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Everybody

 

When I brought up the Hare Krishna story that I had read....that their cows have produced milk without getting pregnant because they were treated kindly by humans...I truly thought it would be something you'd guys enjoy.

 

Instead...some of you got angry! How dare you say that cows may be happy giving milk!

 

Suspending disbelief for a moment...assuming the cows ARE happy and nothing is being taken away from the calves... should we not be glad? And isn't your sense of wonder stimulated with the idea that how we treat them changes things so much? It does for me...I thought it would for you.

 

I am sorry it did not. I am sorry some of you have no sense of wonder. I am sorry you can only find something wrong in this story. My mistake for thinking you are open.

 

Kristina

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, lv2breathe@a... wrote:

> Everybody

>

> When I brought up the Hare Krishna story that I had read....that their cows

> have produced milk without getting pregnant because they were treated kindly

> by humans...I truly thought it would be something you'd guys enjoy.

>

> Instead...some of you got angry! How dare you say that cows may be happy

> giving milk!

>

> Suspending disbelief for a moment...assuming the cows ARE happy and nothing

> is being taken away from the calves... should we not be glad? And isn't your

> sense of wonder stimulated with the idea that how we treat them changes

> things so much? It does for me...I thought it would for you.

>

> I am sorry it did not. I am sorry some of you have no sense of wonder. I am

> sorry you can only find something wrong in this story. My mistake for

> thinking you are open.

>

> Kristina

 

 

Hi Kristina:

 

I am from India originally. Cows were indeed treated very well traditionally. I

have seen it with my own eyes. My late Grandfather had cows in his farm.

However, these days it appears Dairy farming maybe comming into play due to

Westernization.

 

A lot of belief inregards to animals is very hard for people to understand. So,

giving time is essential. The intelligence of parrots for eg., is being

discovered by the Scientific Community daily. However, for the common person

this is very hard to understand/accept.

 

In a group like this there are several members with different opinions. Hence,

different views can be expected. However, still I don't forget that we are all

friends/vegans. If everyone had the same views and thought similar in all

respects life would be very boring. As they say variety is the spice of life.

 

Vijay

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Kristina,

 

I supposed that It could be true that cows once gave gifts of milk to

fellow humans.

however, since in the year 2005, cows are so exploited, for profit,

I feel very defensive about them.

 

I would like to think that I have an open mind, but I am currently a

lacting mom to my two year old and for me to give my precious gold

liquid to anyone, (other than my baby), that person would have to be

pretty darn special!

 

-anouk

 

> Instead...some of you got angry! How dare you say that cows may

be happy

> giving milk!

>

> Suspending disbelief for a moment...assuming the cows ARE happy

and nothing

> is being taken away from the calves... should we not be glad? And

isn't your

> sense of wonder stimulated with the idea that how we treat them

changes

> things so much? It does for me...I thought it would for you.

>

> I am sorry it did not. I am sorry some of you have no sense of

wonder. I am

> sorry you can only find something wrong in this story. My mistake

for

> thinking you are open.

>

> Kristina

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Kristina,

 

It is one thing to be open with ones

beliefs and quite another to naively believe that cows naturally lactate

without having given birth. Of course something is being taken away from the

calves.

 

Suspend disbelief and we can have a whole

raft of ideas. The problem is that Meat eaters tend to ‘suspend beliefs’

that animals feel pain etc

 

Andy

 

 

 

 

Andrew Barnes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lv2breathe [lv2breathe]

12 January 2005 18:13

 

Cc: Lv2breathe

Hare Krishna

story

 

 

 

Everybody

 

 

 

 

 

When I

brought up the Hare Krishna story that I had read....that their cows have

produced milk without getting pregnant because they were treated kindly by

humans...I truly thought it would be something you'd guys enjoy.

 

 

 

 

 

Instead...some

of you got angry! How dare you say that cows may be happy giving milk!

 

 

 

 

 

Suspending

disbelief for a moment...assuming the cows ARE

happy and nothing is being taken away from the calves... should we not be

glad? And isn't your sense of wonder stimulated with the idea that how we

treat them changes things so much? It does for me...I thought it would

for you.

 

 

 

 

 

I am

sorry it did not. I am sorry some of you have no sense of wonder. I am

sorry you can only find something wrong in this story. My mistake for

thinking you are open.

 

 

 

 

 

Kristina

 

 

 

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Anouk

 

I know very well how cows are treated right now. Very well.

 

I brought up the story to suggest that how we treat them can effect so much! That's all. It doesn't dismiss what is happening now...but maybe, for those who cannot or will not give it up...perhaps it could lead to some investigation and possibilities for happier cows.

 

Kristina

 

 

In a message dated 1/12/05 11:45:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes:

Kristina,I supposed that It could be true that cows once gave gifts of milk to fellow humans. however, since in the year 2005, cows are so exploited, for profit, I feel very defensive about them. I would like to think that I have an open mind, but I am currently a lacting mom to my two year old and for me to give my precious gold liquid to anyone, (other than my baby), that person would have to be pretty darn special!-anouk> Instead...some of you got angry! How dare you say that cows may be happy > giving milk!> > Suspending disbelief for a moment...assuming the cows ARE happy and nothing > is being taken away from the calves... should we not be glad? And isn't your > sense of wonder stimulated with the idea that how we treat them changes > things so much? It does for me...I thought it would for you.> > I am sorry it did not. I am sorry some of you have no sense of wonder. I am > sorry you can only find something wrong in this story. My mistake for > thinking you are open.> > Kristina

 

 

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