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I'm just curious to what extreme do you all take your vegetarianism.

 

A friend of mine just said she was being a " bad vegetarian " because she'd

been scoffing up jelly beans all week, and just now realized that they had

gelatin in them.

 

The basis of my entire belief system is balance. I believe in doing what I

can to protect/improve the environment, but I have to drive my car...(as an

example)

 

I chose to stop eating meat as a personal choice to try to eliminate

digestive issues....of course aftewards, my choice was fortified by WAY too

many PETA videos...*L* but I do not know if I can comb the label of every

single thing I put in my mouth to make sure that there are no animal parts

in it...!??? I guess it's easy to hop on the veggie bandwagon and be

unreasonable about it. I dont' want to be one of those people who look upon

dinner partners, or family members with disgust as they eat a

hamburger...(their personal choice right??)

 

Here's another example. I recently had a car accident, and separated (not

dislocated) my right shoulder. It was an extremely painful injury, but

thankfully, it's healed quickly. Along with physical therapy, I take a

ligament support natural supplement..and it is LOADED with bovine bone,

bovien spleen, and ovine spleen in addition to vegetables and roots....You

could drive yourself NUTS!!!

 

I just wonder where you all draw the line.....

 

Marie

 

 

 

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I've always been fascinated by this topic. Did you ever meet another vegetarian

and wonder if they would think you were vegetarian enough? I eat a vegan diet,

but I screw up every now and then too. I really strive not to beat myself up

about it. Mistakes happen, to everyone!

 

I avoid leather in new purchases but I also agree with Donna regarding thrift

store purchases. I bought a pair of vintage clogs that were leather at the

thrift store a few years back. At the same time someone gave me an angora

sweater this Christmas and I just couldn't wear it. I ended up donating it.

 

In the end, I do the best I can and I only have to answer to myself.

 

 

Katie

http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com

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Katie,

I agree.

I also try, but sometimes,as you know, it just does not work. My

mother gave me the nicest garage sale goose down coat and I really

needed the extra warmth this winter on the ranch. I thought about it

as I do the honey that I sometimes eat and I wonder if I will ever be

able some day to call myself a Vegan. I tell people that I am

a " wanna be Vegan " ..LOL

A relative said to me recently " you are not a Vegetarian because you

eat eggs and yogurt " . Oh well ! I buy almost everything at thrift

stores or yard sales and I recycle all I can. We do the best we can

with the information we have at the time.

Make a rewarding , peaceful day

Deanna in Colorado

, Katie Mangan

<kmangan33 wrote:

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> I've always been fascinated by this topic. Did you ever meet

another vegetarian and wonder if they would think you were vegetarian

enough? I eat a vegan diet, but I screw up every now and then too.

I really strive not to beat myself up about it. Mistakes happen, to

everyone!

>

> I avoid leather in new purchases but I also agree with Donna

regarding thrift store purchases. I bought a pair of vintage clogs

that were leather at the thrift store a few years back. At the same

time someone gave me an angora sweater this Christmas and I just

couldn't wear it. I ended up donating it.

>

> In the end, I do the best I can and I only have to answer to

myself.

>

>

> Katie

> http://frugalveggiemama.blogspot.com

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I would love it of the whole world were vegetarian

> but

> unfortunately they are not.

>

> Years ago I was wearing a shirt that said

> vegetarians are

> earths best friends and some man came up to me and

> said

> unless you are lettuce, I am sure he was trying to

> get a

> rise out of me I didn't respond.

>

> All anyone can do is there best and if that means

> you are

> vegan then you are vegan if that means you eat eggs

> and

 

 

 

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I hear ya! I've experienced both-the raw fruitatarians who think it's all or

nothing and then

oddly enough, someone stuffing a hot dog into his mouth, asking why I kept a

pair of

leather shoes I have also seen how the hard core, judgmental veggies usually

cannot keep

up a " perfect " lifestyle for long. I'm not being ugly on this I just figure

we're all doing the

best we can, every thing you can do helps, etc.... : )

melissa

 

 

 

, <j.steward wrote:

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> Did you ever meet another vegetarian and wonder if they would think you were

vegetarian enough?

>

> This reminds me of the episode of the Simpsons in which Lisa becomes a

vegetarian.

She meets with Apu and Paul and Linda McCartney, who say that they are vegans.

Lisa

says, oh, I am just a vegetarian. You all must think I am a barbarian!

>

> I actually seem to run into more carnivores who quiz me on my vegetarian

credibility.

(Recall that I live in a very vegetarian-unfriendly area). I get the, " Oh,

aren't those sneakers

leather? Oh, you are eating marshmallows? Oh, you eat McDonald's fries? " Or

whatever.

It is as if you have entered some unspoken personal competition...and you

performance

must be judged.

>

> Jen

 

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I had someone say to me the other day, that they think vegetarian's diet is

just as bad as their meat diet, because they've seen them eat dessert.........

Can you believe that???????? Just excuses! If we wait until others diets are

perfect before we listen to the great info they have to share with us, then

we'll never be open to hearing all the great wealth of info there is out

there.... This just made me shutter at how close minded some folks are.

 

Ugh.

 

Judy

 

 

 

, <j.steward wrote:

>

>> I actually seem to run into more carnivores who quiz me on my vegetarian

credibility.

(Recall that I live in a very vegetarian-unfriendly area). I get the, " Oh,

aren't those sneakers

leather? Oh, you are eating marshmallows? Oh, you eat McDonald's fries? " Or

whatever.

It is as if you have entered some unspoken personal competition...and you

performance

must be judged.

>

> Jen

 

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Me too...for health reasons. I have some things that are made of leather, like

handbags and shoes. They are in great condition and have lasted for years, still

have alot of life in them. *for me*, if it's still good, keep it. if you can buy

things that last, it is better for the environment than having to buy

replacements...the whole manufacturing, energy, pollution thing. More than for

the animals, I try to look at the big picture. For instance, I would buy a

leather item at a thrift store before I would buy a " vegan " item brand new...and

I'm not too sure about some of the " leather alternatives " ...wondering what kinds

of chemicals are used in their production.

Stephanie :)

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did you guys all hear about the feaux-fur fiasco? I think ti was Tommy

Hillfigger and some other companiess.. the supposed fake fur from china

was actually coming from dogs and cats - it was pretty big news a few

weeks ago

 

mike

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I did hear about that. How sad that they (the suppliers) considered dogs,

cats, rabbits and raccoons to be " faux " fur. They did give some tips too

about recognizing which is which. I guess the thing is you can see skin on

the fake faux fur, but you see netting on the real faux fur.

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Mike

Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:45 AM

 

Re:Extremes?

 

did you guys all hear about the feaux-fur fiasco? I think ti was Tommy

Hillfigger and some other companiess.. the supposed fake fur from china

was actually coming from dogs and cats - it was pretty big news a few

weeks ago

 

mike

 

 

 

 

 

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Following months of discussions with PETA, Tommy Hilfiger joins Calvin Klein

Ralph Lauren, Kenneth Cole, and others in banning fur from his collections.

" Starting immediately, the company will cease development of any product

containing fur, and any fur garment already in production will be phased out

of sales channels by the delivery of the spring 2008 collection, " Tommy

Hilfiger Corp. Announced in a statement. Fred Gehring, CEO of Tommy Hilfiger

Corp., told fashion trade publication Women's Wear Daily that to " guarantee

our products live up to the integrity we promise our customers, we have

decided to switch to a faux fur policy entirely. "

 

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Penny

4/7/2007 10:26:40 AM

 

RE: Re:Extremes?

 

I did hear about that. How sad that they (the suppliers) considered dogs,

cats, rabbits and raccoons to be " faux " fur. They did give some tips too

about recognizing which is which. I guess the thing is you can see skin on

the fake faux fur, but you see netting on the real faux fur.

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Mike

Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:45 AM

 

Re:Extremes?

 

did you guys all hear about the feaux-fur fiasco? I think ti was Tommy

Hillfigger and some other companiess.. the supposed fake fur from china

was actually coming from dogs and cats - it was pretty big news a few

weeks ago

 

mike

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Stephanie and everyone!

I aggree with you there. I love thrift stores, I live

in them! I love the world of recyling. I try to buy

everything from the thrift stores first. But I do what

I can, I'm just getting back on the track to being a

vegetarian after falling off the track after having

kids. I probably won't be a vegan, but I at least I'm

starting with being a vegetarian. I was a vegetarian

for 5 years before the children. Now, I hope to keep

it a lasting lifelong commitment.

 

Amy:)

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I know a couple of months ago what was advertised as faux fur in

Sean John's (P Diddy) collection at Macy's was reported, bc the

items were delivery with tags reading " raccoon fur. " Well it turned

out to be fur from a type of dog called a raccoon dog. :( Apparently

mislabeled dog fur from China is a common problem. I'm glad to see

so many designers banning fur from their lines though!

 

, " Sue " <kup wrote:

>

>

> Following months of discussions with PETA, Tommy Hilfiger joins

Calvin Klein

> Ralph Lauren, Kenneth Cole, and others in banning fur from his

collections.

> " Starting immediately, the company will cease development of any

product

> containing fur, and any fur garment already in production will be

phased out

> of sales channels by the delivery of the spring 2008 collection, "

Tommy

> Hilfiger Corp. Announced in a statement. Fred Gehring, CEO of

Tommy Hilfiger

> Corp., told fashion trade publication Women's Wear Daily that

to " guarantee

> our products live up to the integrity we promise our customers, we

have

> decided to switch to a faux fur policy entirely. "

>

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