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300% ?! Are you sure?, gold plated veg? how many carats in that carrot?

luckily we have not been so inflated ( although, it is curry tonight!), I think that it has been a bad year for farmers with the wet summer, a lot of crops rotting in the fields due to being unable to harvest, maybe something simular over there? maybe Bush has helped things along ( he is the devil incarnate after all is`nt he? )

How fares the price of ale?

 

The Valley Vegan....

go figureproduce prices here have just shot up 300%

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yup..

300%

1. the 4 hurricanes in florida ruined there crops

2. wet fall here in california totally mucked things up

3. high price of gas (comparatively fer us)

4. delays in planting of crops in mexico

is all conspiring together to make the east coast get crops ususally thatwould

stay here...

 

just wait til peak oil sets in....

 

 

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Nov 16, 2004 9:35 AM

 

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Hi Fraggle

 

> 1. the 4 hurricanes in florida ruined there crops

 

I'm slightly surprised that something that far away makes such a huge

difference... I mean, on a European scale, we're talking about something

like prices in England going up because of a few hurricanes in Russia!

 

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our food production is all linked

economy of scale

stuff produced in the midwest is shipped a thousand miles to be processed, then

sent to a warehouse in the other direction, then shipped out to stores somewhere

else...

most of the US farm produce comes from either florida er california(excluding

grains)..if something goes wrong in either place, prices shoot up within 2

weeks...

now..if you buy from local farmers markets, yer insulated..

the problem is the larger combines sell to whomever..so stuff is shipped all

over...

most of our local stuff is heading east...

 

 

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Nov 16, 2004 10:16 AM

 

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Oy! Well, I didn't notice any sharp increases at the store this

weekend, but it could just be a matter of time. Although the store I

frequent was a local farmer's market chain that was bought out by Whole

Foods. I notice they pull from locally grown goods whenever possible.

Maybe that's holding prices in check.

 

Laura

 

On Nov 16, 2004, at 12:57 PM, fraggle wrote:

 

> yup..

> 300%

> 1. the 4 hurricanes in florida ruined there crops

> 2. wet fall here in california totally mucked things up

> 3. high price of gas (comparatively fer us)

> 4. delays in planting of crops in mexico

> is all conspiring together to make the east coast get crops ususally

> thatwould stay here...

>

> just wait til peak oil sets in....

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my guess is stores that buy locally should do better

but....

you still should see prices go up some...

tomatoes here went from $.99 each to $3 here overnite...

thats wholesale...

dunno if it will bleed over into organics as well..

 

 

morgaana

Nov 16, 2004 1:29 PM

 

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Oy! Well, I didn't notice any sharp increases at the store this

weekend, but it could just be a matter of time. Although the store I

frequent was a local farmer's market chain that was bought out by Whole

Foods. I notice they pull from locally grown goods whenever possible.

Maybe that's holding prices in check.

 

Laura

 

On Nov 16, 2004, at 12:57 PM, fraggle wrote:

 

> yup..

> 300%

> 1. the 4 hurricanes in florida ruined there crops

> 2. wet fall here in california totally mucked things up

> 3. high price of gas (comparatively fer us)

> 4. delays in planting of crops in mexico

> is all conspiring together to make the east coast get crops ususally

> thatwould stay here...

>

> just wait til peak oil sets in....

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Hey, Laura. I also shop at a local Farmer's Market that was bought by Whole Foods. You aren't in the Atlanta area by chance, are you? morgaana wrote:

Oy! Well, I didn't notice any sharp increases at the store this weekend, but it could just be a matter of time. Although the store I frequent was a local farmer's market chain that was bought out by Whole Foods. I notice they pull from locally grown goods whenever possible. Maybe that's holding prices in check.LauraOn Nov 16, 2004, at 12:57 PM, fraggle wrote:> yup..> 300%> 1. the 4 hurricanes in florida ruined there crops> 2. wet fall here in california totally mucked things up> 3. high price of gas (comparatively fer us)> 4. delays in planting of crops in mexico> is all conspiring together to make the east coast get crops ususally > thatwould stay here...>> just wait til peak oil sets in....

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Hi peter,

 

I live in florida. I have a few orange and grapefruit trees in my backyard.

the hurracaines, one after the other knocked down almost all of the fruits. it was sad.

they were all green and not ready to eat. It was such a waste of food. there must've been two hundred small green ones on the floor. about five minutes from me, there is a humongous orange company named tropicana. I imagaine that their oranges must've fallen down too.

 

-anouk

 

 

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11/16/2004 1:48:59 PM

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Hi Fraggle> 1. the 4 hurricanes in florida ruined there cropsI'm slightly surprised that something that far away makes such a hugedifference... I mean, on a European scale, we're talking about somethinglike prices in England going up because of a few hurricanes in Russia!BBPeterTo send an email to -

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Hi Anouk,

Sorry to hear about the loss of your fruit, you must have been looking forward to them. I usually eat half a grapefruit most mornings, and most of them seem to have a Florida sticker on them.

 

The Valley Vegan....Taga Sickler <zurumato wrote:

 

Hi peter,

 

I live in florida. I have a few orange and grapefruit trees in my backyard.

the hurracaines, one after the other knocked down almost all of the fruits. it was sad.

they were all green and not ready to eat. It was such a waste of food. there must've been two hundred small green ones on the floor. about five minutes from me, there is a humongous orange company named tropicana. I imagaine that their oranges must've fallen down too.

 

-anouk

 

 

-

 

Peter

 

11/16/2004 1:48:59 PM

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Hi Fraggle> 1. the 4 hurricanes in florida ruined there cropsI'm slightly surprised that something that far away makes such a hugedifference... I mean, on a European scale, we're talking about somethinglike prices in England going up because of a few hurricanes in Russia!BBPeterTo send an email to - To send an email to - Peter H

 

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