Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 What's the medical term for people who don't think twice about the crap they shovel in their mouth? What's it called when people refuse to see the direct correlation between eating healthy food and living a long and disease-free life? Interesting how they have a medical term to marginalize those that are working to prevent disease and a serious visit to the doctor. , lv2breathe@a... wrote: > > I have had this. I have had excessive fears about some foods and excessive > concern over the proper diet. > > Now...I don't think not eating animals is one of them...that is a real > values based choice...and important one. > > I think it becomes excessive when so much of ones life is taken in thinking > about food, nutrition what one is going to eat, guilt over having eating the > wrong foods...instead of living. > > Kristina > > In a message dated 1/12/05 11:45:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > writes: > > Message: 9 > Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:54:50 -0000 > " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...> > orthorexia nervosa > > > > I went to the supermarket, to shop with my cousin, > of course I rejected many foods, as this was not a health food store. > She said that I suffer from a disease called orthorexia. > " I'm telling you, you have it " > > I thought that she was joking at first, she's a nurse, but I've never > heard of this term. > but I looked it up and sure enough, Orthorexia is a person who > suffers from an obsession with healthy foods. > > there is a website, www.orthorexia.com. > she is a school nurse in the bronx. > her job is to administer ritalin to kids in school every morning. > anyway, I don't think I have this, I am just trying to analyze her > comment, as my thought is that she probably just has a problem with > veganism. > > -anouk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 , " Sarah Jane Buhr " <drmrgrl247> wrote: > > > What's the medical term for people who don't think twice about the > crap they shovel in their mouth? What's it called when people > refuse to see the direct correlation between eating healthy food and > living a long and disease-free life? Interesting how they have a > medical term to marginalize those that are working to prevent > disease and a serious visit to the doctor. From all this, the evidence is clear. Be careful with modern medicine. There is a lot of efforts to get one to feel guilty and then spend money on medical treatment. Treating a patient with sincerity is absent. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 oh, oh, I answered five or more questions, with yes. Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthyA new type of eating disorder is emerging where people are becoming obsessed with eating to improve their health. According to the Swiss Food Association, this new wave of nutritional obsession, known as ‘Orthorexia’ or ‘Orthorexia nervosa’, from the Greek “orthos” meaning right and correct, and “orexis” meaning appetite, is reaching worrying proportions.In a quest to cure themselves of a specific disorder, or simply just taking healthy eating to extremes, orthorexics develop their own increasingly specific food rules. Working out how to stick to their self-imposed dietary regimen takes up more and more of their time and they are compelled to plan meals several days ahead. They tend to take a ‘survival kit’ of their own food with them when they go out, as they cannot eat readily available foods for fear of fat, chemicals or whatever their particular phobia might be. Sticking to their regimen takes strong willpower and they feel self-righteous and superior to people who do not have such self-control. “Someone whose days are filled with eating tofu and quinoa biscuits can feel as saintly as if they had devoted their whole life to helping the homeless” states Dr. Steve Bratman, the man who initially described orthorexia back in 1997. By contrast, if the orthorexic breaks their health-food vows and succumbs to a craving for a ‘prohibited’ food, they feel guilty and defiled. This drives them to punish themselves with ever stricter dietary rules or abstinence. This behaviour is similar to those who suffer from anorexia or bulimia nervosa, except that anorexics and bulimics are concerned with the quantity of food consumed whereas orthorexics are concerned with the quality. In Europe we are now bombarded with information about what is ‘good’ and what is ‘bad’ for us all the time. Food scares and the organic movement have added to the complexity of decisions people need to make about the food they eat. Dr. Bettina Isenschmid, consultant for food disorders at L’Hôpital de l’Isle in Berne, believes that this focus on good and bad foods is problematic and fuels an increasingly neurotic relationship with food in modern western society. Health is now an important consideration for many Europeans when menu-planning . How do we get the right balance between eating healthily and healthy eating obsession? As with most aspects of diet, moderation is the key. Changes in food choices should be made gradually and in a way that fits in with a person’s tastes and lifestyle. Eating more healthily should have a positive effect on health without reducing the enjoyment of life or affecting relationships with others. To check if someone has healthy eating in perspective, or is becoming obsessed, try the ‘Bratman Test for orthorexia’. further information:The French Institute for Health Education: www.ineps.sante.frThe Swiss Food Association: www.sve.orgThe Health Food Junkie by Dr. Steve Bratman extracts: http://www.orthorexia.com/ The Bratman Test for Orthorexia Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet? Do you plan your meals several days ahead? Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the pleasure of eating it? Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet has increased? Have you become stricter with yourself lately? Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily? Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the ‘right’ foods Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you from family and friends? Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet? Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat healthily? Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more about food. Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eatinghealthy food.http://www.eufic.org/gb/food/pag/food42/food421.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 me too!! i answer 6 LOL...damn....i'm too healthy obsessed.... what is WRONG WITH ME!!!! LOL casey (haven't been around in a while) , " anouk sickler " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > oh, oh, I answered five or more questions, with yes. > > > > > Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthy > A new type of eating disorder is emerging where people are becoming obsessed with eating to improve their health. According to the Swiss Food Association, this new wave of nutritional obsession, known as ?Orthorexia? or ?Orthorexia nervosa?, from the Greek ?orthos? meaning right and correct, and ?orexis? meaning appetite, is reaching worrying proportions. > > In a quest to cure themselves of a specific disorder, or simply just taking healthy eating to extremes, orthorexics develop their own increasingly specific food rules. Working out how to stick to their self-imposed dietary regimen takes up more and more of their time and they are compelled to plan meals several days ahead. They tend to take a ?survival kit? of their own food with them when they go out, as they cannot eat readily available foods for fear of fat, chemicals or whatever their particular phobia might be. > Sticking to their regimen takes strong willpower and they feel self-righteous and superior to people who do not have such self-control. ?Someone whose days are filled with eating tofu and quinoa biscuits can feel as saintly as if they had devoted their whole life to helping the homeless? states Dr. Steve Bratman, the man who initially described orthorexia back in 1997. By contrast, if the orthorexic breaks their health-food vows and succumbs to a craving for a ?prohibited? food, they feel guilty and defiled. This drives them to punish themselves with ever stricter dietary rules or abstinence. This behaviour is similar to those who suffer from anorexia or bulimia nervosa, except that anorexics and bulimics are concerned with the quantity of food consumed whereas orthorexics are concerned with the quality. > In Europe we are now bombarded with information about what is ?good? and what is ?bad? for us all the time. Food scares and the organic movement have added to the complexity of decisions people need to make about the food they eat. Dr. Bettina Isenschmid, consultant for food disorders at L?Hôpital de l?Isle in Berne, believes that this focus on good and bad foods is problematic and fuels an increasingly neurotic relationship with food in modern western society. Health is now an important consideration for many Europeans when menu-planning . How do we get the right balance between eating healthily and healthy eating obsession? > As with most aspects of diet, moderation is the key. Changes in food choices should be made gradually and in a way that fits in with a person?s tastes and lifestyle. Eating more healthily should have a positive effect on health without reducing the enjoyment of life or affecting relationships with others. To check if someone has healthy eating in perspective, or is becoming obsessed, try the ?Bratman Test for orthorexia?. > further information: > The French Institute for Health Education: www.ineps.sante.fr > The Swiss Food Association: www.sve.org > The Health Food Junkie by Dr. Steve Bratman extracts: http://www.orthorexia.com/ > The Bratman Test for Orthorexia > Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet? > Do you plan your meals several days ahead? > Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the pleasure of eating it? > Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet has increased? > Have you become stricter with yourself lately? > Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily? > Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the ?right? foods > Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you from family and friends? > Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet? > Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat healthily? > Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more about food. > Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eating > healthy food. > > > > http://www.eufic.org/gb/food/pag/food42/food421.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 maybe it's ignorexia!? they're obsessed with ignorance!! lazyrexia? pillrexia? (u know...the magic pill to make u healthy after you've had yr 3rd heart attack... oh...the best was this past week... last friday went in to the doc..i had a bladder infection... so he gives me pills... takes my blood to check out my kidney and liver as well as my cholesterol level... i get a call back..my cholesterol is 119 so a few days before..a friend at work was complaining about needing MEDICATION cuz her cholesterol was too high...(over 200..like 220 i think)..ok.. i tell her the day after i get the call...what mine was..i was like...cuz i'm vegan...i don't EAT cholesterol...she tells me..she think that even if she didn't eat cholesterol she would still have high cholesterol..cuz it runs in her family... i gave her the one eyebrow lift...and walked away... i didn't even know what to say.... she's at LEAST 10 yrs older than me (i'm 23) and she doesn't even know what cholestrol is..) another good one... from a manager who's father is a doctor... she says....you can get cholesterol from an avocado...LOL oooh people casey , " Sarah Jane Buhr " <drmrgrl247> wrote: > > > What's the medical term for people who don't think twice about the > crap they shovel in their mouth? What's it called when people > refuse to see the direct correlation between eating healthy food and > living a long and disease-free life? Interesting how they have a > medical term to marginalize those that are working to prevent > disease and a serious visit to the doctor. > > > , lv2breathe@a... wrote: > > > > I have had this. I have had excessive fears about some foods and > excessive > > concern over the proper diet. > > > > Now...I don't think not eating animals is one of them...that is a > real > > values based choice...and important one. > > > > I think it becomes excessive when so much of ones life is taken in > thinking > > about food, nutrition what one is going to eat, guilt over having > eating the > > wrong foods...instead of living. > > > > Kristina > > > > In a message dated 1/12/05 11:45:06 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > > writes: > > > > Message: 9 > > Thu, 13 Jan 2005 04:54:50 -0000 > > " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...> > > orthorexia nervosa > > > > > > > > I went to the supermarket, to shop with my cousin, > > of course I rejected many foods, as this was not a health food > store. > > She said that I suffer from a disease called orthorexia. > > " I'm telling you, you have it " > > > > I thought that she was joking at first, she's a nurse, but I've > never > > heard of this term. > > but I looked it up and sure enough, Orthorexia is a person who > > suffers from an obsession with healthy foods. > > > > there is a website, www.orthorexia.com. > > she is a school nurse in the bronx. > > her job is to administer ritalin to kids in school every morning. > > anyway, I don't think I have this, I am just trying to analyze > her > > comment, as my thought is that she probably just has a problem > with > > veganism. > > > > -anouk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 hmm actually 7 casey , " veganmunkee " <veganmunkee> wrote: > > me too!! i answer 6 LOL...damn....i'm too healthy obsessed.... what is > WRONG WITH ME!!!! LOL > > casey (haven't been around in a while) > > > , " anouk sickler " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > > oh, oh, I answered five or more questions, with yes. > > > > > > > > > > Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthy > > A new type of eating disorder is emerging where people are becoming > obsessed with eating to improve their health. According to the Swiss > Food Association, this new wave of nutritional obsession, known as > ?Orthorexia? or ?Orthorexia nervosa?, from the Greek ?orthos? meaning > right and correct, and ?orexis? meaning appetite, is reaching worrying > proportions. > > > > In a quest to cure themselves of a specific disorder, or simply just > taking healthy eating to extremes, orthorexics develop their own > increasingly specific food rules. Working out how to stick to their > self-imposed dietary regimen takes up more and more of their time and > they are compelled to plan meals several days ahead. They tend to take > a ?survival kit? of their own food with them when they go out, as they > cannot eat readily available foods for fear of fat, chemicals or > whatever their particular phobia might be. > > Sticking to their regimen takes strong willpower and they feel > self-righteous and superior to people who do not have such > self-control. ?Someone whose days are filled with eating tofu and > quinoa biscuits can feel as saintly as if they had devoted their whole > life to helping the homeless? states Dr. Steve Bratman, the man who > initially described orthorexia back in 1997. By contrast, if the > orthorexic breaks their health-food vows and succumbs to a craving for > a ?prohibited? food, they feel guilty and defiled. This drives them to > punish themselves with ever stricter dietary rules or abstinence. This > behaviour is similar to those who suffer from anorexia or bulimia > nervosa, except that anorexics and bulimics are concerned with the > quantity of food consumed whereas orthorexics are concerned with the > quality. > > In Europe we are now bombarded with information about what is ?good? > and what is ?bad? for us all the time. Food scares and the organic > movement have added to the complexity of decisions people need to make > about the food they eat. Dr. Bettina Isenschmid, consultant for food > disorders at L?Hôpital de l?Isle in Berne, believes that this focus on > good and bad foods is problematic and fuels an increasingly neurotic > relationship with food in modern western society. Health is now an > important consideration for many Europeans when menu-planning . How do > we get the right balance between eating healthily and healthy eating > obsession? > > As with most aspects of diet, moderation is the key. Changes in food > choices should be made gradually and in a way that fits in with a > person?s tastes and lifestyle. Eating more healthily should have a > positive effect on health without reducing the enjoyment of life or > affecting relationships with others. To check if someone has healthy > eating in perspective, or is becoming obsessed, try the ?Bratman Test > for orthorexia?. > > further information: > > The French Institute for Health Education: www.ineps.sante.fr > > The Swiss Food Association: www.sve.org > > The Health Food Junkie by Dr. Steve Bratman extracts: > http://www.orthorexia.com/ > > The Bratman Test for Orthorexia > > Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet? > > Do you plan your meals several days ahead? > > Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the > pleasure of eating it? > > Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet > has increased? > > Have you become stricter with yourself lately? > > Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily? > > Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the > ?right? foods > > Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you > from family and friends? > > Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet? > > Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat > healthily? > > Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more > about food. > > Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eating > > healthy food. > > > > > > > > http://www.eufic.org/gb/food/pag/food42/food421.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 This really makes me laugh. In the past everyone had to plan their meals several days ahead - 1) because if you don't have too much money you have to work out what you can buy for the meals for the week - 2) at one time people didn't have fridges (I know you had them in US decades before it was normal in the UK!), so you had to plan to use all your fresh ingredients so they didn't waste. Surely it is wise to plan ahead now so that you have the right ingredients to prepare meals with, so that don't waste anything, and so that you have meals that cook in the times available - e.g. pasta when you have to dash out soon after getting in and a root veggie casserole and dumplings when you have an evening in. What is strange about taking a supply of healthy food with you if you think it is going to be difficult to get healthy food where you are going. Since when is it an illness to plan, and to want to have healthy food - it used to be called 'wisdom'. Secondly - who is it worrying - I bet it annoys the establishment that it is becoming difficult to foist a load of rubbish off as food for the people. Jo > Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthy > A new type of eating disorder is emerging where people are becoming obsessed with eating to improve their health. According to the Swiss Food Association, this new wave of nutritional obsession, known as ?Orthorexia? or ?Orthorexia nervosa?, from the Greek ?orthos? meaning right and correct, and ?orexis? meaning appetite, is reaching worrying proportions. > > In a quest to cure themselves of a specific disorder, or simply just taking healthy eating to extremes, orthorexics develop their own increasingly specific food rules. Working out how to stick to their self-imposed dietary regimen takes up more and more of their time and they are compelled to plan meals several days ahead. They tend to take a ?survival kit? of their own food with them when they go out, as they cannot eat readily available foods for fear of fat, chemicals or whatever their particular phobia might be. > Sticking to their regimen takes strong willpower and they feel self-righteous and superior to people who do not have such self-control. ?Someone whose days are filled with eating tofu and quinoa biscuits can feel as saintly as if they had devoted their whole life to helping the homeless? states Dr. Steve Bratman, the man who initially described orthorexia back in 1997. By contrast, if the orthorexic breaks their health-food vows and succumbs to a craving for a ?prohibited? food, they feel guilty and defiled. This drives them to punish themselves with ever stricter dietary rules or abstinence. This behaviour is similar to those who suffer from anorexia or bulimia nervosa, except that anorexics and bulimics are concerned with the quantity of food consumed whereas orthorexics are concerned with the quality. > In Europe we are now bombarded with information about what is ?good? and what is ?bad? for us all the time. Food scares and the organic movement have added to the complexity of decisions people need to make about the food they eat. Dr. Bettina Isenschmid, consultant for food disorders at L?Hôpital de l?Isle in Berne, believes that this focus on good and bad foods is problematic and fuels an increasingly neurotic relationship with food in modern western society. Health is now an important consideration for many Europeans when menu-planning . How do we get the right balance between eating healthily and healthy eating obsession? > As with most aspects of diet, moderation is the key. Changes in food choices should be made gradually and in a way that fits in with a person?s tastes and lifestyle. Eating more healthily should have a positive effect on health without reducing the enjoyment of life or affecting relationships with others. To check if someone has healthy eating in perspective, or is becoming obsessed, try the ?Bratman Test for orthorexia?. > further information: > The French Institute for Health Education: www.ineps.sante.fr > The Swiss Food Association: www.sve.org > The Health Food Junkie by Dr. Steve Bratman extracts: http://www.orthorexia.com/ > The Bratman Test for Orthorexia > Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet? > Do you plan your meals several days ahead? > Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the pleasure of eating it? > Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet has increased? > Have you become stricter with yourself lately? > Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily? > Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the ?right? foods > Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you from family and friends? > Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet? > Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat healthily? > Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more about food. > Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eating > healthy food. > > > > http://www.eufic.org/gb/food/pag/food42/food421.htm To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Hi Casey He diet must be bad to have high cholesterol at 33ish! I'm glad yours is good - a good advert for vegans. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 i can tell u why her cholesterol is high....she's the first person to ask EVERY morning i work...so where are we getting breakfast from...and it's always...a big greasy egg cheese and bac sand with some fattening fried up homefries...mmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm tasty treat for a blown up heart as well casey , " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote: > Hi Casey > > He diet must be bad to have high cholesterol at 33ish! I'm glad yours is > good - a good advert for vegans. > > Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 That is a ridiculous test. Pretty much everyone who has made a commitment to weightloss or a new years resolution-and is sticking with it-has orthorexia. My question is who funded this study? , " veganmunkee " <veganmunkee> wrote: > > hmm actually 7 > > casey > > > > > , " veganmunkee " <veganmunkee> wrote: > > > > me too!! i answer 6 LOL...damn....i'm too healthy obsessed.... what is > > WRONG WITH ME!!!! LOL > > > > casey (haven't been around in a while) > > > > > > , " anouk sickler " <zurumato@e...> > wrote: > > > oh, oh, I answered five or more questions, with yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Orthorexia nervosa - when healthy eating is no longer healthy > > > A new type of eating disorder is emerging where people are becoming > > obsessed with eating to improve their health. According to the Swiss > > Food Association, this new wave of nutritional obsession, known as > > ?Orthorexia? or ?Orthorexia nervosa?, from the Greek ?orthos? meaning > > right and correct, and ?orexis? meaning appetite, is reaching worrying > > proportions. > > > > > > In a quest to cure themselves of a specific disorder, or simply just > > taking healthy eating to extremes, orthorexics develop their own > > increasingly specific food rules. Working out how to stick to their > > self-imposed dietary regimen takes up more and more of their time and > > they are compelled to plan meals several days ahead. They tend to take > > a ?survival kit? of their own food with them when they go out, as they > > cannot eat readily available foods for fear of fat, chemicals or > > whatever their particular phobia might be. > > > Sticking to their regimen takes strong willpower and they feel > > self-righteous and superior to people who do not have such > > self-control. ?Someone whose days are filled with eating tofu and > > quinoa biscuits can feel as saintly as if they had devoted their whole > > life to helping the homeless? states Dr. Steve Bratman, the man who > > initially described orthorexia back in 1997. By contrast, if the > > orthorexic breaks their health-food vows and succumbs to a craving for > > a ?prohibited? food, they feel guilty and defiled. This drives them to > > punish themselves with ever stricter dietary rules or abstinence. This > > behaviour is similar to those who suffer from anorexia or bulimia > > nervosa, except that anorexics and bulimics are concerned with the > > quantity of food consumed whereas orthorexics are concerned with the > > quality. > > > In Europe we are now bombarded with information about what is ? good? > > and what is ?bad? for us all the time. Food scares and the organic > > movement have added to the complexity of decisions people need to make > > about the food they eat. Dr. Bettina Isenschmid, consultant for food > > disorders at L?Hôpital de l?Isle in Berne, believes that this focus on > > good and bad foods is problematic and fuels an increasingly neurotic > > relationship with food in modern western society. Health is now an > > important consideration for many Europeans when menu-planning . How do > > we get the right balance between eating healthily and healthy eating > > obsession? > > > As with most aspects of diet, moderation is the key. Changes in food > > choices should be made gradually and in a way that fits in with a > > person?s tastes and lifestyle. Eating more healthily should have a > > positive effect on health without reducing the enjoyment of life or > > affecting relationships with others. To check if someone has healthy > > eating in perspective, or is becoming obsessed, try the ?Bratman Test > > for orthorexia?. > > > further information: > > > The French Institute for Health Education: www.ineps.sante.fr > > > The Swiss Food Association: www.sve.org > > > The Health Food Junkie by Dr. Steve Bratman extracts: > > http://www.orthorexia.com/ > > > The Bratman Test for Orthorexia > > > Do you spend more than 3 hours a day thinking about your diet? > > > Do you plan your meals several days ahead? > > > Is the nutritional value of your meal more important than the > > pleasure of eating it? > > > Has the quality of your life decreased as the quality of your diet > > has increased? > > > Have you become stricter with yourself lately? > > > Does your self-esteem get a boost from eating healthily? > > > Have you given up foods you used to enjoy in order to eat the > > ?right? foods > > > Does your diet make it difficult for you to eat out, distancing you > > from family and friends? > > > Do you feel guilty when you stray from your diet? > > > Do you feel at peace with yourself and in total control when you eat > > healthily? > > > Yes to 4 or 5 of the above questions means it is time to relax more > > about food. > > > Yes to all of them means a full-blown obsession with eating > > > healthy food. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.eufic.org/gb/food/pag/food42/food421.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 have folks like that at my work(well..at the moment anyways..)(stoopid consolidation) everyone else is really great about vegetarianism/veganny bits..except fer a couple..and they are the ..umm..rather large folks, who eat mcdeathburger everyday..(and fer some reason get an hour and half fer lunhc everyday as well...) veganmunkee Jan 16, 2005 7:42 PM Re: Orthorexia i can tell u why her cholesterol is high....she's the first person toask EVERY morning i work...so where are we getting breakfastfrom...and it's always...a big greasy egg cheese and bac sand withsome fattening fried up homefries...mmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmm tasty treatfor a blown up heart as well casey , "Jo Cwazy" <heartwork@c...> wrote:> Hi Casey> > He diet must be bad to have high cholesterol at 33ish! I'm gladyours is> good - a good advert for vegans.> > JoTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Probably some pharmaceutical company who can sell drugs to 'cure' the disease. Jo That is a ridiculous test. Pretty much everyone who has made a commitment to weightloss or a new years resolution-and is sticking with it-has orthorexia. My question is who funded this study? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 > > That is a ridiculous test. Pretty much everyone who has made a > commitment to weightloss or a new years resolution-and is sticking > with it-has orthorexia. My question is who funded this study? Everything is taken to extremes in Modern society. The celebrities all try to maintain perfect figure, eat little and almost become skeletal. Hence, such medical terms. As, I said the Jains have a History of 9000 years. They very rarely eat out. When they do they are extremely careful. Giving a health conscious Vegan labels when he is choosy about what he eats out is just incorrect. Most all Vegetarians in India are careful about what they eat when they go out. This is traditional for several Centuries. Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 fraggle wrote: >everyone else is really great about vegetarianism/veganny >bits..except fer a couple..and they are the ..umm..rather large >folks, who eat mcdeathburger everyday..(and fer some reason get an >hour and half fer lunhc everyday as well... I know that it's common to equate veganism with thinness, and thinness with healthfulness, but I just want to mention that there *are* healthy, fat, vegans. I have been a vegetarian all my life, and a vegan for two of the last five years, and I'm healthier than most of my doctors. I'm also fat. I know other fat vegetarians, as well, and I get weary of having to remind people that being a vegan doesn't guarantee that you will be thin -- and more importantly to me, being thin doesn't make you better than a fat person. serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 i'm not exactly svelte myself.... but..there is a definate correlation with the diet of most americans and obesity serene Jan 17, 2005 5:05 PM Re: Re: Orthorexia fraggle wrote:>everyone else is really great about vegetarianism/veganny>bits..except fer a couple..and they are the ..umm..rather large>folks, who eat mcdeathburger everyday..(and fer some reason get an>hour and half fer lunhc everyday as well...I know that it's common to equate veganism with thinness, and thinness with healthfulness, but I just want to mention that there *are* healthy, fat, vegans. I have been a vegetarian all my life, and a vegan for two of the last five years, and I'm healthier than most of my doctors. I'm also fat. I know other fat vegetarians, as well, and I get weary of having to remind people that being a vegan doesn't guarantee that you will be thin -- and more importantly to me, being thin doesn't make you better than a fat person.sereneTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 fraggle wrote: >Im not exactly svelte myself.... >but..there is a definate correlation with the diet of most americans >and obesity I'm not sure you're understanding my objection to the posts in this thread. 1) Some people are fat and healthy; some people are fat and unhealthy 2) Some people are thin and healthy; thin and unhealthy 3) Some people eat well and are fat; some people eat well and are thin and most importantly to me: 4) Even if someone is fat and unhealthy, that doesn't make it okay to ridicule them serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 yer point is takin.. nor is it ok to ridicule someone u don't understand er u don't understand their beliefs... serene Jan 18, 2005 12:13 PM Re: Re: Orthorexia fraggle wrote:>Im not exactly svelte myself....>but..there is a definate correlation with the diet of most americans >and obesityI'm not sure you're understanding my objection to the posts in this thread.1) Some people are fat and healthy; some people are fat and unhealthy2) Some people are thin and healthy; thin and unhealthy3) Some people eat well and are fat; some people eat well and are thinand most importantly to me:4) Even if someone is fat and unhealthy, that doesn't make it okay to ridicule themsereneTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 fraggle wrote: yer point is takin.. nor is it ok to ridicule someone u don't understand er u don't understand their beliefs... Have I ridiculed anyone? serene, just checking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 no..not you silly confusing internet i was commentin on the original point i made and..oh..nevermind.... want a cookie as a peace gesture? just made em... took day off from work(might as well use my sick time up) serene Jan 18, 2005 12:39 PM Re: Re: Orthorexia fraggle wrote:yer point is takin..nor is it ok to ridicule someone u don't understand er u don't understand their beliefs...Have I ridiculed anyone?serene, just checkingTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 fraggle wrote: >no..not you >silly confusing internet >i was commentin on the original point i made and..oh..nevermind.... >want a cookie as a peace gesture? >just made em... >took day off from work(might as well use my sick time up) Oh, I wasn't upset or anything. But I'll take the cookie anyway. Thanks! serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 here's my bit... heavy people don't bother me...the over heavy people that breath way too heavy and tell u that u are too skinny and need to eat osme meat are the people that bother me... or the heavy people that i tell hey i lost some more weight cuz i stopped eating junk food and now i need to buy a new pair of pants...tell me...well no u don't just eat more cheese... those people bother me... they can't just be like...hey that's awesome veganism sound like a great idea... and you look healthier too...no instead they have to make an annoying remark about how yr gonna die cuz u don't eat enough of dead animals and their milk products.. then they go out and bring back wendy's triple burgers with biggie fries... and complain about...how they really need to lose weight... UGH.. but yeah i agree def heavy people can be healthy....i'm a chubby vegan... i'd like to lose weight...and i'm trying (just signed up for the gym today) but not cuz i think being thin will make me better than anyone... i could care less about them....being thinner will make me feel better about myself..have more confidence in myself...and feel better about the way i look.....just like not harming animals makes me feel better about myself... casey , serene <serene@s...> wrote: > > fraggle wrote: > > >everyone else is really great about vegetarianism/veganny > >bits..except fer a couple..and they are the ..umm..rather large > >folks, who eat mcdeathburger everyday..(and fer some reason get an > >hour and half fer lunhc everyday as well... > > I know that it's common to equate veganism with thinness, and > thinness with healthfulness, but I just want to mention that there > *are* healthy, fat, vegans. I have been a vegetarian all my life, > and a vegan for two of the last five years, and I'm healthier than > most of my doctors. I'm also fat. I know other fat vegetarians, as > well, and I get weary of having to remind people that being a vegan > doesn't guarantee that you will be thin -- and more importantly to > me, being thin doesn't make you better than a fat person. > > serene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 i think he meant people other than vegans making fun of vegans and their beliefs...or vegans making fun of non vegans.. it just annoys me when people complain how unhealthy they are...but no steps to do anything about it... what REALLY annoys me..are the(getting back to cholesterol) those damn high cholesterol pills... god like someone would die if they went veggie... stupid docs and their pills...why not tell someone... look...either meat 2x a week or non at all!! lol casey , serene <serene@s...> wrote: > fraggle wrote: > > > > > yer point is takin.. > > nor is it ok to ridicule someone u don't understand er u don't > understand their beliefs... > > > Have I ridiculed anyone? > > serene, just checking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 ooh ohh ohh i have off tomorrow!! i'm making " raw tortillas " from mmm mm fresh corn...as well as veggie fajitas, fresh pico de gallo, and tofu sour cream...oh i LOVE you mexican food...or er tex mex...which ever it is...it's delish!! casey ps- let u know how everything turns out...i'll post the recipes if i think they rock! , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 did you hear about some guy at texas A & M who is tryin to create a tortilla that can sit on the shelf fer 4 months? sheesh..hate to see wot they are gonna put in that veganmunkee Jan 18, 2005 5:11 PM Re: Orthorexia ooh ohh ohh i have off tomorrow!!i'm making "raw tortillas" from mmm mm fresh corn...as well as veggiefajitas, fresh pico de gallo, and tofu sour cream...oh i LOVE youmexican food...or er tex mex...which ever it is...it's delish!! caseyps- let u know how everything turns out...i'll post the recipes if ithink they rock! , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:> To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 That would definitely be best Casey. Jo stupid docs and their pills...why not tell someone... > look...either meat 2x a week or non at all!! lol > > casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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