Samantha

 

This is nuts. (Pun totally intended) I spoke with the hospital

nutritionist today as to what " diet " I am supposed to be following for

the pancreatitis and diverticulitis and other assorted itis's. Still

cannot tolerate solids other than sf yogurt, applesauce, mashed banana

and a few spoons of the barley mushroom soup the husband person managed

to make. Still dehydrated and my electrolytes are a mess. (way low

potassium and magnesium) Cannot drink that Gatorade or pedialyte stuff

(instant rental not to mention what it does to my glucose levels).

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How about V8? Could you tolerate that? At least the website says it contains

both Magnesium and Potassium. Plus they also have the fruit juice ones. How

about Soy smoothies to up your protein intake? I have actually heard of adding

spinach to some as well and that would help your anemia. I doubt you could

stomach those liquid vitamins. Those don't taste to good. Thinking of you.

Debbie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Jeanne,

 

I'm new here, but I wanted to say I'm so sorry you're going through this

& have to deal with such an awful nutritionist to boot. When a friend

was going through chemo a few years ago, my partner and I made Susun

Weed's Immune A-Go-Go Soup for her in huge batches. It's specifically

for people who are having chemo or radiation, but we'd save out a bit

and freeze it, and it really was a big help whenever one of us was

coming down with anything. Maybe starting out with just the broth and

building up to the soup as you feel better would help? Here's the

veggie version of the recipe from SW's " Breast Cancer? Breast Health! "

Hope you feel better soon!

 

Peace,

Maureen

 

Serves 6-8

 

2 cups beet roots or tops, sliced (parsnips are great too)

2 cups water (spring water or filtered water)

1 cup dried seaweed (2 cups/500 ml after soaking)

6 cups cabbage, thinly sliced

3 onions, sliced from top to bottom (like crescent moons)

4 tablespoons olive oil

1 teaspoon sea salt

10--20 cloves garlic, sliced

1 thumb's worth of ginger, sliced

4 ounces fresh shiitake, reishii, or wild mushrooms

~ or 1 ounce dried mushrooms

2 cups carrots, sliced

8--12 cups spring water or filtered water

1 ounce dried Siberian ginseng root, whole or cut

 

 

Cover beets with water; cook until tender, about 20 minutes. Meanwhile,

soak seaweed in hot water. On a low fire, saute the cabbage and onion in

olive oil until limp, 5--10 minutes. Add salt, garlic, ginger,

mushrooms, carrots, cooked beets and their cooking water, seaweed and

its soaking water (watch out for grit at the bottom), and Siberian

ginseng. Stir well. Add water. Cover the pot tightly and raise the heat

to high. As soon as the soup boils, reduce the heat. Simmer for 1 hour.

Let it rest for several hours or overnight. Reheat before serving. Don't

worry about leftovers. The taste of this soup improves as it ages.

 

 

 

 

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I have to get into this and I don't know so much about it but I do have

rememberances...18 mo. old toddler when I had 5 lbs 13 oz each twins. There

wasn't a lot of extra cash in those days...so I did change pediatricians when

the first one didn't know how to solve one of the twins' crying a LOT. Well,

pediatrician #2 gave me lots of free advice...if you have upset tummy or the

poops try ripe bananas. Things like spinach, kale, lettuce, greenery things are

hard to digest and don't do the job. Milk is like bananas...it will stop you

up. So try milkshakes. Applesauce is the opposite. The first goal is to find

something you can keep down for a day or two and stick to that. Then start

branching out to plain rice...no butter, no sugar just rice. People are NOT

allergic to rice. And, after than try changing doctors or tell this one you

have had it with the dietician and you want the name of a different one and be

specific.

And, Pediatrics 101 addresses hernias with little boys. Very prevalent and that

was causing my baby to cry. He had an operation the week before I had a biopsy

for breast cancer. He did well and I came out okay.

You are in my prayers, Luanne

 

 

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This reminds me of the BRAT diet, my pediatrician had me use when the girls had

diarrhea. B - Banana's R - Rice A - Apples T - Toast.

It always worked.

Judy

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Luanne Moore

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:47 PM

Re: feed me Seymour......please?

 

 

I have to get into this and I don't know so much about it but I do have

rememberances...18 mo. old toddler when I had 5 lbs 13 oz each twins. There

wasn't a lot of extra cash in those days...so I did change pediatricians when

the first one didn't know how to solve one of the twins' crying a LOT. Well,

pediatrician #2 gave me lots of free advice...if you have upset tummy or the

poops try ripe bananas. Things like spinach, kale, lettuce, greenery things are

hard to digest and don't do the job. Milk is like bananas...it will stop you up.

So try milkshakes. Applesauce is the opposite. The first goal is to find

something you can keep down for a day or two and stick to that. Then start

branching out to plain rice...no butter, no sugar just rice. People are NOT

allergic to rice. And, after than try changing doctors or tell this one you have

had it with the dietician and you want the name of a different one and be

specific.

And, Pediatrics 101 addresses hernias with little boys. Very prevalent and

that was causing my baby to cry. He had an operation the week before I had a

biopsy for breast cancer. He did well and I came out okay.

You are in my prayers, Luanne

 

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My Dr told me to give my baby jello water for her diarrhea..when she had it.

 

She was constipated most of the time.. And I had to give her karo syrup

 

Mixed with her formula to keep her regulated.

 

Becky

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wwjd

1/2/2007 10:59:45 PM

 

Re: Re: feed me Seymour......please?

 

This reminds me of the BRAT diet, my pediatrician had me use when the girls

had diarrhea. B - Banana's R - Rice A - Apples T - Toast.

It always worked.

Judy

-

Luanne Moore

 

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 9:47 PM

Re: feed me Seymour......please?

 

I have to get into this and I don't know so much about it but I do have

rememberances...18 mo. old toddler when I had 5 lbs 13 oz each twins. There

wasn't a lot of extra cash in those days...so I did change pediatricians

when the first one didn't know how to solve one of the twins' crying a LOT.

Well, pediatrician #2 gave me lots of free advice...if you have upset tummy

or the poops try ripe bananas. Things like spinach, kale, lettuce, greenery

things are hard to digest and don't do the job. Milk is like bananas...it

will stop you up. So try milkshakes. Applesauce is the opposite. The first

goal is to find something you can keep down for a day or two and stick to

that. Then start branching out to plain rice...no butter, no sugar just rice

People are NOT allergic to rice. And, after than try changing doctors or

tell this one you have had it with the dietician and you want the name of a

different one and be specific.

And, Pediatrics 101 addresses hernias with little boys. Very prevalent and

that was causing my baby to cry. He had an operation the week before I had a

biopsy for breast cancer. He did well and I came out okay.

You are in my prayers, Luanne

 

 

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That soup looks like it will be wonderful! Adding ingredients to the growing

list of " Oh Honey, while you're at the store... "

 

I did get some baby rice cereal with applesauce followed by a cup of yogi tea

down last night. (Tea Masala mixed with black tea and a little honey.)

 

I don't really much like spinach through the juicer (even though I love spinach)

but since I am so anemic I'll do that and toss it in soup or mix with my

favorite V8.

 

Crossing fingers that I don't react to the " special " dye that the radiologist

had to order for my next CAT scan.

 

Ah well, bed calleth. Love to all, Jeanne in GA

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hope you are starting to do better. I' m not a doctor or dietician, but I read

on a

pancreatitis website that common allergy foods such as eggs, dairy, soy, and

beef can

aggravate some cases of the illness. You may be doing the right thing sticking

to

bananas, applesauce, soup and whåtever liquids you can tolerate.

 

Not understanding why you are supposed to avoid fruits, other than too fibrous

right

now?

Yikes, Tell the dietician you're Buddhist or Seventh Day Adventist, there, now

it's religious,

not a " choice " all better. Take care and don't hesitate to try another

nutriotionist or call

your doctor's office! Don't take chances w/ your health : )

 

 

, treazure noname <treazured wrote:

>

> This is nuts. (Pun totally intended) I spoke with the hospital nutritionist

today as to

what " diet " I am supposed to be following for the pancreatitis and

diverticulitis and other

assorted itis's. Still cannot tolerate solids other than sf yogurt, applesauce,

mashed

banana and a few spoons of the barley mushroom soup the husband person managed

to

make. Still dehydrated and my electrolytes are a mess. (way low potassium and

magnesium) Cannot drink that Gatorade or pedialyte stuff (instant rental not to

mention

what it does to my glucose levels).

>

> She said no green leafy veggies, no raw veggies or fruits (kill me now), no

seeds, no

nuts but otherwise a high fiber high carb low fat diet. I asked her (forgive me

but by this

point in the phone conversation I was not overly amused by her attitude that

somehow my

vegetarianism contributed to the infections in my alcohol free body) to tell me

what I

COULD eat and she trotted out (day for puns, sorry) chicken and beef broth and

Jello. I

then asked her what she would do if/when they had a patient who followed Kosher

or

Halal (Muslim) dietary laws. She said that was " different, " and they had

" guidelines to

follow, " and that vegetarianism was just a choice. *click*

>

> Ooooooooookkkkk. Right.

>

> So dear lovely people, other than draining canned vegetarian veggie soup 3

times a day

(which the husband person has been doing) and living on applesauce and sf yogurt

(no

gelatine added), what can you guys come up with? I'm very anemic now and can

barely

focus on the monitor. I am lacto-ovo but the poached egg I tried a few days ago

didn't

even slow down before exiting. KWIM? (rice won't go down either.)

>

> I want a salad with lots of crunchy green veggies and sprouts and sunflower

seed

kernels and tomatoes and cucumbers and and and and.....

>

> *sighs* Any ideas??? Pleeeeeeeeeeaese!! Jeanne in GA lusting over a bowl of

spinach or

broccoli or or or...

>

> PS: On the " good " side of the coin, I have lost 30 pounds in a month.....

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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