Eating out and cooking

March 11, 2005

Hey Jo

We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the Castle Grounds

from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe called The

Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a small

group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two vegan

options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes it extra

nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which is good

value.

I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the cooking, and

he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I was ten

years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must admit that I

don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

Do you eat out often?

BB

Jo

-

<Kimberley1

Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

Re: Re: Intro and Question

>

> Hey Jo,

>

> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with you ,I like

> to eat out as much as possible,

> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

>

> Jo

>

> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will save cooking

one

> >meal.

> >

> >BB

> >Jo

> > -

> > fraggle

> >

> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

> >

> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

> >

> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer a bit?

> > new topic

> > quick!

> > ummmm...

> > damn...can't think of anything

> > pooburgers....

> >

> > heartwerk

> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

> >

> > Re: Intro and Question

> >

> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having children. I know

>

> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion because her

> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had created.

> >

> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think it is a form of

> > denial.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > To send an email to -

> >

March 12, 2005

Hi,

Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home looking

after two youmg children and I

normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually meet-up with

some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London. During

the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its just so nice

to

have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a nice veggie

guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked food (my ex

is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan man like

yours!

Jo

>-- Original Message --

>

> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000

> Eating out and cooking

>

><html><body>

>

><tt>

>Hey Jo

>

>We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the Castle Grounds

>from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe called

>The

>Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a small

>group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two vegan

>options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes

>it extra

>nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which is good

>value.

>

>I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the cooking,

>and

>he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I was

>ten

>years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must admit

>that I

>don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

>

>Do you eat out often?

>

>BB

>Jo

>-

><Kimberley1

>

>Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

>Re: Re: Intro and Question

>

>>

>> Hey Jo,

>>

>> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with you ,I

>like

>> to eat out as much as possible,

>> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

>>

>> Jo

>>

>> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will save cooking

>one

>> >meal.

>> >

>> >BB

>> >Jo

>> > -

>> > fraggle

>> >

>> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

>> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

>> >

>> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

>> >

>> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer a

>bit?

>> > new topic

>> > quick!

>> > ummmm...

>> > damn...can't think of anything

>> > pooburgers....

>> >

>> >

>> > heartwerk

>> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

>> >

>> > Re: Intro and Question

>> >

>> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having children.

>I know

>>

>> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion because

>her

>> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had created.

>> >

>> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think

>it is a form of

>> > denial.

>> >

>> > Jo

>> >

>> > To send an email to -

>> >

>> >

March 12, 2005

Hi Jo

I know what you mean about it being a luxury to eat out when you have young

children. I think the most we could ever afford, was tea and cakes

occasionally when we went to the seaside. Now we are older we can fit in

more meals out, but still look on it as a treat.

I did most of the cooking when our family was growing up, and before that as

my mother was disabled with rheumatoid arthritis, so I was pleased when

Colin said he would take over the cooking. There's always so much to cook

when you have a young family, and you cannot get lazy and think 'I'll just

have beans on toast for dinner'. Are your children easy to feed or is there

a lot that they don't like to eat?

I have a couple of books on raw food (ism?), and know a couple of people who

follow that diet. I must admit to liking warm food most of the time, and

even drink hot water when other people have it chilled!

BB

Jo

Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home looking

after two youmg children and I

normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually meet-up with

some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London. During

the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its just so nice

to

have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a nice

veggie

guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked food (my ex

is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan man like

yours!

Jo

>-- Original Message --

>

> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000

> Eating out and cooking

>

><html><body>

>

><tt>

>Hey Jo

>

>We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the Castle

Grounds

>from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe called

>The

>Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a small

>group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two vegan

>options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes

>it extra

>nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which is

good

>value.

>

>I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the cooking,

>and

>he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I was

>ten

>years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must admit

>that I

>don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

>

>Do you eat out often?

>

>BB

>Jo

>-

><Kimberley1

>

>Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

>Re: Re: Intro and Question

>

>>

>> Hey Jo,

>>

>> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with you ,I

>like

>> to eat out as much as possible,

>> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

>>

>> Jo

>>

>> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will save

cooking

>one

>> >meal.

>> >

>> >BB

>> >Jo

>> > -

>> > fraggle

>> >

>> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

>> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

>> >

>> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

>> >

>> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer a

>bit?

>> > new topic

>> > quick!

>> > ummmm...

>> > damn...can't think of anything

>> > pooburgers....

>> >

>> >

>> > heartwerk

>> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

>> >

>> > Re: Intro and Question

>> >

>> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having children.

>I know

>>

>> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion because

>her

>> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had created.

>> >

>> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think

>it is a form of

>> > denial.

>> >

>> > Jo

>> >

>> > To send an email to

-

>> >

>> >

March 12, 2005

Hi Jo,

Its not really a luxury in monetary terms its a luxury in the terms of not

having to do any washingup or housework!

I like to eat out at least once a week so I can get a break from the housework

and my ex looks after the children at weekends so I can also have some " me "

time and normally go out with my friends. I look after my children alll

week and look forward to the weekend. I haven't been following the discussion

about whether or not to have kids but I've read a few and for me although

I've always wanted children it has been a big shock to the system having

two children in a short space of two years(second one unplanned) and I've

had to change my lifestyle from independant freespirited " social butterfly "

to stay at home mother of two! I found it very difficult in the beggining

having two young children but its getting better now as they're getting older

I wouldn't change anything and i've learnt a lot and I've got strong opinions

about child rearing. I think if you plan to have a child then you have to

plan to stay at at home with that child for at least the first few years

of his or hers life and also you should be prepared to breastfeed for at

least 2/3 years.If you're not prepared to do this then you shouldn't even

think about having children. I feel very passionately about this and don't

understand why some people have kids if they're not prepared to breastfeed

or want go back to work etc?

Its a big commitment and I'm still breastfeeding my daughter,( she never

has a babysitter) and my kids eat very well,- wholefood vegan and no junkfood.

I crave my freedom and independance sometimes but my children come first

and thats the sacrifice you make if you want to raise your kids properly

and not hand them over to babysitters and childminders like a lot of women

think they can do!

Jo

>-- Original Message --

>

> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:16:39 -0000

>Re: Eating out and cooking

>

><html><body>

>

><tt>

>Hi Jo

>

>I know what you mean about it being a luxury to eat out when you have young

>children. I think the most we could ever afford, was tea and cakes

>occasionally when we went to the seaside. Now we are older we can fit

>in

>more meals out, but still look on it as a treat.

>

>I did most of the cooking when our family was growing up, and before that

>as

>my mother was disabled with rheumatoid arthritis, so I was pleased when

>Colin said he would take over the cooking. There's always so much to

>cook

>when you have a young family, and you cannot get lazy and think 'I'll just

>have beans on toast for dinner'. Are your children easy to feed or

>is there

>a lot that they don't like to eat?

>

>I have a couple of books on raw food (ism?), and know a couple of people

>who

>follow that diet. I must admit to liking warm food most of the time,

>and

>even drink hot water when other people have it chilled!

>

>BB

>Jo

>

>Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home looking

>after two youmg children and I

>normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually meet-up with

>some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London. During

>the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its just so

nice

>to

>have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a nice

>veggie

>guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked food (my

ex

>is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan man like

>yours!

>

>Jo

>

>>-- Original Message --

>>

>> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000

>> Eating out and cooking

>>

>>

>><html><body>

>>

>><tt>

>>Hey Jo

>>

>>We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the Castle

>Grounds

>>from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe called

>>The

>>Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a small

>>group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two

vegan

>>options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes

>>it extra

>>nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which is

>good

>>value.

>>

>>I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the cooking,

>>and

>>he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I was

>>ten

>>years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must admit

>>that I

>>don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

>>

>>Do you eat out often?

>>

>>BB

>>Jo

>>-

>><Kimberley1

>>

>>Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

>>Re: Re: Intro and Question

>>

>>>

>>> Hey Jo,

>>>

>>> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with you

>,I

>>like

>>> to eat out as much as possible,

>>> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

>>>

>>> Jo

>>>

>>> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will save

>cooking

>>one

>>> >meal.

>>> >

>>> >BB

>>> >Jo

>>> > -

>>> > fraggle

>>> >

>>> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

>>> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

>>> >

>>> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

>>> >

>>> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer a

>>bit?

>>> > new topic

>>> > quick!

>>> > ummmm...

>>> > damn...can't think of anything

>>> > pooburgers....

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > heartwerk

>>> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

>>> >

>>> > Re: Intro and Question

>>> >

>>> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having children.

>>I know

>>>

>>> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion because

>>her

>>> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had created.

>>> >

>>> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think

>>it is a form of

>>> > denial.

>>> >

>>> > Jo

>>> >

>>> > To send an email to

>-

>>> >

>>> >

March 12, 2005

Housework is such a nuisance. I often wonder how we make so much mess. As

for the dust - where does it come from! I think when you have young

children it is necessary to keep everywhere clean. Luckily, later on you

are okay if you clean and tidy once every so often.

Jo

-

<Kimberley1

Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:51 PM

Re: Eating out and cooking

Hi Jo,

Its not really a luxury in monetary terms its a luxury in the terms of not

having to do any washingup or housework!

I like to eat out at least once a week so I can get a break from the

housework

and my ex looks after the children at weekends so I can also have some " me "

time and normally go out with my friends. I look after my children alll

week and look forward to the weekend. I haven't been following the

discussion

about whether or not to have kids but I've read a few and for me although

I've always wanted children it has been a big shock to the system having

two children in a short space of two years(second one unplanned) and I've

had to change my lifestyle from independant freespirited " social butterfly "

to stay at home mother of two! I found it very difficult in the beggining

having two young children but its getting better now as they're getting

older

I wouldn't change anything and i've learnt a lot and I've got strong

opinions

about child rearing. I think if you plan to have a child then you have to

plan to stay at at home with that child for at least the first few years

of his or hers life and also you should be prepared to breastfeed for at

least 2/3 years.If you're not prepared to do this then you shouldn't even

think about having children. I feel very passionately about this and don't

understand why some people have kids if they're not prepared to breastfeed

or want go back to work etc?

Its a big commitment and I'm still breastfeeding my daughter,( she never

has a babysitter) and my kids eat very well,- wholefood vegan and no

junkfood.

I crave my freedom and independance sometimes but my children come first

and thats the sacrifice you make if you want to raise your kids properly

and not hand them over to babysitters and childminders like a lot of women

think they can do!

Jo

>-- Original Message --

>

> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:16:39 -0000

>Re: Eating out and cooking

>

><html><body>

>

><tt>

>Hi Jo

>

>I know what you mean about it being a luxury to eat out when you have

young

>children. I think the most we could ever afford, was tea and cakes

>occasionally when we went to the seaside. Now we are older we can fit

>in

>more meals out, but still look on it as a treat.

>

>I did most of the cooking when our family was growing up, and before that

>as

>my mother was disabled with rheumatoid arthritis, so I was pleased when

>Colin said he would take over the cooking. There's always so much to

>cook

>when you have a young family, and you cannot get lazy and think 'I'll

just

>have beans on toast for dinner'. Are your children easy to feed or

>is there

>a lot that they don't like to eat?

>

>I have a couple of books on raw food (ism?), and know a couple of people

>who

>follow that diet. I must admit to liking warm food most of the time,

>and

>even drink hot water when other people have it chilled!

>

>BB

>Jo

>

>Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home

looking

>after two youmg children and I

>normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually meet-up

with

>some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London. During

>the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its just so

nice

>to

>have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a nice

>veggie

>guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked food (my

ex

>is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan man

like

>yours!

>

>Jo

>

>>-- Original Message --

>>

>> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000

>> Eating out and cooking

>>

>>

>><html><body>

>>

>><tt>

>>Hey Jo

>>

>>We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the Castle

>Grounds

>>from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe called

>>The

>>Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a

small

>>group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two

vegan

>>options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes

>>it extra

>>nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which is

>good

>>value.

>>

>>I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the

cooking,

>>and

>>he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I was

>>ten

>>years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must admit

>>that I

>>don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

>>

>>Do you eat out often?

>>

>>BB

>>Jo

>>-

>><Kimberley1

>>

>>Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

>>Re: Re: Intro and Question

>>

>>>

>>> Hey Jo,

>>>

>>> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with you

>,I

>>like

>>> to eat out as much as possible,

>>> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

>>>

>>> Jo

>>>

>>> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will save

>cooking

>>one

>>> >meal.

>>> >

>>> >BB

>>> >Jo

>>> > -

>>> > fraggle

>>> >

>>> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

>>> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

>>> >

>>> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

>>> >

>>> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer a

>>bit?

>>> > new topic

>>> > quick!

>>> > ummmm...

>>> > damn...can't think of anything

>>> > pooburgers....

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > heartwerk

>>> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

>>> >

>>> > Re: Intro and Question

>>> >

>>> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having children.

>>I know

>>>

>>> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion because

>>her

>>> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had created.

>>> >

>>> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think

>>it is a form of

>>> > denial.

>>> >

>>> > Jo

>>> >

>>> > To send an email to

>-

>>> >

>>> >

March 12, 2005

Its never ending,- I just seem to spend my whole day tidying up after my

children!

Jo

>Housework is such a nuisance. I often wonder how we make so much mess.

>As

>for the dust - where does it come from! I think when you have young

>children it is necessary to keep everywhere clean. Luckily, later on

>you

>are okay if you clean and tidy once every so often.

>

>Jo

>

>-

><Kimberley1

>

>Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:51 PM

>Re: Eating out and cooking

>

>Hi Jo,

>

>Its not really a luxury in monetary terms its a luxury in the terms of not

>having to do any washingup or housework!

>I like to eat out at least once a week so I can get a break from the

>housework

>and my ex looks after the children at weekends so I can also have some " me "

>time and normally go out with my friends. I look after my children

>alll

>week and look forward to the weekend. I haven't been following the

>discussion

>about whether or not to have kids but I've read a few and for me although

>I've always wanted children it has been a big shock to the system having

>two children in a short space of two years(second one unplanned) and I've

>had to change my lifestyle from independant freespirited " social butterfly "

>to stay at home mother of two! I found it very difficult in the beggining

>having two young children but its getting better now as they're getting

>older

> I wouldn't change anything and i've learnt a lot and I've got strong

>opinions

>about child rearing. I think if you plan to have a child then you have

>to

>plan to stay at at home with that child for at least the first few years

>of his or hers life and also you should be prepared to breastfeed for

>at

>least 2/3 years.If you're not prepared to do this then you shouldn't even

>think about having children. I feel very passionately about this and don't

>understand why some people have kids if they're not prepared to breastfeed

>or want go back to work etc?

>Its a big commitment and I'm still breastfeeding my daughter,( she never

>has a babysitter) and my kids eat very well,- wholefood vegan and no

>junkfood.

>I crave my freedom and independance sometimes but my children come first

>and thats the sacrifice you make if you want to raise your kids properly

>and not hand them over to babysitters and childminders like a lot of women

>think they can do!

>

>Jo

>

>>-- Original Message --

>>

>> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:16:39 -0000

>>Re: Eating out and cooking

>>

>>

>><html><body>

>>

>><tt>

>>Hi Jo

>>

>>I know what you mean about it being a luxury to eat out when you have

>young

>>children. I think the most we could ever afford, was tea and cakes

>>occasionally when we went to the seaside. Now we are older we can fit

>>in

>>more meals out, but still look on it as a treat.

>>

>>I did most of the cooking when our family was growing up, and before

>that

>>as

>>my mother was disabled with rheumatoid arthritis, so I was pleased

when

>>Colin said he would take over the cooking. There's always so much to

>>cook

>>when you have a young family, and you cannot get lazy and think 'I'll

>just

>>have beans on toast for dinner'. Are your children easy to feed or

>>is there

>>a lot that they don't like to eat?

>>

>>I have a couple of books on raw food (ism?), and know a couple of people

>>who

>>follow that diet. I must admit to liking warm food most of the time,

>>and

>>even drink hot water when other people have it chilled!

>>

>>BB

>>Jo

>>

>>Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home

>looking

>>after two youmg children and I

>>normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually meet-up

>with

>>some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London.

During

>>the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its just

>so

>nice

>>to

>>have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a nice

>>veggie

>>guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked food (my

>ex

>>is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan man

>like

>>yours!

>>

>>Jo

>>

>>>-- Original Message --

>>>

>>> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>>>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000

>>> Eating out and cooking

>>>

>>>

>>><html><body>

>>>

>>><tt>

>>>Hey Jo

>>>

>>>We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the Castle

>>Grounds

>>>from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe

called

>>>The

>>>Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a

>small

>>>group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two

>vegan

>>>options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes

>>>it extra

>>>nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which

>is

>>good

>>>value.

>>>

>>>I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the

>cooking,

>>>and

>>>he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I was

>>>ten

>>>years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must admit

>>>that I

>>>don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

>>>

>>>Do you eat out often?

>>>

>>>BB

>>>Jo

>>>-

>>><Kimberley1

>>>

>>>Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

>>>Re: Re: Intro and Question

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Hey Jo,

>>>>

>>>> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with

>you

>>,I

>>>like

>>>> to eat out as much as possible,

>>>> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

>>>>

>>>> Jo

>>>>

>>>> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will

>save

>>cooking

>>>one

>>>> >meal.

>>>> >

>>>> >BB

>>>> >Jo

>>>> > -

>>>> > fraggle

>>>> >

>>>> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

>>>> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

>>>> >

>>>> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

>>>> >

>>>> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer

>a

>>>bit?

>>>> > new topic

>>>> > quick!

>>>> > ummmm...

>>>> > damn...can't think of anything

>>>> > pooburgers....

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > heartwerk

>>>> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

>>>> >

>>>> > Re: Intro and Question

>>>> >

>>>> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having children.

>>>I know

>>>>

>>>> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion

>because

>>>her

>>>> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had created.

>>>> >

>>>> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think

>>>it is a form of

>>>> > denial.

>>>> >

>>>> > Jo

>>>> >

>>>> > To send an email to

>>-

>>>> >

>>>> >

March 13, 2005

LOL - it won't last forever, although it probably feels like it at present.

When they are a little bit older they will be a little bit more helpful with

putting their things away.

Jo

-

<Kimberley1

Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:27 PM

Re: Eating out and cooking

Its never ending,- I just seem to spend my whole day tidying up after my

children!

Jo

>Housework is such a nuisance. I often wonder how we make so much mess.

>As

>for the dust - where does it come from! I think when you have young

>children it is necessary to keep everywhere clean. Luckily, later on

>you

>are okay if you clean and tidy once every so often.

>

>Jo

>

>-

><Kimberley1

>

>Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:51 PM

>Re: Eating out and cooking

>

>Hi Jo,

>

>Its not really a luxury in monetary terms its a luxury in the terms of

not

>having to do any washingup or housework!

>I like to eat out at least once a week so I can get a break from the

>housework

>and my ex looks after the children at weekends so I can also have some

" me "

>time and normally go out with my friends. I look after my children

>alll

>week and look forward to the weekend. I haven't been following the

>discussion

>about whether or not to have kids but I've read a few and for me

although

>I've always wanted children it has been a big shock to the system

having

>two children in a short space of two years(second one unplanned) and

I've

>had to change my lifestyle from independant freespirited " social

butterfly "

>to stay at home mother of two! I found it very difficult in the

beggining

>having two young children but its getting better now as they're getting

>older

> I wouldn't change anything and i've learnt a lot and I've got strong

>opinions

>about child rearing. I think if you plan to have a child then you have

>to

>plan to stay at at home with that child for at least the first few

years

>of his or hers life and also you should be prepared to breastfeed for

>at

>least 2/3 years.If you're not prepared to do this then you shouldn't

even

>think about having children. I feel very passionately about this and

don't

>understand why some people have kids if they're not prepared to

breastfeed

>or want go back to work etc?

>Its a big commitment and I'm still breastfeeding my daughter,( she

never

>has a babysitter) and my kids eat very well,- wholefood vegan and no

>junkfood.

>I crave my freedom and independance sometimes but my children come

first

>and thats the sacrifice you make if you want to raise your kids

properly

>and not hand them over to babysitters and childminders like a lot of

women

>think they can do!

>

>Jo

>

>>-- Original Message --

>>

>> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>>Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:16:39 -0000

>>Re: Eating out and cooking

>>

>>

>><html><body>

>>

>><tt>

>>Hi Jo

>>

>>I know what you mean about it being a luxury to eat out when you have

>young

>>children. I think the most we could ever afford, was tea and cakes

>>occasionally when we went to the seaside. Now we are older we can fit

>>in

>>more meals out, but still look on it as a treat.

>>

>>I did most of the cooking when our family was growing up, and before

>that

>>as

>>my mother was disabled with rheumatoid arthritis, so I was pleased

when

>>Colin said he would take over the cooking. There's always so much to

>>cook

>>when you have a young family, and you cannot get lazy and think 'I'll

>just

>>have beans on toast for dinner'. Are your children easy to feed or

>>is there

>>a lot that they don't like to eat?

>>

>>I have a couple of books on raw food (ism?), and know a couple of

people

>>who

>>follow that diet. I must admit to liking warm food most of the time,

>>and

>>even drink hot water when other people have it chilled!

>>

>>BB

>>Jo

>>

>>Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home

>looking

>>after two youmg children and I

>>normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually meet-up

>with

>>some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London.

During

>>the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its just

>so

>nice

>>to

>>have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a

nice

>>veggie

>>guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked food

(my

>ex

>>is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan man

>like

>>yours!

>>

>>Jo

>>

>>>-- Original Message --

>>>

>>> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork

>>>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000

>>> Eating out and cooking

>>>

>>>

>>><html><body>

>>>

>>><tt>

>>>Hey Jo

>>>

>>>We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the

Castle

>>Grounds

>>>from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe

called

>>>The

>>>Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a

>small

>>>group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two

>vegan

>>>options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes

>>>it extra

>>>nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which

>is

>>good

>>>value.

>>>

>>>I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the

>cooking,

>>>and

>>>he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I

was

>>>ten

>>>years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must

admit

>>>that I

>>>don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

>>>

>>>Do you eat out often?

>>>

>>>BB

>>>Jo

>>>-

>>><Kimberley1

>>>

>>>Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

>>>Re: Re: Intro and Question

>>>

>>>>

>>>> Hey Jo,

>>>>

>>>> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with

>you

>>,I

>>>like

>>>> to eat out as much as possible,

>>>> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

>>>>

>>>> Jo

>>>>

>>>> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will

>save

>>cooking

>>>one

>>>> >meal.

>>>> >

>>>> >BB

>>>> >Jo

>>>> > -

>>>> > fraggle

>>>> >

>>>> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

>>>> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

>>>> >

>>>> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

>>>> >

>>>> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer

>a

>>>bit?

>>>> > new topic

>>>> > quick!

>>>> > ummmm...

>>>> > damn...can't think of anything

>>>> > pooburgers....

>>>> >

>>>> >

>>>> > heartwerk

>>>> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

>>>> >

>>>> > Re: Intro and Question

>>>> >

>>>> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having children.

>>>I know

>>>>

>>>> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion

>because

>>>her

>>>> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had

created.

>>>> >

>>>> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think

>>>it is a form of

>>>> > denial.

>>>> >

>>>> > Jo

>>>> >

>>>> > To send an email to

>>-

>>>> >

>>>> >

March 13, 2005

I don't mind doing dishes, but I HATE laundry,

my husband and I are always arguing about whose turn it is to do

what.

My worse chore to do would have to be picking up CAT VOMIT,

sometimes they overfeed to much, and then they trow up. or when

they chew on plants.

, " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...> wrote:

> Housework is such a nuisance. I often wonder how we make so much

mess. As

> for the dust - where does it come from! I think when you have young

> children it is necessary to keep everywhere clean. Luckily, later

on you

> are okay if you clean and tidy once every so often.

>

> Jo

>

> -

> <Kimberley1@t...>

>

> Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:51 PM

> Re: Eating out and cooking

>

> Hi Jo,

>

> Its not really a luxury in monetary terms its a luxury in the terms

of not

> having to do any washingup or housework!

> I like to eat out at least once a week so I can get a break from the

> housework

> and my ex looks after the children at weekends so I can also have

some " me "

> time and normally go out with my friends. I look after my children

alll

> week and look forward to the weekend. I haven't been following the

> discussion

> about whether or not to have kids but I've read a few and for me

although

> I've always wanted children it has been a big shock to the system

having

> two children in a short space of two years(second one unplanned)

and I've

> had to change my lifestyle from independant freespirited " social

butterfly "

> to stay at home mother of two! I found it very difficult in the

beggining

> having two young children but its getting better now as they're

getting

> older

> I wouldn't change anything and i've learnt a lot and I've got

strong

> opinions

> about child rearing. I think if you plan to have a child then you

have to

> plan to stay at at home with that child for at least the first few

years

> of his or hers life and also you should be prepared to breastfeed

for at

> least 2/3 years.If you're not prepared to do this then you

shouldn't even

> think about having children. I feel very passionately about this

and don't

> understand why some people have kids if they're not prepared to

breastfeed

> or want go back to work etc?

> Its a big commitment and I'm still breastfeeding my daughter,( she

never

> has a babysitter) and my kids eat very well,- wholefood vegan and no

> junkfood.

> I crave my freedom and independance sometimes but my children come

first

> and thats the sacrifice you make if you want to raise your kids

properly

> and not hand them over to babysitters and childminders like a lot

of women

> think they can do!

>

> Jo

>

> >-- Original Message --

> >

> > " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...>

> >Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:16:39 -0000

> >Re: Eating out and cooking

> >

> ><html><body>

> >

> ><tt>

> >Hi Jo

> >

> >I know what you mean about it being a luxury to eat out when you

have

> young

> >children. I think the most we could ever afford, was tea and

cakes

> >occasionally when we went to the seaside. Now we are older we can

fit

> >in

> >more meals out, but still look on it as a treat.

> >

> >I did most of the cooking when our family was growing up, and

before that

> >as

> >my mother was disabled with rheumatoid arthritis, so I was pleased

when

> >Colin said he would take over the cooking. There's always so much

to

> >cook

> >when you have a young family, and you cannot get lazy and

think 'I'll

> just

> >have beans on toast for dinner'. Are your children easy to feed or

> >is there

> >a lot that they don't like to eat?

> >

> >I have a couple of books on raw food (ism?), and know a couple of

people

> >who

> >follow that diet. I must admit to liking warm food most of the

time,

> >and

> >even drink hot water when other people have it chilled!

> >

> >BB

> >Jo

> >

> >Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home

> looking

> >after two youmg children and I

> >normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually

meet-up

> with

> >some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London.

During

> >the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its

just so

> nice

> >to

> >have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a

nice

> >veggie

> >guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked

food (my

> ex

> >is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan

man

> like

> >yours!

> >

> >Jo

> >

> >>-- Original Message --

> >>

> >> " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...>

> >>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000

> >> Eating out and cooking

> >>

> >>

> >><html><body>

> >>

> >><tt>

> >>Hey Jo

> >>

> >>We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the

Castle

> >Grounds

> >>from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe

called

> >>The

> >>Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a

> small

> >>group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two

> vegan

> >>options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes

> >>it extra

> >>nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which

is

> >good

> >>value.

> >>

> >>I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the

> cooking,

> >>and

> >>he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I

was

> >>ten

> >>years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must

admit

> >>that I

> >>don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

> >>

> >>Do you eat out often?

> >>

> >>BB

> >>Jo

> >>-

> >><Kimberley1@t...>

> >>

> >>Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

> >>Re: Re: Intro and Question

> >>

> >>>

> >>> Hey Jo,

> >>>

> >>> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with

you

> >,I

> >>like

> >>> to eat out as much as possible,

> >>> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

> >>>

> >>> Jo

> >>>

> >>> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will

save

> >cooking

> >>one

> >>> >meal.

> >>> >

> >>> >BB

> >>> >Jo

> >>> > -

> >>> > fraggle

> >>> >

> >>> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

> >>> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

> >>> >

> >>> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

> >>> >

> >>> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer a

> >>bit?

> >>> > new topic

> >>> > quick!

> >>> > ummmm...

> >>> > damn...can't think of anything

> >>> > pooburgers....

> >>> >

> >>> >

> >>> > heartwerk

> >>> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

> >>> >

> >>> > Re: Intro and Question

> >>> >

> >>> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having

children.

> >>I know

> >>>

> >>> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion

because

> >>her

> >>> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had

created.

> >>> >

> >>> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think

> >>it is a form of

> >>> > denial.

> >>> >

> >>> > Jo

> >>> >

> >>> > To send an email to

> >-

> >>> >

> >>> >

March 13, 2005

I'll do your laundry if you'll come do my dishes <g>

However, I will not do the cat clean up %-{

Lynda

-

Anouk Sickler

Saturday, March 12, 2005 9:45 PM

Re: Eating out and cooking

I don't mind doing dishes, but I HATE laundry, my husband and I are always arguing about whose turn it is to do what. My worse chore to do would have to be picking up CAT VOMIT, sometimes they overfeed to much, and then they trow up. or when they chew on plants. , "Jo Cwazy" <heartwork@c...> wrote:> Housework is such a nuisance. I often wonder how we make so much mess. As> for the dust - where does it come from! I think when you have young> children it is necessary to keep everywhere clean. Luckily, later on you> are okay if you clean and tidy once every so often.> > Jo> > -> <Kimberley1@t...>> > Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:51 PM> Re: Eating out and cooking> > > > Hi Jo,> > Its not really a luxury in monetary terms its a luxury in the terms of not> having to do any washingup or housework!> I like to eat out at least once a week so I can get a break from the> housework> and my ex looks after the children at weekends so I can also have some "me"> time and normally go out with my friends. I look after my children alll> week and look forward to the weekend. I haven't been following the> discussion> about whether or not to have kids but I've read a few and for me although> I've always wanted children it has been a big shock to the system having> two children in a short space of two years(second one unplanned) and I've> had to change my lifestyle from independant freespirited "social butterfly"> to stay at home mother of two! I found it very difficult in the beggining> having two young children but its getting better now as they're getting> older> I wouldn't change anything and i've learnt a lot and I've got strong> opinions> about child rearing. I think if you plan to have a child then you have to> plan to stay at at home with that child for at least the first few years> of his or hers life and also you should be prepared to breastfeed for at> least 2/3 years.If you're not prepared to do this then you shouldn't even> think about having children. I feel very passionately about this and don't> understand why some people have kids if they're not prepared to breastfeed> or want go back to work etc?> Its a big commitment and I'm still breastfeeding my daughter,( she never> has a babysitter) and my kids eat very well,- wholefood vegan and no> junkfood.> I crave my freedom and independance sometimes but my children come first> and thats the sacrifice you make if you want to raise your kids properly> and not hand them over to babysitters and childminders like a lot of women> think they can do!> > Jo> > > >-- Original Message --> >> >"Jo Cwazy" <heartwork@c...>> >Sat, 12 Mar 2005 12:16:39 -0000> >Re: Eating out and cooking> > > >> >> >> ><html><body>> >> >> ><tt>> >Hi Jo > > > >I know what you mean about it being a luxury to eat out when you have> young > >children. I think the most we could ever afford, was tea and cakes > >occasionally when we went to the seaside. Now we are older we can fit> >in > >more meals out, but still look on it as a treat. > > > >I did most of the cooking when our family was growing up, and before that> >as > >my mother was disabled with rheumatoid arthritis, so I was pleased when > >Colin said he would take over the cooking. There's always so much to> >cook > >when you have a young family, and you cannot get lazy and think 'I'll> just > >have beans on toast for dinner'. Are your children easy to feed or> >is there > >a lot that they don't like to eat? > > > >I have a couple of books on raw food (ism?), and know a couple of people> >who > >follow that diet. I must admit to liking warm food most of the time,> >and > >even drink hot water when other people have it chilled! > > > >BB > >Jo > > > >Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home> looking > >after two youmg children and I > >normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually meet-up> with > >some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London. During > >the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its just so> nice > >to > >have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a nice > >veggie > >guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked food (my> ex > >is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan man> like > >yours! > > > >Jo > > > > > >>-- Original Message -- > >> > >>"Jo Cwazy" <heartwork@c...> > >>Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000 > >> Eating out and cooking > >> > >> > >> > >> > >><html><body> > >> > >> > >><tt> > >>Hey Jo > >> > >>We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the Castle > >Grounds > >>from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe called > >>The > >>Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a> small > >>group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only two> vegan > >>options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes > >>it extra > >>nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which is > >good > >>value. > >> > >>I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the> cooking, > >>and > >>he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I was > >>ten > >>years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must admit > >>that I > >>don't mind washing up, so it works out well. > >> > >>Do you eat out often? > >> > >>BB > >>Jo > >>- > >><Kimberley1@t...> > >> > >>Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM > >>Re: Re: Intro and Question > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Hey Jo, > >>> > >>> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with you> >,I > >>like > >>> to eat out as much as possible, > >>> or get somebody else to do the cooking, > >>> > >>> Jo > >>> > >>> > >>> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will save > >cooking > >>one > >>> >meal. > >>> > > >>> >BB > >>> >Jo > >>> > - > >>> > fraggle > >>> > > >>> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM > >>> > Re: Re: Intro and Question > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time... > >>> > > >>> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer a > >>bit? > >>> > new topic > >>> > quick! > >>> > ummmm... > >>> > damn...can't think of anything > >>> > pooburgers.... > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > heartwerk > >>> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM > >>> > > >>> > Re: Intro and Question > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having children. > >>I know > >>> > >>> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion because > >>her > >>> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had created. > >>> > > >>> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think > >>it is a form of > >>> > denial. > >>> > > >>> > Jo > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > To send an email to > >- > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >

March 15, 2005

Yeah, I agree! My ex loved to cook. He in fact never let me cook

because he loved to cook these elaborate vegan meals so much. I got

so spoiled. And we spent hardly anything on food cause we both

worked some hours at the coop for a nice discount. Oh, the memories.

sara

, Kimberley1@t... wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Eatiing out for me is a luxury. I spend most of the week at home

looking

> after two youmg children and I

> normally only get some free time at the weekends. So I usually

meet-up with

> some friends and go to a veggie restaurant locally or in London.

During

> the week I'm at home with my children,(being a mother), and its

just so nice

> to

> have some free-time and be waited on occasionally. I wish I had a

nice veggie

> guy to do some cooking for me or one that even liked cooked

food (my ex

> is a raw foodists!- boring sometimes).I think I need a good vegan

man like

> yours!

>

> Jo

>

> >-- Original Message --

> >

> > " Jo Cwazy " <heartwork@c...>

> >Fri, 11 Mar 2005 20:36:16 -0000

> > Eating out and cooking

> >

> ><html><body>

> >

> ><tt>

> >Hey Jo

> >

> >We are shopping in Guildford tomorrow, as we like to see the

Castle Grounds

> >from time to time (usually very pretty). There is a little cafe

called

> >The

> >Beano at the Guildford Institute. It is a sort of co-op run by a

small

> >group of women. The meals are very tasty, although maybe only

two vegan

> >options each day. The deserts are rather nice too. What makes

> >it extra

> >nice is that it costs £5.95 for the main course and desert, which

is good

> >value.

> >

> >I must admit to being lucky in that my husband now does all the

cooking,

> >and

> >he is excellent at it. I hate cooking, as I had done it since I

was

> >ten

> >years old, so my husband thought I deserved a change. I must

admit

> >that I

> >don't mind washing up, so it works out well.

> >

> >Do you eat out often?

> >

> >BB

> >Jo

> >-

> ><Kimberley1@t...>

> >

> >Friday, March 11, 2005 8:22 PM

> >Re: Re: Intro and Question

> >

> >>

> >> Hey Jo,

> >>

> >> Where abouts do you plan to eat out? Cooking?? - I agree with

you ,I

> >like

> >> to eat out as much as possible,

> >> or get somebody else to do the cooking,

> >>

> >> Jo

> >>

> >> > We may eat out tomorrow if we are shopping, so that will save

cooking

> >one

> >> >meal.

> >> >

> >> >BB

> >> >Jo

> >> > -

> >> > fraggle

> >> >

> >> > Friday, March 11, 2005 3:48 PM

> >> > Re: Re: Intro and Question

> >> >

> >> > happens all the time Jo..happens all the time...

> >> >

> >> > can i ask that we happily skip away from this topic fer a

> >bit?

> >> > new topic

> >> > quick!

> >> > ummmm...

> >> > damn...can't think of anything

> >> > pooburgers....

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > heartwerk

> >> > Mar 11, 2005 4:39 AM

> >> >

> >> > Re: Intro and Question

> >> >

> >> > I don't know anyone who has been forced into having

children.

> >I know

> >>

> >> > someone who was mentally forced into having an abortion

because

> >her

> >> > husband didn't want to have the child that he had

created.

> >> >

> >> > I don't agree that it is forward thinking. I think

> >it is a form of

> >> > denial.

> >> >

> >> > Jo

> >> >

> >> > To send an email to -

> >> >

> >> >

March 15, 2005

sara wrote:

>Yeah, I agree! My ex loved to cook. He in fact never let me cook

>because he loved to cook these elaborate vegan meals so much. I got

>so spoiled. And we spent hardly anything on food cause we both

>worked some hours at the coop for a nice discount. Oh, the memories.

Sounds so nice, sara.

I'm pretty lucky. My partners aren't vegetarians, but they'll eat

anything I cook (I love to cook) and when I don't feel like cooking,

James makes something tasty and vegan for us. We rarely eat out,

and we live within walking distance of a really great place to get

wonderful and cheap produce, so we don't spend all that much on food.

TVP is a staple in this house, and it's about twenty cents a serving.

Same with seitan and beans -- cheap and abundant around here.

I love having a non-picky eater for a partner. My ex-wife was the

queen of diner food, and if it wasn't a slab of meat and some

potatoes, it wasn't real food.

serene

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