Bryan avocados for dogs is supposed to be a no no

April 9, 2007

Check this link.

Last week I read avocados were bad for dogs, I didn't

understand why, my dogs loved them too.

http://mooreshaven.com/pets/dogs/safety/badfoodslist.html

Donna

--- brbrunner <brbrunner wrote:

> Hi Tabitha,

>

> We have 8 dogs and about 10 cats. Dogs and cats (as

> well as snakes)

> are carnivorous (unlike humans). They have a

> different type of

> digestive system and different nutrient needs than

> we do. I wouldn't

> expect them to eat a vegetarian diet, just like I

> wouldn't expect a cow

> or rabbit to eat meat. My dogs do love avocados,

> though!!! :>)

>

> Bryan

> eating rice crackers and peanuts in the Miami

> airport

>

> , " Tabitha "

> <pLeOaVcEe

> wrote:

> >

> > My question is, typically how do vegetarians feel

> about owning

> animals

> > that eat meat like a snake that would have to eat

> a mouse? And my

> sweet

> > success, I went a holiday at familys who are not

> vegetarians and I

> can

> > say that I am still a vegetarian. It has been over

> a month since my

> > husband and I decided to go veg and we dont regret

> it at all, the

> site

> > of meat makes us sick to our stomachs. We did

> recieve a lot of flak

> and

> > were even called some names, on Easter, crazy I

> know and by family.

> My

> > family is very traditional, we were also told we

> werent American. lol

> > Any I hope everyone had a great day!

> >

>

Hey you ! out there on your own

sitting naked by the phone would you touch me

Hey you ! with your ear against the wall

Waiting for someone to call out would you touch me

Hey you ! would you help me to carry the stone

Open your heart, I'm coming home .

SOURCE: Hey You - Pink Floyd

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April 9, 2007

Hi Donna,

Thanks for the link, but these are rugged outdoor farm dogs, and I

wouldn't be able to stop them if I wanted too!!! They just pick them

up off the ground and eat them clean, leaving the empty shells

littering the ground. Must not be too toxic, as they are super

healthy. Now maybe for a $2000 poodle....

Bryan

, Donnalilacflower

<thelilacflower wrote:

>

> Check this link.

> Last week I read avocados were bad for dogs, I didn't

> understand why, my dogs loved them too.

>

> http://mooreshaven.com/pets/dogs/safety/badfoodslist.html

>

> Donna

April 11, 2007

It's the pit and skin that are the problem with avocados. Very healthy

foods like Avo-derm contain avocados. Also, a huge amount is different from

the bits we feed our dogs.

And dogs are not carnivorous, they are omnivorous. Cats are, indeed,

carnivorous. Dogs do very well on veg diets, while I have yet to see a

study that has shown that cats can do well on it. Every study I have seen

studied outdoor cats and in that case you are not really controlling the diet.

Veronica

At 02:13 PM 4/9/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>Check this link.

>Last week I read avocados were bad for dogs, I didn't

>understand why, my dogs loved them too.

>

><http://mooreshaven.com/pets/dogs/safety/badfoodslist.html>http://mooreshaven.c\

om/pets/dogs/safety/badfoodslist.html

>

>Donna

>--- brbrunner <<brbrunner%40>brbrunner wrote:

>

> > Hi Tabitha,

> >

> > We have 8 dogs and about 10 cats. Dogs and cats (as

> > well as snakes)

> > are carnivorous (unlike humans). They have a

> > different type of

> > digestive system and different nutrient needs than

> > we do. I wouldn't

> > expect them to eat a vegetarian diet, just like I

> > wouldn't expect a cow

> > or rabbit to eat meat. My dogs do love avocados,

> > though!!! :>)

> >

> > Bryan

> > eating rice crackers and peanuts in the Miami

> > airport

> >

> > --- In

> <%40> ,

> " Tabitha "

> > <pLeOaVcEe

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > My question is, typically how do vegetarians feel

> > about owning

> > animals

> > > that eat meat like a snake that would have to eat

> > a mouse? And my

> > sweet

> > > success, I went a holiday at familys who are not

> > vegetarians and I

> > can

> > > say that I am still a vegetarian. It has been over

> > a month since my

> > > husband and I decided to go veg and we dont regret

> > it at all, the

> > site

> > > of meat makes us sick to our stomachs. We did

> > recieve a lot of flak

> > and

> > > were even called some names, on Easter, crazy I

> > know and by family.

> > My

> > > family is very traditional, we were also told we

> > werent American. lol

> > > Any I hope everyone had a great day!

> > >

> >

>

>Hey you ! out there on your own

>sitting naked by the phone would you touch me

>Hey you ! with your ear against the wall

>Waiting for someone to call out would you touch me

>Hey you ! would you help me to carry the stone

>Open your heart, I'm coming home .

>SOURCE: Hey You - Pink Floyd

>

>________

>Looking for earth-friendly autos?

>Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center.

><http://autos./green_center/>http://autos./green_center/

>

********

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and the canine crew...

Harvey Milk's Revco Ubercute Superdog

Hellion's Dump-n-Drive Usagi Tsukino

April 11, 2007

Thanks for the information Veronica! I was a bit worried about

avocados since I feed them to our 4 Chihuahuas (small amounts and I

peel them for them) and I had a Golden retriever that used to raid

the neighbor's avocado tree regularly. All the dogs I have met seem

to really like avocados so i was surprised that it is bad for them.

I heard that the oils are good for their coats?

I cook for our poochies most of the time and try to give them a

balanced diet so I am interested in what is healthy for them. I

have heard contradictory stories about garlic. Mine seem to love

garlic, and some recipes advice adding garlic to their food. Is it

good, bad or neutral? anyone knows?

I know chocolate is bad, sugar and salt are bad too, and if they

dislike something I do not give it to them of course, but they have

quite a wide range of food they seem to really enjoy (much much more

than the kibble). For some reason all 4 have decided they do not

like bananas. They do not like hot peppers either, or too many

indian spices....Anything else that is bad and I should leave out of

their meals?

, Yummy For Dogs

<dogchef wrote:

>

> It's the pit and skin that are the problem with avocados. Very

healthy

> foods like Avo-derm contain avocados. Also, a huge amount is

different from

> the bits we feed our dogs.

>

> And dogs are not carnivorous, they are omnivorous. Cats are,

indeed,

> carnivorous. Dogs do very well on veg diets, while I have yet to

see a

> study that has shown that cats can do well on it. Every study I

have seen

> studied outdoor cats and in that case you are not really

controlling the diet.

>

> Veronica

>

> At 02:13 PM 4/9/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>

> >Check this link.

> >Last week I read avocados were bad for dogs, I didn't

> >understand why, my dogs loved them too.

> >

>

><http://mooreshaven.com/pets/dogs/safety/badfoodslist.html>http://mo

oreshaven.com/pets/dogs/safety/badfoodslist.html

> >

> >Donna

> >--- brbrunner <<brbrunner%40>brbrunner wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Tabitha,

> > >

> > > We have 8 dogs and about 10 cats. Dogs and cats (as

> > > well as snakes)

> > > are carnivorous (unlike humans). They have a

> > > different type of

> > > digestive system and different nutrient needs than

> > > we do. I wouldn't

> > > expect them to eat a vegetarian diet, just like I

> > > wouldn't expect a cow

> > > or rabbit to eat meat. My dogs do love avocados,

> > > though!!! :>)

> > >

> > > Bryan

> > > eating rice crackers and peanuts in the Miami

> > > airport

> > >

> > > --- In

> > <%

40> ,

> > " Tabitha "

> > > <pLeOaVcEe@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > My question is, typically how do vegetarians feel

> > > about owning

> > > animals

> > > > that eat meat like a snake that would have to eat

> > > a mouse? And my

> > > sweet

> > > > success, I went a holiday at familys who are not

> > > vegetarians and I

> > > can

> > > > say that I am still a vegetarian. It has been over

> > > a month since my

> > > > husband and I decided to go veg and we dont regret

> > > it at all, the

> > > site

> > > > of meat makes us sick to our stomachs. We did

> > > recieve a lot of flak

> > > and

> > > > were even called some names, on Easter, crazy I

> > > know and by family.

> > > My

> > > > family is very traditional, we were also told we

> > > werent American. lol

> > > > Any I hope everyone had a great day!

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >Hey you ! out there on your own

> >sitting naked by the phone would you touch me

> >Hey you ! with your ear against the wall

> >Waiting for someone to call out would you touch me

> >Hey you ! would you help me to carry the stone

> >Open your heart, I'm coming home .

> >SOURCE: Hey You - Pink Floyd

> >

> >________

> >Looking for earth-friendly autos?

> >Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center.

>

><http://autos./green_center/>http://autos./green_c

enter/

> >

>

> ********

> Yummy for Dogs...a fun way to treat your dog and help rescue

animals too!

> www.yummyfordogs.org

> Veronica Noechel, Trainer, Sylvie's K9 Solutions...we train to

please!

> and the canine crew...

> Harvey Milk's Revco Ubercute Superdog

> Hellion's Dump-n-Drive Usagi Tsukino

>

April 12, 2007

>

>I cook for our poochies most of the time and try to give them a

>balanced diet so I am interested in what is healthy for them. I

>have heard contradictory stories about garlic. Mine seem to love

>garlic, and some recipes advice adding garlic to their food. Is it

>good, bad or neutral? anyone knows?

Garlic is quite beneficial in sane quantities. The danger warnings are

regarding excessive consumption, such as a dog getting ahold of one of

those ropes with lots of bulbs on it and eating it. A tsp in the daily

ration for a med. sized dog should only have positive effects (though you

may want to cook the garlic or work your way up to that amount to prevent

stomach upset. It can bother some dogs just like some people get a stomach

ache from it.)

>I know chocolate is bad, sugar and salt are bad too, and if they

>dislike something I do not give it to them of course, but they have

>quite a wide range of food they seem to really enjoy (much much more

>than the kibble). For some reason all 4 have decided they do not

>like bananas. They do not like hot peppers either, or too many

>indian spices....Anything else that is bad and I should leave out of

>their meals?

Walnuts should be avoided for the same reason as chocolate: Thenobromine

(possibly sp. Sorry!) Most other nuts are a wonderful choice provided you

don't give so many it causes a weight problem. Onions, esp. in daily food

or large amounts, can cause a form of anemia, so it's best to avoid them as

much as possible. Obviously if a food is poisonous to you, you should not

feed it to your dog either. Most veggies and fruits are an excellent

addition to your dogs diet, as are whole grains. There are concerns over

raisin toxicity lately that no one can explain, but it's best to avoid them

until they do find the problem. My dogs like to play " apple ball " in the

fall, fetching apples and nibbling them. Cherries are a big hit too.

Broccoli is one dogs like a lot, along with green beans and beets. Most

dogs prefer their veggies cooked and as descendents of scavengers, cooking

mimics the rotting process and makes them easier to digest for them as

well. Oatmeal and soy yogurt are nice (all the acidophilus and none of the

problems associated with dairy!) One of my dogs simply adores blueberry soy

yogurt. It's his favorite treat (can you blame him? I love it too!) Many

dogs love carrots, peas, tomatoes, eggplant...the list goes on and on.

Black olives are usually popular too--just the canned kind, though. Most

don't like the saltiness of cured olives.

Most dogs adore beans of almost any kind. Greens you usually have to mix

with something to make them palatable. Cooked potatoes are loved by most

every dog, but sweet potatoes are the healthiest. Some canine nutritionists

believe that dogs should have sweet potatoes in their diet every day, at

least as a snack. it's easy to offer if you slice and bake a few each week

and hand out chips or wedges once a day. Also, if you're looking for an

alternative to rawhide, bull penises (yes, really, they're very popular and

usually sold under the euphamism " bully sticks " ), or other icky parts they

tend to drag all over the house exposing you and yours to all kinds of

bacteria, I highly recommend this sweet-potato based alternative:

http://www.snookdog.com/GenWebPage.ihtml?formID=1 Organic, too!

Veronica

>--- In

><%40> ,

>Yummy For Dogs

><dogchef wrote:

> >

> > It's the pit and skin that are the problem with avocados. Very

>healthy

> > foods like Avo-derm contain avocados. Also, a huge amount is

>different from

> > the bits we feed our dogs.

> >

> > And dogs are not carnivorous, they are omnivorous. Cats are,

>indeed,

> > carnivorous. Dogs do very well on veg diets, while I have yet to

>see a

> > study that has shown that cats can do well on it. Every study I

>have seen

> > studied outdoor cats and in that case you are not really

>controlling the diet.

> >

********

Yummy for Dogs...a fun way to treat your dog and help rescue animals too!

www.yummyfordogs.org

Veronica Noechel, Trainer, Sylvie's K9 Solutions...we train to please!

and the canine crew...

Harvey Milk's Revco Ubercute Superdog

Hellion's Dump-n-Drive Usagi Tsukino

April 12, 2007

This is so strange! I guess it's because some of these things I've read in

dog books (written by trainers and vets) are recommended for different

things. One natural flea cure included garlic cloves and I think jalapenos?

I know that garlic is suppose to help repel fleas on dogs. Also, another

one recommended giving your dog slices of apple to cure doggie breath. I

guess the main thing is moderation in how much you give your animal and

being sure you don't give them the pips from the apples.

On Behalf Of Yummy For Dogs

Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:24 AM

Re: Re: Bryan avocados for dogs is supposed to

be a no no