Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 That's interesting to note this. You know the Hari Chrishna's? They eat dairy products but I read in one of their books that if the cow is treated with kindness and love she willingly gives her milk and it's OK. In India at that time, that may have been the situation. Sadly, it's not the case here in the US. : ( K In a message dated 1/10/05 9:33:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes: Message: 13 Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:21:12 -0500 "anouk sickler" <zurumatoRE: List Of Famous VegetariansThanks Rick,I was under the understanding that Mohanda Ghandi was a vegetarian, not a vegan.It is interesting to see so many athletes, anouk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Yeah!!! Not very likely. You might be treated well by your neighbours but you wouldn't be too pleased if they helped themselves to your milk if you were feeding, would you? Jo - lv2breathe Cc: Lv2breathe Monday, January 10, 2005 7:02 PM Re: Ghandi's vegetarianism That's interesting to note this. You know the Hari Chrishna's? They eat dairy products but I read in one of their books that if the cow is treated with kindness and love she willingly gives her milk and it's OK. In India at that time, that may have been the situation. Sadly, it's not the case here in the US. : ( K In a message dated 1/10/05 9:33:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes: Message: 13 Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:21:12 -0500 "anouk sickler" <zurumatoRE: List Of Famous VegetariansThanks Rick,I was under the understanding that Mohanda Ghandi was a vegetarian, not a vegan.It is interesting to see so many athletes, anouk To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Jo Me thinks you are quick to condemn before investigation. Have you ever read any of their books? Do you have idea of what they are saying? Before you do...it is wise to not assume it is false. There are many things in this universe we don't know about that we must stay open to. I am sorry to say this...but so many vegans are so attached on vegan dogma they can't bend. I don't think it's for us as individuals or a as movement to be this way. We must not automatically condemn something we know nothing about just because it does not fall in with our line of thinking. Or others just turn us off...for good reason. Kristina In a message dated 1/11/05 2:13:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes: Message: 20 Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:25:47 -0000 "Jo Cwazy" <heartworkRe: Re:Ghandi's vegetarianismI really can't believe that would be the case - and we really don't need milk past the breastfeeding stage. Cow's milk is totally wrong for us anyway.Jo - lv2breathe Cc: Lv2breathe Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:17 PM Re:Ghandi's vegetarianism No, of course not. It is a sad sight to see us taking away the milk that belongs to a calf. I don't have much personal experience from cows at all. The Hari Krishna's do...and according to the book...the cows did not have to be impregnated to give the milk because it was given with "love". The cow was treated kindly and wanted to give. That is not to say when I go to a Hari Krishna restaurant I assume all the dairy products are pure in this...I do not. I would not be surprised if the cows that supplied it were not happy cows. I am just saying that there may have been a time and place where this was true. It maybe very well true that a cow will produce milk for us if treated kindly and with love. Kristina In a message dated 1/10/05 5:52:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes: Message: 9 Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:35:14 -0000 "Jo Cwazy" <heartwork Re: Re: Ghandi's vegetarianism Yeah!!! Not very likely. You might be treated well by your neighbours but you wouldn't be too pleased if they helped themselves to your milk if you were feeding, would you? Jo To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Kristina Of course I have read (and own) some of 'their books' and meditate on a weekly basis with a Hare Krishna friend - so please do not preach to me. Just because I read something doesn't mean I believe it though. One doesn't need to believe any religious writing to know that stealing milk from a cow is wrong. Would you like to tell me which nutrient/s we need from milk that we cannot obtain in a more healthy form from a plant. Would you also please tell me the benefits of drinking milk rather than obstaining from it, and also the disadvantages to our bodies of drinking milk. Jo , lv2breathe@a... wrote: > > Jo > > Me thinks you are quick to condemn before investigation. > > Have you ever read any of their books? Do you have idea of what they are > saying? Before you do...it is wise to not assume it is false. > > There are many things in this universe we don't know about that we must stay > open to. > > I am sorry to say this...but so many vegans are so attached on vegan dogma > they can't bend. I don't think it's for us as individuals or a as movement to > be this way. We must not automatically condemn something we know nothing > about just because it does not fall in with our line of thinking. > > Or others just turn us off...for good reason. > > Kristina > > In a message dated 1/11/05 2:13:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > writes: > > Message: 20 > Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:25:47 -0000 > " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> > Re: Re:Ghandi's vegetarianism > > I really can't believe that would be the case - and we really don't need > milk past the breastfeeding stage. Cow's milk is totally wrong for us anyway. > > Jo > - > lv2breathe@a... > > Cc: Lv2breathe@a... > Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:17 PM > Re:Ghandi's vegetarianism > > > No, of course not. It is a sad sight to see us taking away the milk that > belongs to a calf. > > I don't have much personal experience from cows at all. The Hari Krishna's > do...and according to the book...the cows did not have to be impregnated to > give the milk because it was given with " love " . The cow was treated kindly > and wanted to give. > > That is not to say when I go to a Hari Krishna restaurant I assume all the > dairy products are pure in this...I do not. I would not be surprised if the > cows that supplied it were not happy cows. I am just saying that there may > have been a time and place where this was true. It maybe very well true that a > cow will produce milk for us if treated kindly and with love. > > > Kristina > > > In a message dated 1/10/05 5:52:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > writes: > Message: 9 > Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:35:14 -0000 > " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> > Re: Re: Ghandi's vegetarianism > > Yeah!!! Not very likely. You might be treated well by your neighbours but > you wouldn't be too pleased if they helped themselves to your milk if you > were feeding, would you? > > Jo > > > > To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hi Fraggle How long has your friend lactated? I presume he has been to a doctor to check he is okay. I must admit I'd worry about him qute a lot. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 his whole life.... heartwerk Jan 12, 2005 12:01 AM Re: Re: Ghandi's vegetarianism Hi FraggleHow long has your friend lactated? I presume he has been to a doctor to check he is okay. I must admit I'd worry about him qute a lot. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:> To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Fraggle How much milk does he make? Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 a few drops..... heartwerk Jan 12, 2005 5:31 AM Re: Ghandi's vegetarianism FraggleHow much milk does he make?Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:> To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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