Ethic or Lifestyle?

May 2, 2005

Hey Lynda

Ethics OR lifestyle? How about both? In my thoughts I've came across

four main reasons for choosing veganism. They are:

1) Health (vegans live on average six to ten years longer)

2) Environmental (meat production is not sustainable for our

population, not to mention the polution)

3) Compassion (I believe that human are inately compassionate towards

other species and eating them denys us this value)

4) Biological Manipulation (i.e. steroids, antibiotics, genetic

engineering, AN ADULT FACTORY FARM CHICKEN IT TOO FAT TO WALK AT SIX

WEEK OF AGE!!! THAT'S WARPED.

Do you have any more reasons?

k-bye

jeff

May 2, 2005

Hi Jeff / Lynda

> 1) Health (vegans live on average six to ten years longer)

> 2) Environmental (meat production is not sustainable for our

> population, not to mention the polution)

> 3) Compassion (I believe that human are inately compassionate towards

> other species and eating them denys us this value)

> 4) Biological Manipulation (i.e. steroids, antibiotics, genetic

> engineering,

This is an interesting discussion. While I agree with you on all the above,

I have personally yet to meet anyone who has chosen to be vegan for purely

health reasons (most, including myself, seem to find the health reasons

after becomming vegan).

There is also one other reason that some people are vegan - religious. Hare

Krishna followers are often vegan for this reason, and I know that we have

in the past had Christians on the list who chose to become vegan because of

their religious views - I suspect there are other religions as well!

BB

Peter

May 2, 2005

i've known a few vegans wh o did it purely for health...

as for religions..i'm known hindu, buddhist, x-tian, wiccan, and islamic vegans...and i have a book at home on the history of jewish vegetarianism....

Peter May 2, 2005 10:13 AM Re: Re: Ethic or Lifestyle? Hi Jeff / Lynda> 1) Health (vegans live on average six to ten years longer)> 2) Environmental (meat production is not sustainable for our> population, not to mention the polution)> 3) Compassion (I believe that human are inately compassionate towards> other species and eating them denys us this value)> 4) Biological Manipulation (i.e. steroids, antibiotics, genetic> engineering,This is an interesting discussion. While I agree with you on all the above,I have personally yet to meet anyone who has chosen to be vegan for purelyhealth reasons (most, including myself, seem to find the health reasonsafter becomming vegan).There is also one other reason that some people are vegan - religious. HareKrishna followers are often vegan for this reason, and I know that we havein the past had Christians on the list who chose to become vegan because oftheir religious views - I suspect there are other religions as well!BBPeterTo send an email to -

May 3, 2005

I have to admit that I feel that I do not feel that I fit into any

of these catagories mentioned here.

1.HEALTH I like the health benifits that being vegan bring and even

if I did have a choice now I would not reverse my path in life even

though I went down this path many years ago before the benifits were

recognised. In fact it was considered a health risk at the time.

2. ENVIRONMENTAL I could almost repeat the above paragraph in this

regard

3.COMPASSION. I would not deliberatly hurt any living creature if I

could avoide it but if a fly is anywhere near my food and I have no

choice I have to admit that the purity of what goes in to my mouth

is paramount. (You can guess the rest).

4 BIOLOGICAL MANIPULATION.Yes. This bothers me greatly but this did

not exist either when I gave up eating meat.

I am in another catagory. I did not make a choice. I have a deep

physcological problem that does not allow me to eat meat because I

think that it is in some way dirty. Am I the only one in this group.

Please tell me that I am not

, " jeffdevine8 " <jeffdevine8>

wrote:

> Hey Lynda

>

> Ethics OR lifestyle? How about both? In my thoughts I've came

across

> four main reasons for choosing veganism. They are:

>

> 1) Health (vegans live on average six to ten years longer)

> 2) Environmental (meat production is not sustainable for our

> population, not to mention the polution)

> 3) Compassion (I believe that human are inately compassionate

towards

> other species and eating them denys us this value)

> 4) Biological Manipulation (i.e. steroids, antibiotics, genetic

> engineering, AN ADULT FACTORY FARM CHICKEN IT TOO FAT TO WALK AT

SIX

> WEEK OF AGE!!! THAT'S WARPED.

>

> Do you have any more reasons?

>

> k-bye

>

> jeff

May 3, 2005

I think meat is dirty too, but I didn't consider it dirty till after I

gave it up. The thought of having a piece of meat in my mouth now is

kind of repulsive to me, it's a texture thing.

You seem worried that your alone in this catagory. So what if you

are? It's your individuality. Meat is dirty.

May 3, 2005

Hi Mary

I doubt that you are alone. I used to eat meat, but was never that

happy about it - just brought up that way. Having given it up it is

obvious to me that it is dirty, especially in comparison with all

those lovely fresh, clean veggies.

Jo

, " Mary Minihane " <minih@g...> wrote:

> I have to admit that I feel that I do not feel that I fit into any

> of these catagories mentioned here.

> 1.HEALTH I like the health benifits that being vegan bring and

even

> if I did have a choice now I would not reverse my path in life even

> though I went down this path many years ago before the benifits

were

> recognised. In fact it was considered a health risk at the time.

> 2. ENVIRONMENTAL I could almost repeat the above paragraph in this

> regard

> 3.COMPASSION. I would not deliberatly hurt any living creature if I

> could avoide it but if a fly is anywhere near my food and I have no

> choice I have to admit that the purity of what goes in to my mouth

> is paramount. (You can guess the rest).

> 4 BIOLOGICAL MANIPULATION.Yes. This bothers me greatly but this did

> not exist either when I gave up eating meat.

>

> I am in another catagory. I did not make a choice. I have a deep

> physcological problem that does not allow me to eat meat because I

> think that it is in some way dirty. Am I the only one in this

group.

> Please tell me that I am not

>

> , " jeffdevine8 " <jeffdevine8>

> wrote:

> > Hey Lynda

> >

> > Ethics OR lifestyle? How about both? In my thoughts I've came

> across

> > four main reasons for choosing veganism. They are:

> >

> > 1) Health (vegans live on average six to ten years longer)

> > 2) Environmental (meat production is not sustainable for our

> > population, not to mention the polution)

> > 3) Compassion (I believe that human are inately compassionate

> towards

> > other species and eating them denys us this value)

> > 4) Biological Manipulation (i.e. steroids, antibiotics, genetic

> > engineering, AN ADULT FACTORY FARM CHICKEN IT TOO FAT TO WALK AT

> SIX

> > WEEK OF AGE!!! THAT'S WARPED.

> >

> > Do you have any more reasons?

> >

> > k-bye

> >

> > jeff

May 3, 2005

Hi Mary

> I am in another catagory. I did not make a choice. I have a deep

> physcological problem that does not allow me to eat meat because I

> think that it is in some way dirty. Am I the only one in this group.

> Please tell me that I am not

I'm not sure I'd call that a psychological *problem* - more a

psychological blessing!! :-)

BB

Peter

May 3, 2005

Very true - it would be the response of a natural herbivore, which we should

be.