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As I've said before, I'm a gastric bypass patient, I've lost 275 pounds,

but in the past month I've gained 30 pounds, which my doctor feels is due to

a few reasons, 1, I can't walk much anymore, so lack of exercise, 2, I

ve been on 50 mgs of prednizone 3x a day for six weeks for chronic

bronchitis.... Regardless, I don't need this 30 pounds, of which 15 I

gained in ONE day !!! My questions are.

 

My iron level is 4, I don't know what it's supposed to be, but I am taking

3 shots a week now, plus 325 mgs of iron twice a day for the next 3 months

to build it back up. Also, because of the bypass, I no longer process b-12

vitamins from food in the normal fashion, So, I either have to take the

shots, sublingual, or, eat more foods rich in b12, of course I don't know

what those are. I've been having strange symptoms, night sweats, but still

cold and clammy, so tired I can't think , and a strange pain in my middle

uppper back...so I had to have a cat scan of my lungs and a cardiogram. It

seems the symptoms I'm having are symtoms common to women about six weeks

prior to having a heart attack. I hope it's not that of course, but I'll

know Friday. But I digress.. Too much on my mind :)

 

So ladies and gentlemen, I need help in iron rich items to eat, that are

easy to cook and also ways to get b12 into my diet in a steady dose thru the

day, since the sublinguals don't seem to work and I really hate the shots,

besides they are very expensive, like 40 dollars a bottle plus the cost of

needles which are 50 cents each here. And of course my insurance won't pay

for it because it's a vitamin :( Oh well. Any help at all or menu

suggestions is so greatly appreciated. I just have to get the printer

hooked up so I can print out these recipies instead of hand writing them...

 

 

 

 

Thanks so very much in advance for all your help and great menues and

recipies.

 

Marcia

 

 

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http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/nutrition/iron.html

Here is a great list of lot of foods, all vegetarian. Make sure you get lots of

Vit. C to help with absorption.

Enjoy,

Judy

 

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Marcia Tippett

Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:38 AM

Questions as always

 

 

As I've said before, I'm a gastric bypass patient, I've lost 275 pounds,

but in the past month I've gained 30 pounds, which my doctor feels is due to

a few reasons, 1, I can't walk much anymore, so lack of exercise, 2, I

ve been on 50 mgs of prednizone 3x a day for six weeks for chronic

bronchitis.... Regardless, I don't need this 30 pounds, of which 15 I

gained in ONE day !!! My questions are.

 

My iron level is 4, I don't know what it's supposed to be, but I am taking

3 shots a week now, plus 325 mgs of iron twice a day for the next 3 months

to build it back up. Also, because of the bypass, I no longer process b-12

vitamins from food in the normal fashion, So, I either have to take the

shots, sublingual, or, eat more foods rich in b12, of course I don't know

what those are. I've been having strange symptoms, night sweats, but still

cold and clammy, so tired I can't think , and a strange pain in my middle

uppper back...so I had to have a cat scan of my lungs and a cardiogram. It

seems the symptoms I'm having are symtoms common to women about six weeks

prior to having a heart attack. I hope it's not that of course, but I'll

know Friday. But I digress.. Too much on my mind :)

 

So ladies and gentlemen, I need help in iron rich items to eat, that are

easy to cook and also ways to get b12 into my diet in a steady dose thru the

day, since the sublinguals don't seem to work and I really hate the shots,

besides they are very expensive, like 40 dollars a bottle plus the cost of

needles which are 50 cents each here. And of course my insurance won't pay

for it because it's a vitamin :( Oh well. Any help at all or menu

suggestions is so greatly appreciated. I just have to get the printer

hooked up so I can print out these recipies instead of hand writing them...

 

Thanks so very much in advance for all your help and great menues and

recipies.

 

Marcia

 

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Hi Marcia,

 

Here's a list of iron rich foods:

http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient & dbid=70#foodsources

Nutritional yeast is a good source of B12. I haven't double checked

this, so I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a

tablespoon or so a day of a brand like Red Star vegetarian support

formula meets the minimum daily requirement for B12.

 

Hope you feel better soon!

 

Peace,

Maureen

 

Marcia Tippett wrote:

>

> So ladies and gentlemen, I need help in iron rich items to eat, that are

> easy to cook and also ways to get b12 into my diet in a steady dose thru the

> day

>

>

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Trouble thinking streight and the depression are symptoms of B12 deficiency.

Katie

 

Marcia Tippett <ladymarcia_55 wrote:

As I've said before, I'm a gastric bypass patient, I've lost 275

pounds,

but in the past month I've gained 30 pounds, which my doctor feels is due to

a few reasons, 1, I can't walk much anymore, so lack of exercise, 2, I

ve been on 50 mgs of prednizone 3x a day for six weeks for chronic

bronchitis.... Regardless, I don't need this 30 pounds, of which 15 I

gained in ONE day !!! My questions are.

 

My iron level is 4, I don't know what it's supposed to be, but I am taking

3 shots a week now, plus 325 mgs of iron twice a day for the next 3 months

to build it back up. Also, because of the bypass, I no longer process b-12

vitamins from food in the normal fashion, So, I either have to take the

shots, sublingual, or, eat more foods rich in b12, of course I don't know

what those are. I've been having strange symptoms, night sweats, but still

cold and clammy, so tired I can't think , and a strange pain in my middle

uppper back...so I had to have a cat scan of my lungs and a cardiogram. It

seems the symptoms I'm having are symtoms common to women about six weeks

prior to having a heart attack. I hope it's not that of course, but I'll

know Friday. But I digress.. Too much on my mind :)

 

So ladies and gentlemen, I need help in iron rich items to eat, that are

easy to cook and also ways to get b12 into my diet in a steady dose thru the

day, since the sublinguals don't seem to work and I really hate the shots,

besides they are very expensive, like 40 dollars a bottle plus the cost of

needles which are 50 cents each here. And of course my insurance won't pay

for it because it's a vitamin :( Oh well. Any help at all or menu

suggestions is so greatly appreciated. I just have to get the printer

hooked up so I can print out these recipies instead of hand writing them...

 

Thanks so very much in advance for all your help and great menues and

recipies.

 

Marcia

 

 

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Brown Rice is also a good source for the B vitamins.

Judy

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Maureen

Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:55 AM

Re: Questions as always

 

 

Hi Marcia,

 

Here's a list of iron rich foods:

http://whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient & dbid=70#foodsources

Nutritional yeast is a good source of B12. I haven't double checked

this, so I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a

tablespoon or so a day of a brand like Red Star vegetarian support

formula meets the minimum daily requirement for B12.

 

Hope you feel better soon!

 

Peace,

Maureen

 

Marcia Tippett wrote:

>

> So ladies and gentlemen, I need help in iron rich items to eat, that are

> easy to cook and also ways to get b12 into my diet in a steady dose thru the

> day

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

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Marcia,

 

That is great you lost all that weight previously. It is virtually

impossible to undo something that has been already done to your

body. Charlie Weis, the coach of Notre Dame had gastic bypass

surgery and called it the biggest mistake of his life. He now has a

court case pending in NY State.

 

Just shoveling more supplements is not the answer. You need to

process them. If I were you, I would eat easy to digest foods such

as steamed veggies, fresh fruit and kitcheree. Also, take a GOOD

probiotic supplement with every meal. This will recolonize the

intestines. The bacteria in the intestines can produce their own

B12. Eat digestive herbs when cooking such as turmeric, cumin,

coriander, etc.

 

GB

, " Marcia Tippett "

<ladymarcia_55 wrote:

>

> As I've said before, I'm a gastric bypass patient, I've lost 275

pounds,

> but in the past month I've gained 30 pounds, which my doctor feels

is due to

> a few reasons, 1, I can't walk much anymore, so lack of

exercise, 2, I

> ve been on 50 mgs of prednizone 3x a day for six weeks for chronic

> bronchitis.... Regardless, I don't need this 30 pounds, of which

15 I

> gained in ONE day !!! My questions are.

>

> My iron level is 4, I don't know what it's supposed to be, but I

am taking

> 3 shots a week now, plus 325 mgs of iron twice a day for the next

3 months

> to build it back up. Also, because of the bypass, I no longer

process b-12

> vitamins from food in the normal fashion, So, I either have to

take the

> shots, sublingual, or, eat more foods rich in b12, of course I

don't know

> what those are. I've been having strange symptoms, night sweats,

but still

> cold and clammy, so tired I can't think , and a strange pain in

my middle

> uppper back...so I had to have a cat scan of my lungs and a

cardiogram. It

> seems the symptoms I'm having are symtoms common to women about

six weeks

> prior to having a heart attack. I hope it's not that of course,

but I'll

> know Friday. But I digress.. Too much on my mind :)

>

> So ladies and gentlemen, I need help in iron rich items to eat,

that are

> easy to cook and also ways to get b12 into my diet in a steady

dose thru the

> day, since the sublinguals don't seem to work and I really hate

the shots,

> besides they are very expensive, like 40 dollars a bottle plus the

cost of

> needles which are 50 cents each here. And of course my insurance

won't pay

> for it because it's a vitamin :( Oh well. Any help at all or

menu

> suggestions is so greatly appreciated. I just have to get the

printer

> hooked up so I can print out these recipies instead of hand

writing them...

>

>

>

>

> Thanks so very much in advance for all your help and great menues

and

> recipies.

>

> Marcia

>

>

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Thanks so much, this is a very informative web site.

 

Last nite I had an acorn and butternut squash I was afraid was going to go

bad, so I baked both in the oven, then just put them in the fridge, so today

for lunch, I took a half of a butternut, added abit of nutmeg, splenda and

lots of pepper and it was very good, I didn't know if I could nuke it or

not, but it came out very well.

 

Every experiment is a lesson learned.

 

Marcia

 

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wwjd

1/25/2007 7:52:37 AM

 

Re: Questions as always

 

http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/nutrition/iron.html

Here is a great list of lot of foods, all vegetarian. Make sure you get lots

of

Vit. C to help with absorption.

Enjoy,

Judy

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Oh, this reminds me of a similar question. I have two acorn squash that

I've had awhile. They are still rock hard but have turned from green to

yellow. Are they still good?

 

Sharon

 

Marcia Tippett wrote:

> Thanks so much, this is a very informative web site.

>

> Last nite I had an acorn and butternut squash I was afraid was going to go

> bad, so I baked both in the oven, then just put them in the fridge, so today

> for lunch, I took a half of a butternut, added abit of nutmeg, splenda and

> lots of pepper and it was very good, I didn't know if I could nuke it or

> not, but it came out very well.

>

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Yes, I would prefer to get my nutrients from my food and not from a handful

of pills. I don't know what kitcheree is though, or probiotic supplement?

I have tried and tried to eat rice, but it feels like I ate a ton of

bricks and I end up usually barfing it all up. Then all I want is sweets

after that :( Which is another habit I'm trying to get rid of. I love

grapefruits, especially ruby reds, but now I hear that grapefruit often

times wrecks havoc on meds you are taking, so I'm going to check that out

ASAP.

My daily diet is usually things like

Breakfast 1 cup of Kashi with 1/2 cup of rice milk or sometimes I just

put apple or oj on it instead of the milk..; I know, I'm strange. Or I

have oatmeal or cream of wheat. Lunch is usually some sort of veggie soup

or salad that is loaded with cukes, tomatoes, carrots, onions, and I do use

cheese. I use a pretty varied mix of greens in it as well. Dinner is at

least 3 types of veggies and a slice of whole grain bread. Snacks are

usually more fruit, or popcorn. I have some sort of beans every day since

that's the only thing I know of veggie whise that has protein in it. As

for my bypass, I used to weigh 475 pounds, so, although it might not have

been the wisest decision, at the time, with my health issues, it was the

right decision for me and at 5'4. 475 is not acceptable. I also lost

another 400 pounds when my ex husband left me .. His alternative was, if I

had the surgery, He was leaving me. Even though the doctors had only given

me a few months to live due to a heart condition and COPD and I needed a

very rapid method to lose the weight. I think the stress of 25 years with

him contributed to the weight gain, although after the bypass, they found a

tumor on my thyroid and ended up taking out all of my thyroid last year.

Luckily it was benign. Sometimes I wonder why they didn't find it before

the bypass.. I might not have needed the bypass if it had been detected

earlier .. But I'll never know now. I have been learning so much in this

group, it's wonderful.!!! Everyone here is so nice and so informative and

the recipes are wonderful. I've tried several and it is so nice to see so

much variety. I had envisioned a life of eating nothing but beans and

squash and salads for the rest of my life and I'm amazed at all the things

you can do and not eat the red stuff

Thanks so much for your help.

 

Marcia

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Hi Marcia,

I love both butternut and acorn squash. That is great that you were up for the

adventure of tasting new foods. How did you bake it?

 

I'm glad you checked out that website. It is very good and I love the list at

the bottom, with all the breakdowns on vegetarian sources of iron.

 

Judy

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Marcia Tippett

Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:38 AM

Re: Questions as always

 

 

Thanks so much, this is a very informative web site.

 

Last nite I had an acorn and butternut squash I was afraid was going to go

bad, so I baked both in the oven, then just put them in the fridge, so today

for lunch, I took a half of a butternut, added abit of nutmeg, splenda and

lots of pepper and it was very good, I didn't know if I could nuke it or

not, but it came out very well.

 

Every experiment is a lesson learned.

 

Marcia

 

----

 

wwjd

1/25/2007 7:52:37 AM

Re: Questions as always

 

http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/nutrition/iron.html

Here is a great list of lot of foods, all vegetarian. Make sure you get lots

of

Vit. C to help with absorption.

Enjoy,

Judy

 

 

 

 

 

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I just split them in half, sprayed them with some olive oil spritzer and a

dash of pepper and baked them at 350 til they were fork tender, I even

toasted the seeds with olive oil and some garlic salt til they were crunchy.

 

 

Marcia

 

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wwjd

1/28/2007 9:17:32 PM

 

Re: Questions as always

 

Hi Marcia,

I love both butternut and acorn squash. That is great that you were up for

the adventure of tasting new foods. How did you bake it?

 

I'm glad you checked out that website. It is very good and I love the list

at the bottom, with all the breakdowns on vegetarian sources of iron.

 

Judy

-

Marcia Tippett

 

Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:38 AM

Re: Questions as always

 

Thanks so much, this is a very informative web site.

 

Last nite I had an acorn and butternut squash I was afraid was going to go

bad, so I baked both in the oven, then just put them in the fridge, so today

for lunch, I took a half of a butternut, added abit of nutmeg, splenda and

lots of pepper and it was very good, I didn't know if I could nuke it or

not, but it came out very well.

 

Every experiment is a lesson learned.

 

Marcia

 

----

 

wwjd

1/25/2007 7:52:37 AM

 

Re: Questions as always

 

http://www.fatfreekitchen.com/nutrition/iron.html

Here is a great list of lot of foods, all vegetarian. Make sure you get lots

of

Vit. C to help with absorption.

Enjoy,

Judy

 

 

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Marcia

 

Here is a link for all sorts of kitcheree recipes. There are

kitcheree recipe(s?) in the group files also.

 

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient & ie=UTF-

8 & rls=GGLH,GGLH:1969-53,GGLH:en & q=kitcheree+recipe

 

Probiotics are bacteria similiar to the good bacteria in yogurt.

They help the body digest and eliminate food. If these bacteria are

low, then all sorts of problems will result. Things will not digest

and toxins will manifest.

 

All I can say is try it and see what happens. It seems to me a

better and safer alternative than your present situation.

 

Best wishes,

GB

 

, " Marcia Tippett "

<ladymarcia_55 wrote:

>

> Yes, I would prefer to get my nutrients from my food and not from

a handful

> of pills. I don't know what kitcheree is though, or probiotic

supplement?

> I have tried and tried to eat rice, but it feels like I ate a

ton of

> bricks and I end up usually barfing it all up. Then all I want is

sweets

> after that :( Which is another habit I'm trying to get rid of.

I love

> grapefruits, especially ruby reds, but now I hear that grapefruit

often

> times wrecks havoc on meds you are taking, so I'm going to check

that out

> ASAP.

> My daily diet is usually things like

> Breakfast 1 cup of Kashi with 1/2 cup of rice milk or

sometimes I just

> put apple or oj on it instead of the milk..; I know, I'm

strange. Or I

> have oatmeal or cream of wheat. Lunch is usually some sort of

veggie soup

> or salad that is loaded with cukes, tomatoes, carrots, onions, and

I do use

> cheese. I use a pretty varied mix of greens in it as well.

Dinner is at

> least 3 types of veggies and a slice of whole grain bread.

Snacks are

> usually more fruit, or popcorn. I have some sort of beans every

day since

> that's the only thing I know of veggie whise that has protein in

it. As

> for my bypass, I used to weigh 475 pounds, so, although it might

not have

> been the wisest decision, at the time, with my health issues, it

was the

> right decision for me and at 5'4. 475 is not acceptable. I also

lost

> another 400 pounds when my ex husband left me .. His alternative

was, if I

> had the surgery, He was leaving me. Even though the doctors had

only given

> me a few months to live due to a heart condition and COPD and I

needed a

> very rapid method to lose the weight. I think the stress of 25

years with

> him contributed to the weight gain, although after the bypass,

they found a

> tumor on my thyroid and ended up taking out all of my thyroid last

year.

> Luckily it was benign. Sometimes I wonder why they didn't find

it before

> the bypass.. I might not have needed the bypass if it had been

detected

> earlier .. But I'll never know now. I have been learning so much

in this

> group, it's wonderful.!!! Everyone here is so nice and so

informative and

> the recipes are wonderful. I've tried several and it is so nice to

see so

> much variety. I had envisioned a life of eating nothing but beans

and

> squash and salads for the rest of my life and I'm amazed at all

the things

> you can do and not eat the red stuff

> Thanks so much for your help.

>

> Marcia

>

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