Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 the art of vegan pizza making by marc well! pizza, the ultimate way to eat cheese for non-vegans, or not? you know what I am talking about when you've tried to order pizza " without cheese " in a pizzeria, they give you a weird look like you're an alien and when you get what you wanted the first time, you're lucky. but nevertheless, vegan pizza making can be as delicious and tasty as its animal-unfriendly counterpart, you just have to learn a few tricks and know the basics, then you might have pizza every night! ha! but let's start with the main part of the pizza: the base. there are four different types of bases; 1. fast and lazy: the ready-made pizza base that you get in your local supermarket or organic shop. you just put paste and toppings on and its ready to go in the oven! if you choose this method, you should pre cook your veggies, cause this type of base doesn't need much time in the oven. 2. not fast, but still for lazy people: the base mixture you get at the supermarket or organic shop. its mostly baking powder based and you can get wholemeal and plain flour mixtures, so you just add oil and water (or soy-milk) and you roll it on an baking tray. 3. the yeast - DIY style: 400 g flour (wholemeal or plain...) 30 g fresh yeast (or 2 tsp dry yeast) 200 g water or soy-milk 1 tsp salt 4 tsp oil warm up the water or soymilk a bit (not too hot!) then put small bits of yeast in the milk and try to dissolve it. add all the other ingredients and knead the dough well (if it sticks on your hands badly, add more flour!), then put a wet towel over the bowl and put it in a warm place for 30mins. after that you knead it again, then form it for the baking tray (with flour underneath so it doesn't stick) and finally put it on the oiled tray! form a higher edge on the sides! 4. the bakingpowder - DIY style: 300g flour baking powder (there should be a note on the package like " one package for 500g of flour) 1/2 tsp salt 150g silken tofu 6 tbsp oil 6 tbsp soy milk mix the flour with salt and baking powder add silken tofu, oil and soymilk. mix with a spoon until its ready to knead with your hands (on a flourered space) the dough should look fine and shiny. if its too runny add a bit of flour. then put it in form for the baking tray, oil the tray and put it on that. done! okay now that we've got the dough ready, let's have a look at the 2nd most important pizza part: the sauce! again there are several ways to do this. you can get ready made, spiced and seasoned pizza sauce nearly everywhere (preferably organic, tomatoes are one of the worst pesticide contaminated vegetable, not to mention GE ones). another easy solution for the busy vegan of today is the following: 150g tomato paste 3 tbsp olive oil salt, pepper, basil, oregano (preferably fresh herbs!) just mix together, taste with the spices and put it on the base! for more taste you can add some garlic or fried onions, or whatever! allright now for the topping! basically you can use all vegetables you have, just make sure you cut them thinly so they are cooked when the pizza is ready. you can use classic topping like: onions, chilli peppers, spinach, capsicum, mushrooms, broccoli, corn, olives, sun- dried tomatoes, aubergine. but don't be afraid to experiment with the topping! the key is the combination, one of my favourite combinations would be potatoes, carrot and onions, with lots of olive oil, or try walnuts with pineapple and spinach! hmmmmm! now for the dot on the 'i': the 2nd topping or the cheese alternative, however you want to call it. its not necessary to use a cheese alternative cause its pretty yummy without it, but i can recommend these three delicious alternatives: 1. the classic vegan cheese 3 tbsp nurtional yeast or yeast " flakes " 2 tbsp flour 1 tbsp vegan margarine 1 tsp mustard salt, pepper, curry mix all the dry ingredients together in a bowl. put the margarine in a pot and melt it. add a tablespoon of the mixture and stirr it, fry this for a bit until it gets browner, then add the rest of the mixture plus a bit of water. stirr and add as much water to make it a thick paste. done! 2. the crusty tofu one take about 250g of tofu, make it crumbly with a fork, add soy sauce and put this over your pizza! (this works with tempeh as well!) 3. the crusty tempeh one take about 200g of tempeh, make it crumbly with a fork, add soy sauce and 2 tbsp of olive oil, fry it for a few minutes then put over the pizza! well! that's it! now the pizza is ready to go into the oven! baking takes about 20-30min with the 2nd, 3rd and 4th dough alternative at about 180-200°C. don't forget to preheat the oven! the pizza is ready when the edge of the dough gets brown and before the topping starts to get black!! and now enjoy your vegan pizza!!! tips: - if you like your pizza oily or it is too dry just pour a bit of oil over it afterwards! - if you use salads or spinach types add them 10 minutes before the pizza is ready, so they don't dry out! - you can bake the base on its own for 15 minutes and add sauce and toppings then so the base doesn't get soggy! - i heard grilling pizza is the new way…hmmmm! - you can make the double amount of dough and freeze it so you can have a quick pizza next time! 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Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Wow, what a fun primer. Thanks! (The pre-made pizza bases I've seen all included cheese, but I'm sure vegan choices exist out there. I'm not a huge fan of pizza, but my partners are, so I may try making my own.) serene -- " A conservative is someone who worships the views of dead liberals. " -- The Holy Church of Happy Good Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 I learned pizza making from my first husband's grandmother who was raised in Italy. Noni didn't put red sauce on her pizzas. She used olive oil and spices and then added roasted bell peppers, grilled onions, roasted garlic (rub with oil, bake in oven and then spread the paste on pizza), or she'd prebake the crust and spread with an olive tapenade (finely chopped olives, capers, bell peppers, sun dried tomatoes). I've also made the pizza on the grill. It is really good with veggies that you grill along side it and then put on when you turn it to grill the second side. Lynda - Anouk Sickler Saturday, March 12, 2005 10:49 PM pizza vegan the art of vegan pizza making by marcwell! pizza, the ultimate way to eat cheese for non-vegans, or not? you know what I am talking about when you've tried to order pizza "without cheese" in a pizzeria, they give you a weird look like you're an alien and when you get what you wanted the first time, you're lucky. but nevertheless, vegan pizza making can be as delicious and tasty as its animal-unfriendly counterpart, you just have to learn a few tricks and know the basics, then you might have pizza every night! ha!but let's start with the main part of the pizza: the base. there are four different types of bases; 1. fast and lazy: the ready-made pizza base that you get in your local supermarket or organic shop. you just put paste and toppings on and its ready to go in the oven! if you choose this method, you should pre cook your veggies, cause this type of base doesn't need much time in the oven.2. not fast, but still for lazy people: the base mixture you get at the supermarket or organic shop. its mostly baking powder based and you can get wholemeal and plain flour mixtures, so you just add oil and water (or soy-milk) and you roll it on an baking tray.3. the yeast - DIY style: 400 g flour (wholemeal or plain...)30 g fresh yeast (or 2 tsp dry yeast)200 g water or soy-milk1 tsp salt4 tsp oilwarm up the water or soymilk a bit (not too hot!) then put small bits of yeast in the milk and try to dissolve it. add all the other ingredients and knead the dough well (if it sticks on your hands badly, add more flour!), then put a wet towel over the bowl and put it in a warm place for 30mins. after that you knead it again, then form it for the baking tray (with flour underneath so it doesn't stick) and finally put it on the oiled tray! form a higher edge on the sides!4. the bakingpowder - DIY style:300g flourbaking powder (there should be a note on the package like "one package for 500g of flour)1/2 tsp salt150g silken tofu6 tbsp oil6 tbsp soy milkmix the flour with salt and baking powder add silken tofu, oil and soymilk. mix with a spoon until its ready to knead with your hands (on a flourered space) the dough should look fine and shiny. if its too runny add a bit of flour. then put it in form for the baking tray, oil the tray and put it on that. done!okay now that we've got the dough ready, let's have a look at the 2nd most important pizza part: the sauce!again there are several ways to do this. you can get ready made, spiced and seasoned pizza sauce nearly everywhere (preferably organic, tomatoes are one of the worst pesticide contaminated vegetable, not to mention GE ones). another easy solution for the busy vegan of today is the following: 150g tomato paste3 tbsp olive oilsalt, pepper, basil, oregano (preferably fresh herbs!)just mix together, taste with the spices and put it on the base! for more taste you can add some garlic or fried onions, or whatever! allright now for the topping! basically you can use all vegetables you have, just make sure you cut them thinly so they are cooked when the pizza is ready. you can use classic topping like: onions, chilli peppers, spinach, capsicum, mushrooms, broccoli, corn, olives, sun-dried tomatoes, aubergine. but don't be afraid to experiment with the topping! the key is the combination, one of my favourite combinations would be potatoes, carrot and onions, with lots of olive oil, or try walnuts with pineapple and spinach! hmmmmm! now for the dot on the 'i': the 2nd topping or the cheese alternative, however you want to call it. its not necessary to use a cheese alternative cause its pretty yummy without it, but i can recommend these three delicious alternatives:1. the classic vegan cheese3 tbsp nurtional yeast or yeast "flakes"2 tbsp flour1 tbsp vegan margarine1 tsp mustardsalt, pepper, currymix all the dry ingredients together in a bowl. put the margarine in a pot and melt it. add a tablespoon of the mixture and stirr it, fry this for a bit until it gets browner, then add the rest of the mixture plus a bit of water. stirr and add as much water to make it a thick paste. done!2. the crusty tofu onetake about 250g of tofu, make it crumbly with a fork, add soy sauce and put this over your pizza! (this works with tempeh as well!)3. the crusty tempeh onetake about 200g of tempeh, make it crumbly with a fork, add soy sauce and 2 tbsp of olive oil, fry it for a few minutes then put over the pizza! well! that's it! now the pizza is ready to go into the oven!baking takes about 20-30min with the 2nd, 3rd and 4th dough alternative at about 180-200°C. don't forget to preheat the oven! the pizza is ready when the edge of the dough gets brown and before the topping starts to get black!! and now enjoy your vegan pizza!!!tips:- if you like your pizza oily or it is too dry just pour a bit of oil over it afterwards!- if you use salads or spinach types add them 10 minutes before the pizza is ready, so they don't dry out! - you can bake the base on its own for 15 minutes and add sauce and toppings then so the base doesn't get soggy!- i heard grilling pizza is the new way…hmmmm!- you can make the double amount of dough and freeze it so you can have a quick pizza next time!Correo Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! ¡Abrí tu cuenta ya! - http://correo..ar--- Fin de mensaje reenviado ---To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Thaks for this Anouk. I will try them. Neals Yard in Covent Garden do vegan pizzas, which are delicious. Whenever in that area (about twice a year) we go there. Jo pizza vegan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Hi Anouk > well! pizza, the ultimate way to eat cheese for non-vegans, or not? Apparently, original pizza (as in the Italian stuff) is usually vegan anyway. It's only when America adopted it as a national food that they decided to add cheese as standard! BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 I made pizza last night and have one thing to say: hot pizza pans and bare midriffs don't mix. Ouch. Love, Anna > [Original Message] > Peter <metalscarab > > 3/13/2005 6:50:13 AM > Re: pizza vegan > > > Hi Anouk > > > well! pizza, the ultimate way to eat cheese for non-vegans, or not? > > Apparently, original pizza (as in the Italian stuff) is usually vegan > anyway. It's only when America adopted it as a national food that they > decided to add cheese as standard! > > BB > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Sounds painful! I find lavender essential oil very good for burns, but if you don't have it aloe gel is also good. Jo > > I made pizza last night and have one thing to say: hot pizza pans and bare > midriffs don't mix. Ouch. > > Love, > Anna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Peter wrote: >Apparently, original pizza (as in the Italian stuff) is usually vegan >anyway. It's only when America adopted it as a national food that they >decided to add cheese as standard! It's always been my understanding that pizza didn't actually come from Italy. Am I mistaken? serene -- " A conservative is someone who worships the views of dead liberals. " -- The Holy Church of Happy Good Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Anna wrote: >I made pizza last night and have one thing to say: hot pizza pans and bare >midriffs don't mix. Ouch. Likewise boiling mushroom broth. Owie. serene, feeling Anna's pain -- " A conservative is someone who worships the views of dead liberals. " -- The Holy Church of Happy Good Times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 It definately an Italian origin. It has morphedover time but it goes back to before when. It was original used as a flat bread type of plate. It was cooked and then the toppings were added. You ate your toppings and then ate the plate. Naples is the home of what we would be most likely to recognize as a pizza. They were the first to consider a tomato to be something other than a poison that was brought over from the "New" World. They were first called Neopolitan pies. Around the 17th century they became known as pizza after the pizzaioli (chefs who made pizza). In 1905 Gennaro Lombardi opened the first pizzeria in NYC. It really took off after WWII when American soldiers returned home and wanted more of the pizza they tasted when they were stationed in Italy. Oh, did I mention, 2nd DH's family is from Naples <g> I've been inundated with Italian cooking history from all my in-laws. Lynda - serene (Sandra Vannoy) Sunday, March 13, 2005 4:35 PM Re: pizza vegan Peter wrote:>Apparently, original pizza (as in the Italian stuff) is usually vegan>anyway. It's only when America adopted it as a national food that they>decided to add cheese as standard!It's always been my understanding that pizza didn't actually come from Italy. Am I mistaken?serene-- "A conservative is someone who worships the views of dead liberals." -- The Holy Church of Happy Good TimesTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 depends a sorta pizza has been eaten in the Mediterranean area for thousands of years..and as far back as the babylonians... the romans had an unleavened flat bread with toppings called picea(i think thats its)... at first it was just unleavened flat bread with herbs and other toppings cheese didn't come til much later...like the 18th century er something... but..pizza as we know it basically gained a handhold amongst the peasants of southern italy..naples.. and stayed there... it of course came to the US with the waves of immigrants in the late 19th century.... an aside...when i was a tiny wee fraggle..pizza was called apizza... "serene (Sandra Vannoy)" Mar 13, 2005 4:35 PM Re: pizza vegan Peter wrote:>Apparently, original pizza (as in the Italian stuff) is usually vegan>anyway. It's only when America adopted it as a national food that they>decided to add cheese as standard!It's always been my understanding that pizza didn't actually come from Italy. Am I mistaken?serene-- "A conservative is someone who worships the views of dead liberals." -- The Holy Church of Happy Good TimesTo send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Hi Fraggle > a sorta pizza has been eaten in the Mediterranean area for thousands of years..and as far back as the babylonians... You never fail to amaze me with the vast amounts of trivia you know!!!! :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Hi Lynda > It definately an Italian origin.OK... I'm definitely impressed with all this knowledge on pizza... I never realised there was so much history to it :-) BB Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 and it sure has taken me far... ugh may i take your order please, would you like biggie fries with that? hahahahahahahaha Peter Mar 14, 2005 3:26 PM Re: pizza vegan Hi Fraggle > a sorta pizza has been eaten in the Mediterranean area for thousands of years..and as far back as the babylonians... You never fail to amaze me with the vast amounts of trivia you know!!!! :-) BB Peter To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Oh, yum! I am making pizza tonight after this inspiration. I went camping in Death Valley this weekend (awesome flower display, btw) and for dinner, we made pine nut couscous with garlic, broccoli and summer squash. So good and so fast. I eat tons of couscous when camping. Then we had some of Uncle Eddie's trail mix cookies for dessert. Yum! sara , " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > > the art of vegan pizza making by marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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